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Kild posted:I think thats Record of Agarest War 2. (Maybe 1 too?) (edit) vv Ha ha, vindication! 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I'm now really curious about Ar Tonelico. I really don't like Gust's games. I played a dozen or so hours of the first Eternal Mana game they released and got really bored at how dull and generic it was. I've seen videos of and read about a few of their other games and they all seemed equally dull as dirt. I never got their appeal. And now I hear the Ar Tonelico series is really creepy? What is going on there? Ar Tonelico is a pretty interesting JRPG with really good music, pretty good characters (one of the primary mechanics is learning new spells based on character development), and endless innuendo. Just...constant, unending innuendo. The second game brought the sexualization further with a bathing mechanic, and the third one brought it even further by having your spellcasters power up by losing clothing.
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Oct 9, 2013 05:07
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The music in Ar Tonelico justifies its existence, really. If you can't handle anime fanservice (I don't think the first two games are really that bad in this regard - that is, they're bad, but there's way worse out there in RPGland), just lsiten to the OSTs and pretend you're playing a game to go with them.
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King of Solomon posted:Ar Tonelico is a pretty interesting JRPG with really good music, pretty good characters (one of the primary mechanics is learning new spells based on character development), and endless innuendo. Just...constant, unending innuendo. You know you can't bring up the Ar Tonelico innuendo without the most hilarious example. (Nothing NWS, just a lot of innuendo.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoODv8LVib8
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Ar Tonelico is a genuinely hilarious series, just not for the reasons it thinks it is. The sheer amount of weird Japanese-ness is mindboggling, but I actually kind of like the games. The gameplay is actually not bad, so if you go into it with a mind to laugh at all the moments that make you go "did they really just do that  " you can really have fun with them.But yeah, the music is absolutely amazing and probably makes playing the games worth for that alone. Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Oct 9, 2013 10:05
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God dammit Ubisoft. The new(est) Might and Magic X video voiceover is a) poorly written (trying way too hard) and b) terribly, unconvincingly poorly voice-acted. Come on, please do better. /rant
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Ciaphas posted:I'm trying to remember which absurd, Japanese-as-All-gently caress RPG Feinne LP'd that had bathing your (female and young, of course) protagonists as a gameplay element (to gain combat skills, I think?); I want to say it was one of the Ar Tonelicos. Possibly the third one from previous posts. I thought that was Mugen Souls, you mean there's more than on game where you bath little girls ? 
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boblemoche posted:I thought that was Mugen Souls, you mean there's more than on game where you bath little girls ? No, NISA removed that from Mugen Souls. That made people really angry, starting a "boycott" of that game. They still haven't sold all of their limited editions more than a year after the game was released. Tamba fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Oct 9, 2013 10:39
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:What exactly goes on in anime games? Are they all dating sims? The funny thing is the best anime game of all, Persona 4 (Golden), is like 40% relationship management sim.
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BadAstronaut posted:God dammit Ubisoft. The new(est) Might and Magic X video voiceover is a) poorly written (trying way too hard) and b) terribly, unconvincingly poorly voice-acted. Come on, please do better. So it's just like the classics
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Oct 9, 2013 11:12
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I loved Persona 3, but this last area is horrible. It sets you up for the final confrontation with the Big Evil...and then forces you to fight through a series of really bad and boring bosses, separated by long stretches of dungeon. None of these bosses have weaknesses, so you just slowly plink away at their massive health bars while trying to find a reason to keep playing. Not good at all.
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Bholder posted:So it's just like the classics The classics didn't have lame promo videos trying to take themselves seriously. This is different.
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Wendell posted:I loved Persona 3, but this last area is horrible. It sets you up for the final confrontation with the Big Evil...and then forces you to fight through a series of really bad and boring bosses, separated by long stretches of dungeon. None of these bosses have weaknesses, so you just slowly plink away at their massive health bars while trying to find a reason to keep playing. Not good at all. -Take the persona that has Black Viper (Satan?), max out its magic with that shop in the mall, give him Victory Cry, and just spam Black Viper every turn -Get the items to block weaknesses on other party members, let them do whatever
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Nate RFB posted:I'm pretty sure my entire strategy for the endgame of P3 was:
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Paracelsus posted:For the original version, it was "get Satan and Helel (with Victory Cry) in your inventory, make Helel your starting 
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I'm looking for more RPGs that do the thing that bioware games have done really well, where you get to choose what your main character is like, and you get to interact with a bunch of fun party members as you go on a big adventure together. Anything that replicates the feeling of hanging out on the Normandy between missions in Mass Effect would be great, where I have plenty of time to chat to my party and get to know them. I don't think I would call any bioware game I've played a great game, but they all do a really good job of immersing me and making me really get into this big dumb adventure I'm being sent on, and I'd like to play more RPGs that manage the same thing. Also, I was considering buying Shadowrun Returns. Has anyone played it? Is it worth buying?
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Red Bones posted:I'm looking for more RPGs that do the thing that bioware games have done really well, where you get to choose what your main character is like, and you get to interact with a bunch of fun party members as you go on a big adventure together. Anything that replicates the feeling of hanging out on the Normandy between missions in Mass Effect would be great, where I have plenty of time to chat to my party and get to know them. I don't think I would call any bioware game I've played a great game, but they all do a really good job of immersing me and making me really get into this big dumb adventure I'm being sent on, and I'd like to play more RPGs that manage the same thing. Planescape: Torment.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Planescape: Torment. That love scene with Morte the skull sure was eyepopping. 
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I just picked up Drakensang 2 for cheap recently, but now I honestly wish I hadn't. That game is seriously awful. Everything is janky as gently caress, there is backtracking out of the rear end, the graphics look like a reskin of Neverwinter Nights 2, convenience options like item/hotspot highlighting are completely absent and the controls simply don't respond half of the time. Don't bother with this.
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Cardiovorax posted:I just picked up Drakensang 2 for cheap recently, but now I honestly wish I hadn't. That game is seriously awful. Everything is janky as gently caress, there is backtracking out of the rear end, the graphics look like a reskin of Neverwinter Nights 2, convenience options like item/hotspot highlighting are completely absent and the controls simply don't respond half of the time. Don't bother with this. I haven't played too much of the game, but I'm going to have to disagree with you. It's not amazing in terms of graphics, but I never thought it was bad. It's around Morrowind and Oblivion levels. Your problem with it, from what I understand of your post, seems to stem from that fact that it was a ~mostly~ faithful reproduction of a PnP system, rather than an easier to use and somewhat more automated designed for computer games system. And that items don't highlight. I can't respond to the control issues, save that I didn't have any particular issues myself. That doesn't discount the issues you may have had. I did find that some response times were slower, so I slowed down button pressing and reduced my expectation for a Street Fighter 4-esque control response time. Drifter fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Oct 9, 2013 20:13
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Drakensang 2's graphics are great, it's fuckin' gorgeous!
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Red Bones posted:I'm looking for more RPGs that do the thing that bioware games have done really well, where you get to choose what your main character is like, and you get to interact with a bunch of fun party members as you go on a big adventure together. Anything that replicates the feeling of hanging out on the Normandy between missions in Mass Effect would be great, where I have plenty of time to chat to my party and get to know them. I don't think I would call any bioware game I've played a great game, but they all do a really good job of immersing me and making me really get into this big dumb adventure I'm being sent on, and I'd like to play more RPGs that manage the same thing. It's all worth it when you get to the second act and have to play medieval Phoenix Wright, though.
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Cardiovorax posted:Ar Tonelico is a genuinely hilarious series, just not for the reasons it thinks it is. The sheer amount of weird Japanese-ness is mindboggling, but I actually kind of like the games. The gameplay is actually not bad, so if you go into it with a mind to laugh at all the moments that make you go "did they really just do that And my god the thing was like terminally Anime. At least I got it for free.
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Drifter posted:Your problem with it, from what I understand of your post, seems to stem from that fact that it was a ~mostly~ faithful reproduction of a PnP system, rather than an easier to use and somewhat more automated designed for computer games system. And that items don't highlight. Drifter posted:I can't respond to the control issues, save that I didn't have any particular issues myself. That doesn't discount the issues you may have had. I did find that some response times were slower, so I slowed down button pressing and reduced my expectation for a Street Fighter 4-esque control response time.
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Red Bones posted:Also, I was considering buying Shadowrun Returns. Has anyone played it? Is it worth buying?
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I found out about Darkest Dungeons today and wasn't sure where to post about it. I just wanted to say that, if they can pull off "Dark Souls meets X-Com on Ironman mode," it will probably be one of my favorite games ever. I want to believe that a isometric fantasy themed X-Com with a Dark Souls aesthetic and what is essentially a very sophisticated alternative to the "panic" system with managing a guild of increasingly dysfunctional adventurers instead of a geosphere would be fantastic. It's a small team that will most likely be funding with kickstarter, so I'm keeping my expectations in check, but I just love the concept so much. 
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Lotish posted:I found out about Darkest Dungeons today and wasn't sure where to post about it. I just wanted to say that, if they can pull off "Dark Souls meets X-Com on Ironman mode," it will probably be one of my favorite games ever. Haha, wow, that is literally the Elite Knight armor almost exactly. So close I wonder if that's some kind of copyright violation. edit: It says it's side scrolling, which seems odd and doesn't really mesh with their other game concepts all that well. Can there really be a turn based squad tactics game with a side scrolling perspective? Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 11:00
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Haha, wow, that is literally the Elite Knight armor almost exactly. Yes they both do look so completely like generic fantasy knight armor.
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I don't really know about that side-scrolling, either. That doesn't seem at all suited to a squad-based tactics game. Plus a lot of the stuff the game site describes sounds more gimmicky and annoying than fun. Sending your characters on vacation constantly because they suddenly have a phobia of the undead and stuff, I don't know about that sort of thing.
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Endorph posted:The music in Ar Tonelico justifies its existence, really. Yeah, I've never played a single one of those nor intend to, so as far as I'm concerned the series might as well be solely a vehicle for decent soundtracks. It's pretty good at being that! Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Haha, wow, that is literally the Elite Knight armor almost exactly. So close I wonder if that's some kind of copyright violation.   The general visor design, maybe, but not really past that.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how they are going to do the side-scrolling tactics either. I also really like that armor design; it's reminiscent of the elite knight armor without being exact. There's less metal, no pauldron, and the faceguard is flatter with round holes. It's different enough that I don't think they straight copied it, but inspiration is clear, and they're not shy about it. But seriously, I think a dark fantasy X-com would be pretty baller. If these guys are doing a side-scroller, more power to them, but I really want an isometric murder/panic fest. This is one of those things I didn't know I needed until someone put the names "Dark Souls" and "X-com" together in a sentence, but drat.
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01011001 posted:Yeah, I've never played a single one of those nor intend to, so as far as I'm concerned the series might as well be solely a vehicle for decent soundtracks. It's pretty good at being that! Seriously. Never consider the games again and just get hold of the OSTs. They're filled with things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CQL1WUR6pk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWzpUBTp7O8
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Welp, I'm replaying Dragon Warrior 7 and doing it with monster classes only this time. I guess that doesn't really count as a challenge, what with the Dharma casino having the makings for Golem and thus the almighty Rock Throw skill super early.
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Has anyone played Agarest Generations? it just came out on steam last week but I've heard nothing about it.
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Red Bones posted:I'm looking for more RPGs that do the thing that bioware games have done really well, where you get to choose what your main character is like, and you get to interact with a bunch of fun party members as you go on a big adventure together. Anything that replicates the feeling of hanging out on the Normandy between missions in Mass Effect would be great, where I have plenty of time to chat to my party and get to know them. I don't think I would call any bioware game I've played a great game, but they all do a really good job of immersing me and making me really get into this big dumb adventure I'm being sent on, and I'd like to play more RPGs that manage the same thing. Persona 4 The Golden if you have a Vita.
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CottonWolf posted:just get hold of the OSTs. They're filled with things like this: Even some of the non-Hymmnos tracks are quite excellent, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a37C4S2oNEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiP27_rHp9g ...That said, if you can get past the Japan in the games, the first two Ar tonelicos are actually fairly solid JRPGs in their own right. And AT1 still has the best crafting system.
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O__O posted:Has anyone played Agarest Generations? it just came out on steam last week but I've heard nothing about it. The combat requires an extremely annoying amount of clicks, and is not very engaging. The plot is the usual "anime as gently caress" comment, which I can usually look past, but god drat is that gameplay annoying.
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The gameplay is just outright tedious. Loads of repetitive battles that take waaaay too long to finish. The strategy side of it isn't all that deep or interesting, so you're mostly just going through the motions of battles that are boring as hell for like 5-10 minutes per battle. The game will just give you a line of identical battles to go through before you get to the next asinine and generic plot point. Somewhere along the line there's an actual dating sim aspect to it where you romance one of your female party members and it determines the stats and poo poo of the next generation. It's really creepy about it and you have to really enjoy actual dating sims to get anything out of that (it's a lot more creepy and anime than Persona 3/4, for example). It's a really bad game overall, do not get.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:...That said, if you can get past the Japan in the games, the first two Ar tonelicos are actually fairly solid JRPGs in their own right. And AT1 still has the best crafting system. Despite how good the crafting system in the AT games is (they only just got that item tree thing in Atelier Meruru, for gently caress's sake), I maintain the best part of the game comes once you get into the ludicrously broken stuff like +500% all-elemental damage or adding x100 damage and speed multipliers onto yourself in exchange for pretty much anything ohkoing you. The sheer number of combinations you have is really fun to play with. I just wish there was an optional superboss that really required you to make use of all those broken and ludicrous customization options the game gave you.
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