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Radish posted:A wine barrel?? Ooh la la that's some fancy poo poo for someone living off my tax dollars. They should be in a Bud Lite box just big enough so we don't have to see their lower class genitalia. Ooh, look at at the Libtard who's fine with just letting the poor have genitalia. AT MY EXPENSE!
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greatn posted:How can those people enjoy biking and running, and hanging around with their bros with cool backpacks in the middle of all that tyranny? Speaking of running and tyranny, what about the trains? Will they run on time?
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Dirt posted:I got this tonight on facebook: The huge push to make the "they're taking away are monuments!  " subject anything even resembling a big deal shows an incredible desperation from the right to divert the argument away from the fact that Republicans in Congress outright shut down the government. It's absolutely shameful pandering to the one demographic (retirees) that the GOP hasn't already scared away.
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Oct 10, 2013 03:31
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The worst part is that the memorial is open for first amendment activities; so they'll show up, make a stink about being denied access, then "stand up to tyranny" and stroll into the memorial declaring victory.
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Oct 10, 2013 04:15
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I wish people cared as much about veterans benefits as they did about a monument. Or, I wish there was more media coverage about cuts that actually impact people's day to day lives. nyquil hangover fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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Oct 10, 2013 04:41
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The Macaroni posted:Closest Kinko's/office-type store is 5 miles on foot from my brother-in-law. He could conceivably walk to the train station and go into the city to find one there, which 1) puts him out $10 for the round trip and 2) $2 per fax page, as others have pointed out. A lot of federal jobs require faxed applications. I use Greenfax for this poo poo. 25 bucks, like 5 years ago, a few cents a page. It'll probably last another 5 years. I prepare my document in whatever digital format it will accept that works best in the circumstances, email it to this service with my password as the subject and FAXNUMBER@greenfax.com as the recipient, and it's done. There are other services, but AFAIK there are no free ones that aren't poo poo and will definitely work with the federal government's automated fax systems. (Yes, it's one computer talking to another...via fax)
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Oct 10, 2013 04:50
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nyquil hangover posted:I wish people cared as much about veterans benefits as they did about a loving monument. Well, poo poo, what do you think the monument is for? We put up a monument so we don't have to deal with anything else  
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Speaking of stupid poo poo from Facebook, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDVy4Pk61o A video by a subsidiary of the Leadership Institute (same shining beacon that produced James O'Keefe) posted the same day as a CU Boulder College Republicans meeting. Sounds totally legit and entirely unbiased.
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Oct 10, 2013 05:44
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Apparently this is going around: Literally oppositeofreality.jpg to justify child abuse. Crime rates have been dropping for more than 20 years. I mean, it wouldn't prove anything if they were still going up but at least then the conclusion that spanking reduces crime would at least make some kind of sense, wrong as it is. Thankfully, he has no kids. Double-thankfully, the person who liked my graph is his wife 
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Oct 10, 2013 05:57
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My brother posted this, fortunately with some criticism of the subtle possibly-racist imagery. edit: Just noticed that's 4chan.
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redstormpopcorn posted:Speaking of stupid poo poo from Facebook, This is literally "I wonder what privileged white kids think", the video. I was legitimately freaked out by the lack of minority students.
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Oct 10, 2013 06:51
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Yes, a Colorado school in the middle of a suburban hellhole is clearly the most unbiased sample to draw political opinions from.
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Oct 10, 2013 08:48
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miscellaneous14 posted:Yes, a Colorado school in the middle of a suburban hellhole is clearly the most unbiased sample to draw political opinions from. Boulder is the most liberal town in Colorado, by a large, large margin.
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Grem posted:Boulder is the most liberal town in Colorado, by a large, large margin.
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:http://money.msn.com/now/post--how-atandt-beats-the-nsa-at-its-own-game No, don't you get it? Without the oppressive government and DEA telling me what free people can and cannot put in their own bodies, this wouldn't be necessary, and would never happen! Plus if the FCC weren't regulating the airwaves, there would be tons of other providers to choose from. Seriously, I'd expect to see one or both of those responses coming from a libertarian.
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Oct 10, 2013 14:07
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VideoTapir posted:My brother posted this, fortunately with some criticism of the subtle possibly-racist imagery. Let's compare this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States with this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting
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Oct 10, 2013 14:30
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Boy, gun nuts sure love that mythical "Gun Free Zone" sign, don't they? They might as well build them from straw.
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Oct 10, 2013 14:55
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VideoTapir posted:My brother posted this, fortunately with some criticism of the subtle possibly-racist imagery. Sure, it's 4chan, but it's surprising how many people approve of the idea of children bringing assault rifles to school.
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Oct 10, 2013 17:08
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What's the name of that plugin that anonymizes facebook with the funny pun names?
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aBagorn posted:What's the name of that plugin that anonymizes facebook with the funny pun names? SocialFixer.
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I'm Otto Matic. Did I do my car analogy right? 
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Tibeerius posted:Boy, gun nuts sure love that mythical "Gun Free Zone" sign, don't they? They might as well build them from straw.
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Interlude posted:Are you saying those signs don't exist? They're all over the schools here in NY, along with drug-free and alcohol-free signs. Yes that's exactly what he's saying. The use of those signs in lovely political cartoons is all about showing their existance and not a metaphor for anything else.
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Nevvy Z posted:Yes that's exactly what he's saying. The use of those signs in lovely political cartoons is all about showing their existance and not a metaphor for anything else. I'm not sure what they'd be a metaphor for, other than the rule they explicitly state.
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Nevvy Z posted:Yes that's exactly what he's saying. The use of those signs in lovely political cartoons is all about showing their existance and not a metaphor for anything else.
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Oct 10, 2013 19:12
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aBagorn posted:I'm Otto Matic. I'm a bit confused, honestly. But the best point to make is that in a car sale negotiation, both sides have something to offer. I have money. The salesman has a car. We work something out. But we don't sit down to negotiate without some kind of framing the deal. It would be quite disingenuous for me to take a tour around the lot, only to sit down with the salesman and inform him that I have no money, no credit, and absolutely nothing to offer him. The Republicans have offered nothing. They have even been asked this question, and ducked it. The question remains: It is clear what the Republicans want, but what are they offering in return?
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VideoTapir posted:My brother posted this, fortunately with some criticism of the subtle possibly-racist imagery. It's an edit of the "Moms Demand Action" campaign. The kid on the left is holding a Kinder Egg.
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So this is making the rounds: My response: Because the maximum taxable earnings for Social Security for 2013 is set at $113,700. Rich people don't pay into it so it's running out of money.
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Because hateful old cretins like you would prefer it if welfare ran out of money, so they can't use it to scare you.
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Also isn't welfare capped at 5 years over a citizen's lifetime?
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Also isn't welfare capped at 5 years over a citizen's lifetime?
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Strudel Man posted:"Welfare" is not a specific program. There are a large number of different benefits that qualify as "welfare." Right but I'm talking cash aid, which is what right-wingers typically decry as "welfare".
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Also isn't welfare capped at 5 years over a citizen's lifetime? TANF is capped at 60 months, yeah.
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BTW my post was supposed to be a thing you could say to someone that says "welfare isn't running out of money, I wonder why that is?" Well it's because the part that these dummies think drags down the economy and going on forever (sitting on your rear end getting "free" government money) doesn't actually do that. Most right-wingers who bitch about welfare, in my experience, have no idea it was reformed. You're not going to change their opinion overnight but you can at least inject some reality into the argument.
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Armyman25 posted:So this is making the rounds: "Because scared old people will vote for you and against your opponent if you tell them that. Bonus points if you can use your faux concern about Social Security to make said old people blame welfare recipients as the cause of the 'problem'."
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Armyman25 posted:So this is making the rounds: Maybe this could be a good starting place for critical thinking. You are always hearing about Social Security running out of money because someone is always telling you that it's running out of money. Does that mean it's actually happening? It depends on if the person telling you things is telling the truth. My personal understanding of the situation is that there are some long term problems with Social Security that could be fixed, but every solution is politically difficult. But that's a discussion for another time. You never hear about Welfare running out of money because no one ever tells you that it's running out of money. Does that mean it's not really running out of money? Maybe, you don't know. You never hear about my cousin's ant farm. Does that mean it's not real? How could we find out more about what's really going on with welfare? We'd probably have to get more specific than the term 'welfare' because Social Security and Medicaid are both forms of welfare. A good place to start would be to look at funding for programs like WIC, SNAP (Food Stamps), TANF (An aid program for families with children, 60 months lifetime maximum), and VHA (Veterans Health Administration). that's not a full list but it's a start. How are these programs doing? Are they being funded well or are they seeing huge cuts?
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I was trying to find the numbers on the stimulative multiplier on food stamps, and one of the search results was this:quote:http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2012/07/exposing-food-stamp-stimuls-fallacy.html I don't understand how somebody can be an economics professor and have such a dumbshit view of how the world works.
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Bubbacub posted:I was trying to find the numbers on the stimulative multiplier on food stamps, and one of the search results was this: Having a dumbshit view of how the world works correlates quite well with being a good economics professor, because you never risk putting any thought into whether or not your simplifying assumptions are valid. If you pretend to justify more simplifications, you can write more papers.
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Bubbacub posted:I was trying to find the numbers on the stimulative multiplier on food stamps, and one of the search results was this: Just desperate fumbling for a argument, that's all this is. It doesn't even hold up under its own weight.
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Bubbacub posted:I was trying to find the numbers on the stimulative multiplier on food stamps, and one of the search results was this: What's a good counter-argument for this, not this analogy specifically, but this frequent application (mis-application?) of the broken window theory.
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