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Sade posted:Aight, fair enough. I can't imagine they wouldn't give you a way to re-acquire mega stones though. You mean like legendaries?  They already do that kinda stuff.Bland posted:Man the game isn't even officially released yet and I've already caught a shiny, gold horns Skiddo is pretty balling. What a shame I'll never use him though. Just find a goon that has a shiny you do want and trade. The trade system is finally painless this gen.
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jymbojones posted:Goddamnit. I really want a physical copy, but nowhere near me is doing a midnight release. I have the space for the digital DL, but something about that just feels "wrong", I guess. I don't know what to do, ugh. I'm going for Y as physical and X as digital download. Gonna play a bit of X tonight because I am a child on xmas eve and literally can't wait and play Y properly when I get it tomorrow. I figure if I do that then I can catch 'em all too! 
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Stalgren posted:YES It took them a decade to finally remember what Yellow did right and they immediately dropped the ball again. It's like they don't even realize that any new features they add will always be inferior to the best feature ever.
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Oct 11, 2013 21:41
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The logistics of having your Pokemon follow you around in a 3D game must be staggering. I didn't expect them to have that working right away.
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Do you want to trade your Lugia for my level 3 Bunnelby? I see gts hasn't changed much.
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Dastardly posted:Do you want to trade your Lugia for my level 3 Bunnelby? I see gts hasn't changed much. You should see the trade bulletin boards in TCGO. "Two common Magmars for your Mewtwo EX." Or my favorite, "my non-foil trainer for your foil trainer." They're the same trainer card.
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Slate Action posted:The logistics of having your Pokemon follow you around in a 3D game must be staggering. I didn't expect them to have that working right away. That doesn't excuse Gen 5. 
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Der Metzgermeister posted:That doesn't excuse Gen 5. Weren't HG/SS and B/W developed nearly simultaneously by separate teams?
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Der Metzgermeister posted:That doesn't excuse Gen 5. Hey there was that one house that let you run around with a Meinfoo behind you!
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Der Metzgermeister posted:That doesn't excuse Gen 5. The game that made following Pokemon was developed at the same time as Gen V. The feature was never intended beyond being a feature in the remake.
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Slate Action posted:The logistics of having your Pokemon follow you around in a 3D game must be staggering. I didn't expect them to have that working right away. On the other hand, this would be the easiest Gen to do it. They already have the models. Just use them in the overworld. I know it's not as simple as that, but I could see either the third game or Gen 7 having it.
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I've heard rumours that the shiny rate has dropped this gen. Does anyone know if this is true? Or is there really no way of telling yet? Edit: I meant raised, I am just terrible at Maths. No More Toast fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Slate Action posted:Weren't HG/SS and B/W developed nearly simultaneously by separate teams? It was done in that one park in DPP, though. They put it in the remakes because of popular demand, so it baffles me that it wasn't on the feature list for Gen 5. Dehry posted:The game that made following Pokemon was developed at the same time as Gen V. The feature was never intended beyond being a feature in the remake. Opposing Farce got this one right: Opposing Farce posted:It took them a decade to finally remember what Yellow did right and they immediately dropped the ball again. It's like they don't even realize that any new features they add will always be inferior to the best feature ever.
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No More Toast posted:I've heard rumours that the shiny rate has dropped this gen. Does anyone know if this is true? Or is there really no way of telling yet? It's already 1 in 8192, so Nintendo lowering the rate would be one of the biggest rear end in a top hat moves imaginable.
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No More Toast posted:I've heard rumours that the shiny rate has dropped this gen. Does anyone know if this is true? Or is there really no way of telling yet? The shiny rate was already so staggeringly low that there's no way to actually be able to tell this without having cracked the game open and looked at the numbers.
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Liar Lyre posted:On the other hand, this would be the easiest Gen to do it. They already have the models. Just use them in the overworld. I know it's not as simple as that, but I could see either the third game or Gen 7 having it. The sprites used to follow you around were different from the sprites used in battle. If the same goes for models, I think that would have delayed the game by at least a month. Riding around pokemon are sized to be ridden, but having them follow you everywhere, in 3d would almost definitely lead to crazy clipping shenanigans.
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No More Toast posted:I've heard rumours that the shiny rate has dropped this gen. Does anyone know if this is true? Or is there really no way of telling yet? That would be hillariously overkill.
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So are the new games available for download via Nintendo E-shop? If not, when can I expect them to be ready for download? I'm in MST if that matters.
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Unbound posted:So are the new games available for download via Nintendo E-shop? If not, when can I expect them to be ready for download? I'm in the MST Timeszone if that matters. Midnight EST, so 10pm for you? I am bad at timezones.
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I asked this earlier, but it was lost in the hubbub over Alakazam. If I'm able to connect to the 3DS e-shop at home, will I be able to use the GTS and such without problems in X and Y?
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^^^^^ Dumb question but did you set up your 3DS's wifi settings for DS emulation? it's something like Nintendo DS connections in the internet settings. Solus posted:Oh I'm on the first route, just got my pokeon. Oh someone wants to internet battle me. Sure. Let's try that. He has a full team of evolved pokemon. gently caress you that guy Wait, you can get random internet challenges just by walking around? DrManiac fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Slate Action posted:The logistics of having your Pokemon follow you around in a 3D game must be staggering. I didn't expect them to have that working right away. 
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jymbojones posted:I have a set of twin cousins that just turned 11 like 2 weeks ago. They are hype as poo poo about it and when I saw them last month they talked to me about "advanced" pokemon stuff for like 3 hours. I love those little shits. For some perspective, I'm 29 (30 soon Hah, I know the feeling. My 8 year old nephew talks my ear off for hours every time we see each other. (And 30 isn't that bad. I thought something was going to change in some way, but nah, just finished it to see 31.) 
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Slate Action posted:The logistics of having your Pokemon follow you around in a 3D game must be staggering. I didn't expect them to have that working right away. I'm not seeing what's so staggering about it. I'm a game dev and I'm usually against armchair programming analysis, but what exactly about this seems so complicated? Just having a model follow behind you is pretty simple, ESPECIALLY since they decided to force a tile system instead of going full 3D movement. The only concern I can come up with that would be complicated would be making sure the pokemon doens't get in your way and block you from going somewhere. But they could always just have the pokemon like leapfrog over and behind you if you try to walk past them, and that's the easiest solution. There's better solutions that would take more work, but no more than any other game feature, and less than most. I suppose for some pokemon they would have to make a full walk cycle, because even though they move in battles, they don't move continuously, just kinda stagger around. But some pokemon would just levitate anyways, and some of them you could just loop some keyframes from their battle animations... well I guess that might not look well. I guess the real problem is just holy poo poo there's so many pokemon now I'm honestly surprised they didn't use the 3D jump as an excuse to reboot the series and pokemon count. BearDrivingTruck posted:I asked this earlier, but it was lost in the hubbub over Alakazam. Should be fine, yeah. 3DS games have more wifi support than DS games did. If you can use it for e-shop, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for games. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Zaphod42 posted:The only concern I can come up with that would be complicated would be making sure the pokemon doens't get in your way and block you from going somewhere. But they could always just have the pokemon like leapfrog over and behind you if you try to walk past them, and that's the easiest solution. There's better solutions that would take more work, but no more than any other game feature, and less than most. Clipping. Some Pokemon are very large.
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Zaphod42 posted:Should be fine, yeah. 3DS games have more wifi support than DS games did. If you can use it for e-shop, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work for games. Jesus, people won't shut up about there being 'only' 70 new Pokemon. Can you imagine what they'd do with that?
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LAY-ZX posted:Clipping. Some Pokemon are very large. Meh, in the games previously where they followed you around, they didn't go for strict realism in size. All pokemon just took up a single tile. I don't think that'd be so bad to have a snorlax just slightly scaled to fit on a tile, but maybe it wouldn't look right, IDK.  That's a fair concern. ImpAtom posted:Jesus, people won't shut up about there being 'only' 70 new Pokemon. Can you imagine what they'd do with that? Yeah, I imagine that's why they put off going 3D for so long. They decided if anybody's favorite species isn't in there then they'll be upset (fair enough), so going 3D meant doing hundreds of 3D models and animations. But its not like you can catch all the pokemon in the wild anyways, so that seems a little silly to me. Lots of pokemon won't appear in X or Y at all until they add the pokemon bank early next year. Similarly they could just patch in the other pokemon after rebooting it, or start with a 3D version of Red/Blue only, and slowly introduce the generations in waves. Whatever, they did it this way, and it works. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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DrManiac posted:^^^^^ I can connect to the e-store just fine, but it won't connect as a DS. Is this going to be a problem? 
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UmbreonMessiah posted:So has anyone found the Umbreonite yet? I want my dream to come true There's no way they would give any of the evee evolutions a mega form without doing the same for all the others. I base this on nothing but my own gut feeling.
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Slate Action posted:It's already 1 in 8192, so Nintendo lowering the rate would be one of the biggest rear end in a top hat moves imaginable. DheeradjS posted:That would be hillariously overkill. LAY-ZX posted:The shiny rate was already so staggeringly low that there's no way to actually be able to tell this without having cracked the game open and looked at the numbers. I'm an idiot.  My thought was that if it went from 1/8192 to 1/4000 (as an example) the number would be going down, right? Yeah, I meant that shiny pokemon would be more common. I guess I'll just have to wait and see; it does sound like a rumour that might pop up every generation. Zaphod42 posted:Meh, in the games previously where they followed you around, they didn't go for strict realism in size. All pokemon just took up a single tile. I don't think that'd be so bad to have a snorlax just slightly scaled to fit on a tile, but maybe it wouldn't look right, IDK. To be honest I wouldn't mind if only certain pokemon were allowed to follow you, maybe only those of a certain size. I'd be happy if they just did the starters following you, but that might be because I played the hell out of Yellow when I was a kid.
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I can connect to the e-store just fine, but it won't connect as a DS. Is this going to be a problem? No, you're fine. 3DS games support the wifi networks that your 3DS e-shop does, but DS does not.
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BearDrivingTruck posted:I can connect to the e-store just fine, but it won't connect as a DS. Is this going to be a problem? Only certain DS games (Black and White specifically) let you use WPA2 encryption. anything earlier than that (Gen 4) won't be able to connect unless you're using WEP on your router. Regardless, if you can connect to the eshop you shouldn't have any problems with the internet stuff in X/Y
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