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Taffer posted:Jack's sarcasm was actually funny, though You shut your face!
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Alrighty. You are my new favorite poster in this thread. 
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Oct 13, 2013 01:49
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Feel free to request any other stuff from SG1 or ATL, I like to gif.
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Oct 13, 2013 01:56
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Taffer posted:Jack's sarcasm was actually funny, though This so much. RDA had such great delivery.
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Oct 13, 2013 02:36
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Flanagan seemed more of the Ben Browder type than the RDA type.
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Rhyno posted:Especially in the Tao of Rodney. That episode really sells their friendship as genuine. I thought The Shrine was much better portraying their friendship.
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Shux posted:This so much. RDA had such great delivery. 
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Feel free to request any other stuff from SG1 or ATL, I like to gif. In Episode 4.20 (  ) there's a badass scene where an alterneate reality Carter is doing guerrilla style drive-bys on Wraith ships. I remember one specific scene where she warps in, blows up an enemy ship, does a loop and destroys another.Any chance of getting a gif of that?
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Oct 13, 2013 06:03
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Feel free to request any other stuff from SG1 or ATL, I like to gif. The SG1 episode with a bunch of alternate reality SG1 teams: Teal'c showing up with a car-battery-powered staff weapon please. 
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Oct 13, 2013 06:46
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WarLocke posted:The SG1 episode with a bunch of alternate reality SG1 teams: Teal'c showing up with a car-battery-powered staff weapon please. ...I don't remember this at all. I would love to see that.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:In Episode 4.20 ( Yes.   WarLocke posted:The SG1 episode with a bunch of alternate reality SG1 teams: Teal'c showing up with a car-battery-powered staff weapon please. Is this what you meant, Teal'c with the death glider staff weapon? 
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Oct 13, 2013 14:06
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Is this what you meant, Teal'c with the death glider staff weapon? I must have been misremembering that episode, then. That's still a pretty awesome little scene though. "gently caress you, just throw a shoulder strap on that vehicle mounted weapon and I'll hump it."
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Oct 13, 2013 16:09
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WarLocke posted:I must have been misremembering that episode, then. That's still a pretty awesome little scene though. "gently caress you, just throw a shoulder strap on that vehicle mounted weapon and I'll hump it." It's the episode where Teal'c is stuck in the Stargate, because I remember him purposely starting down the crashing Hatak and blasting it out of the sky from the ground. 48 Hours I think, EDIT: There's actually a few episodes where Teal'c is carrying the big tripod mounted staff weapon and just carrying it about his waist. My bet is Chris Judge (rightfully) complained.
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Oct 13, 2013 20:03
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No, I think I found the episode I'm thinking of, it's "Ripple Effect" from season 9. http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s9/913.shtml
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Oct 13, 2013 20:24
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WarLocke posted:No, I think I found the episode I'm thinking of, it's "Ripple Effect" from season 9. Yeah that's the episode I made my gif from, but couldn't find what you described, and don't remember anything like that either. GuardianOfAsgaard fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Oct 13, 2013 |
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Rhyno posted:Daniel Jackson has killed hundreds of Jaffa with a gun and he's not even U.S. military. I could have sworn somewhere in SG-1, one of the alien characters (might have been a Tok'ra or Baal) mentioned that the Tau'ri were fierce because they'd been fighting among themselves on a more or less equal playing field for a solid 2500 years without alien technical intervention. It was one of the things that helped level the playing field when it came to fighting the Jaffa and Goa'uld, which had better tech in many places, but lacked the caliber of enemy to fight that Earthborn humans had, since even wars between system lords were more colorful displays of power than anything else. Weapons of fear vs. weapons of war and all that. 
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Oct 13, 2013 23:28
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So basically, we won because at our core Humans are jerks. I'm okay with it.
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Oct 13, 2013 23:31
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   Bonus snarky Daniel. 
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Yeah that's the episode I made my gif from, but couldn't find what you described, and don't remember anything like that either. As JetsGuy said, it's 48 Hours. It starts with Teal'c using that big fuckoff weapon to blast Tanith out the sky and the ship he's in crashes into the gate as Teal'c runs through.
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cochise posted:As JetsGuy said, it's 48 Hours. It starts with Teal'c using that big fuckoff weapon to blast Tanith out the sky and the ship he's in crashes into the gate as Teal'c runs through. Yeah I'm familiar with the episode, but I don't see what that has to with what WarLocke described: WarLocke posted:The SG1 episode with a bunch of alternate reality SG1 teams: Teal'c showing up with a car-battery-powered staff weapon please.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Yeah I'm familiar with the episode, but I don't see what that has to with what WarLocke described: I don't remember Ripple Effect that well, and it's possible that one of the Teal'cs had the fuckoff tripod mounted staff weapon in that episode. I'm just saying that the better episodes to get of Teal'c carrying and firing it are earlier on, and I specifically remember it in 48 hours.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:25
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Here's a quick screen cap from the first minute of 48 Hours.
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Oct 14, 2013 21:28
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I keep forgetting how much of a incredibly dangerous badass Ronon is. He really can back up any threat he makes on that show.
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vandelay industries posted:I keep forgetting how much of a incredibly dangerous badass Ronon is. He really can back up any threat he makes on that show. I just love how he's so chilled out all the time, until a wraith (or wraith-worshipping-traitor-satedan) shows up and he just goes completely berserk.
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Warmachine posted:I could have sworn somewhere in SG-1, one of the alien characters (might have been a Tok'ra or Baal) mentioned that the Tau'ri were fierce because they'd been fighting among themselves on a more or less equal playing field for a solid 2500 years without alien technical intervention. It was one of the things that helped level the playing field when it came to fighting the Jaffa and Goa'uld, which had better tech in many places, but lacked the caliber of enemy to fight that Earthborn humans had, since even wars between system lords were more colorful displays of power than anything else. Throughout the show, I found that Jaffa (and I guess the goa'uld) are really, really lovely at warfare and seem to enjoy running into bullets in open fields and around corners without firing their staff weapons. I guess that touches on your point that once their weapons of fear stop working (whether its physical intimidation or just a big rear end gun on a spaceship), they're hosed because they are seriously incompetent warriors (strategically-wise). The Ta'ri are military geniuses compared to them, which is why they won the war in the end. I guess they are good at hand-to-hand combat... which is kinda useless in this type of war though. vandelay industries fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Oct 14, 2013 |
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:I just love how he's so chilled out all the time, until a wraith (or wraith-worshipping-traitor-satedan) shows up and he just goes completely berserk. He REALLY hates those guys.
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vandelay industries posted:He REALLY hates those guys. Well to be honest they're really bad guys, so...
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vandelay industries posted:Throughout the show, I found that Jaffa (and I guess the goa'uld) are really, really lovely at warfare and seem to enjoy running into bullets in open fields and around corners without firing their staff weapons. I guess that touches on your point that once their weapons of fear stop working (whether its physical intimidation or just a big rear end gun on a spaceship), they're hosed because they are seriously incompetent warriors (strategically-wise). The Ta'ri are military geniuses compared to them, which is why they won the war in the end. The Jaffa have only been fighting other Jaffa for thousands of years. As far as we know they haven't met an opponent anywhere near their level of sophistication (outside of races the Goa'uld won't fight like the Tollan (  ) or Asgard) in hundreds of years. Their tactics probably make sense if they're fighting other people with staff weapons that have low rate of fire and slow projectiles as opposed to high rate of fire and fast projectile rifles.
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Those 2 episodes are great.
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WarLocke posted:Well to be honest they're really bad guys, so... Yes lol I know that; thought that was a give in. Boxturret posted:Those 2 episodes are great. I was rooting for that doctor big time in both those eps, which were hilarious and awesome. Too bad he never got properly thanked by Carter! I also found that it kinda made SG1 seem like jerks (especially in the 2nd one... but I can see where they were coming from) vandelay industries fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 15, 2013 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:The Jaffa have only been fighting other Jaffa for thousands of years. As far as we know they haven't met an opponent anywhere near their level of sophistication (outside of races the Goa'uld won't fight like the Tollan ( Oh yeah I totally agree with that, though you would think they would adapt to Earth's type of warfare after 10 years of intense battles with them.
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vandelay industries posted:I keep forgetting how much of a incredibly dangerous badass Ronon is. He really can back up any threat he makes on that show. I forgot how fairly formidable Satedan weaponry is against the Wraith, in ground warfare it would seem like a fair fight. if you combined that with the resources of the Genii and the few meager ships of those "No Homeworld We only live on Ships" society I think they could have stood a decent chance against the Wraith on all fronts without any help from Earth. Luigi Thirty posted:The Jaffa have only been fighting other Jaffa for thousands of years. As far as we know they haven't met an opponent anywhere near their level of sophistication (outside of races the Goa'uld won't fight like the Tollan ( That's exactly it, the most advanced enemy any Jaffa has fought is basically themselves, and they are all raised in societies literally geared only towards worshiping and dying for their respective Gods, no intelligent dissidenting thought, no encouragement to think outside the box, no way to innovate military strategy or technology. All they have is their stagnate Motherships/Gliders. And when you think about it, that's precisely what the Asgard did too, they relied so much on their technological and Spaceship superiority that they evolved to be a small, soft race that wouldn't stand a chance in hand to hand combat (Unless they use Exosuits, but thats besides the point). vandelay industries posted:Oh yeah I totally agree with that, though you would think they would adapt to Earth's type of warfare after 10 years of intense battles with them. That's another thing though, The Goa'uld and Jaffa are so fragmented that only basic knowledge of how to fight Earth is ever passed around. You could probably probably any sophisticated Earth ground warfare weapon against one Goa'uld/Jaffa faction, have it be so effective that it killed anyone who saw what the weapon was, and do the exact same thing to another Goa'uld without having to worry about a Learning curve or Counter measure for years.
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The Jaffa are also slave warriors with very limited education and no non-job related access to advanced technology. Staff weapons are not just weapons of terror, they are designed to be used intuitively and they basically never run out of ammo. Even if the system lords knew about the superiority of projectile weapons, those require a supply chain that does not exist. The staff weapon's rate of fire and simplicity could simply be the result of economical decisions related to controlling a vast empire of slave with other slaves.
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It's funny you're talking about Jaffa weaponry. I was just watching "The Warrior" (5x18) where Carter shows off how much better their P90s are than the staff weapons.
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Aatrek posted:It's funny you're talking about Jaffa weaponry. I was just watching "The Warrior" (5x18) where Carter shows off how much better their P90s are than the staff weapons. The Jaffa in that episode immediately bring up that they would be dependent on the Tauri for ammunition, which I liked.
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Snak posted:The Jaffa in that episode immediately bring up that they would be dependent on the Tauri for ammunition, which I liked. Phht. As if the Jaffa wouldn't learn how to reload. 
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JetsGuy posted:Phht. As if the Jaffa wouldn't learn how to reload. Indeed, but it would be no easy task.
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Snak posted:Indeed, but it would be no easy task. With the Stargate, I'm sure the Jaffa would have unlimited brass and lead.  EDIT: BUt yes, given that or a magic staff weapon that will die hundreds of years from now...
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