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nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Rainuwastaken posted:

The move fails.

Aw, that blows. I really like the idea of pulling enemies out of their Mega forms, it'd be the ultimate "SIT THE gently caress DOWN, NERD" stunt.

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Brett824
Mar 30, 2009

I could let these dreamkillers kill my self esteem or use the arrogance as the steam to follow my dream

Zore posted:

Storyline pokemon don't have any EVs or IVs remember. And it has crap for coverage, and when in Sword Forme its defenses are like paper.

Its pretty cool, but its not like Scizor or something.

Erm, what? NPC trainers definitely have IVs (generally above average if it's a "medium" trainer most of the way through the game) and all the way up to perfect IVs if it's a "hard" trainer (Red, Cynthia in Unova, etc.)

I think certain ones might have EVs too but I don't really remember.

Brett824 fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Oct 14, 2013

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Zore posted:

Storyline pokemon don't have any EVs or IVs remember. And it has crap for coverage, and when in Sword Forme its defenses are like paper.

They absolutely have IVs, and I'm pretty sure the Champion, whose Tyrantrum was so ineffectual to me, has EVs too. It's also not like my Aegislash was EV trained or IV bred either; in fact, from the looks of the graph it's only got like 60 or so Defense EV, and the Judge says its stats are overall average with the best in HP and no other notable stats. Your first statement is invalid. I can't speak for its coverage because I havn't even begun to investigate egg moves or TMs for it.

....

Anyway, about the new breeding mechanics: I can :siren:confirm:siren: that male w/ hidden ability + ditto = babies with hidden ability. It's not 100%, though; out of 5 torchics, 4 had Speed Boost and 1 had Blaze. It may still be the old 60/20/20 split, just with the male passing down through dittos now.

Zurai fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Oct 14, 2013

kater
Nov 16, 2010

The incidental writing in this game is pretty loving amazing, and I say that as someone who typically can't stand Nintendo localizations. Go get em ex-Bug Catcher.

Also I haven't progressed too far in the story, but so far it is kind of creepy with the rampant class struggle tones and what I'm assuming is the antagonist being some sort of youth socialism movement and all these loving people asking for tips with the underlying question being "Why should I" and I dunno it might turn into nothing but it seems a really weird thing to find in a kids game.

Red Minjo
Oct 20, 2010

Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.

Gravy Boat 2k
I finally saw and caught my first shiny Pokemon ever. It was a Haunter, which doesn't look super different from the normal one. Looking at one of the imgur albums a while back in the thread, it looks like shiny Mega Gengar gets to look super cool, so I do have that to look forward to.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013

if i go crazy then
will you still
call me superman
Welp, I think my character just ate a Slowpoke tail. :gonk:

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

kater posted:

The incidental writing in this game is pretty loving amazing, and I say that as someone who typically can't stand Nintendo localizations. Go get em ex-Bug Catcher.

They've done a good job at not being as insanely condescending as they were in Black and White. The dialogue there felt like Dora the Explorer in text form. And I say this as someone who typically loves Nintendo localizations.

Doflamingo
Sep 20, 2006

Red Minjo posted:

I finally saw and caught my first shiny Pokemon ever. It was a Haunter, which doesn't look super different from the normal one. Looking at one of the imgur albums a while back in the thread, it looks like shiny Mega Gengar gets to look super cool, so I do have that to look forward to.

Congrats! Could you post a link to that imgur album? Sounds neat.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
I just beat the champion without losing a single hit point :smuggo:

Doflamingo posted:

Congrats! Could you post a link to that imgur album? Sounds neat.

http://imgur.com/a/VZ0jQ#1

Red Minjo
Oct 20, 2010

Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.

Gravy Boat 2k

Doflamingo posted:

Congrats! Could you post a link to that imgur album? Sounds neat.
http://imgur.com/a/VZ0jQ#4

Here's the album with some of the new shiny Pokemon. Mega Gengar is in the second row, but shiny Mega Charizard gets a .gif

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Zurai posted:

Anyway, about the new breeding mechanics: I can :siren:confirm:siren: that male w/ hidden ability + ditto = babies with hidden ability. It's not 100%, though; out of 5 torchics, 4 had Speed Boost and 1 had Blaze. It may still be the old 60/20/20 split, just with the male passing down through dittos now.

Hah, sounds like one of the teams team working on the nuts and bolts of the game changed the mechanics and didn't tell the teams working on promotions.

Soon the world shall be flooded with speed bust Torchics.

Brett824
Mar 30, 2009

I could let these dreamkillers kill my self esteem or use the arrogance as the steam to follow my dream

david puddy posted:

I just beat the champion without losing a single hit point :smuggo:

This is called "having an ice move".

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
I've only just reached the 3rd gym and all of my Pokemon are above Lv 30, my Blaziken is 37 as well, that XP All item is just so amazing.
My Vespiquen recently learned Toxic as well, turning her into the best tank, Heal Order and Power Gem make her a beast in combat.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Alkydere posted:

Soon the world shall be flooded with speed bust Torchics.

Indeed. I'm going to trade away Shoryugget, Yoga Chicken, Gohendohen, Hatchurenko, and Sonic Boom in the morning. Probably just Wonder Trade 'em unless I see anything intersting on the GTS.

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.
Where do I get the super rod?

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

david puddy posted:

I just beat the champion without losing a single hit point :smuggo:


http://imgur.com/a/VZ0jQ#1

Aw what the gently caress, did they get the shiny and normal colors for Chesnaught reversed or something?? That looks way better and it's triggering my OCD.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013

if i go crazy then
will you still
call me superman

Nickname Pending posted:

Where do I get the super rod?
At a house in Route 16. You should see it immidiately when you enter Route 16 through Not-Paris.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Alkydere posted:


Soon the world shall be flooded with speed bust Torchics.

Just wait until one is female.

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



Spent the last hour or so trying to find a decent mawile in the glittering cave and I run into a female kangashkhan :stare: hey there buddy, I didn't know I could find you in here!

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.

TheEggsBenedict posted:

At a house in Route 16. You should see it immidiately when you enter Route 16 through Not-Paris.

Thanks. Also, anyone willing to trade a good natured Phantump (doesn't trading evolve it?)

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

The breeding changes just make me even more anxious to send over some old Pokemon. On one hand it's refreshing to have everyone on the same page again, but on the other hand December 27th can't come soon enough!!

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

I like how most (all?) caves or whatnot ("dungeon" isn't really a great term but I'm not thinking of the right word) have someone who can heal your pokemon for you. I know BW (or at least BW2, it's been a while since I played Black) had Nurses/Doctors in places, but they weren't really everywhere. Or maybe they were, I don't remember. Either way, I still like that they continued it. I hate leaving a cave or whatever just to find a pokemon center.

e: Is there a Pokemon-Amie guide somewhere? I have no idea what I'm doing, and the bonuses sound cool and I want them.

myron cope fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Oct 14, 2013

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.

Sade posted:

Aegislash @ Life Orb
Adamant - 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Sacred Sword
Shadow Sneak
Autotomize / King's Shield
King's Shield / Iron Head / Hidden Power Ground

Its absurd typing and hilariously high defenses in shield form will likely mean it takes hits like a champ while it attempts to set up. Third move is a toss-up between taking advantage of the other STAB, having access to the defense form after attempting a sweep, and hitting the fire-types that'll give it the most trouble. I've got a feeling something like this will be A Thing in OU.

Why Shadow Sneak over Shadow Claw? I've had better results with Claw.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Solus posted:

Why Shadow Sneak over Shadow Claw? I've had better results with Claw.

Priority is really powerful when you're as slow as Aegislash, and vital if he ever wants to sweep anything versus other people.

Joonami
Oct 23, 2005

Swim this way
We'll dance and we'll play
Now, it's very easy
Come on in
Just take a chance and shake a fin~
Ugh, does Skrelp really need to know Camouflage to evolve? :cry:

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

myron cope posted:

I like how most (all?) caves or whatnot ("dungeon" isn't really a great term but I'm not thinking of the right word) have someone who can heal your pokemon for you. I know BW (or at least BW2, it's been a while since I played Black) had Nurses/Doctors in places, but they weren't really everywhere. Or maybe they were, I don't remember. Either way, I still like that they continued it. I hate leaving a cave or whatever just to find a pokemon center.

e: Is there a Pokemon-Amie guide somewhere? I have no idea what I'm doing, and the bonuses sound cool and I want them.

I don't know man, BW2 had those healers literally everywhere since things seemed to hit a lot harder in Gen 5 for some reason. It'd get to the point where you'd fight two trainers and have to heal up at the nearby doctor/nurse constantly. I much prefer them going back to a more drawn out damage curve.

Also to address your second point, http://a0.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1obmol/max_affection_in_20_mins_0_to_5_hearts_pokemon/

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009


Can anyone trade with me, take my Honedge, and make him forget Cut? It's eating up a precious moveslot and I don't think I'm even close to a Move Deleter :(

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



So I am new to the daycare system and I have a male mawile with intimidate and a female mawile with the nature I want, what are the chances of getting a baby with the right nature/ability? Or is nature random for eggs?

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Samael posted:

So I am new to the daycare system and I have a male mawile with intimidate and a female mawile with the nature I want, what are the chances of getting a baby with the right nature/ability? Or is nature random for eggs?

If you slap on an Everstone on the female Mawile, you'll get the exact blend you want.
To go into more detail, in the case where you have two like species of Pokemon in the nursery, the father will pass down its ability in most cases. However, if you have a mother mating with an off species Pokemon, the mother's ability gets passed down in most cases.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

Joonami posted:

Ugh, does Skrelp really need to know Camouflage to evolve? :cry:

If it makes you feel better you can catch wild Dragalge in Y. I caught a couple earlier with a super rod.

Samael
Oct 16, 2012



pandaK posted:

If you slap on an Everstone on the female Mawile, you'll get the exact blend you want.
To go into more detail, in the case where you have two like species of Pokemon in the nursery, the father will pass down its ability in most cases. However, if you have a mother mating with an off species Pokemon, the mother's ability gets passed down in most cases.

Thanks! :) Usually I don't even touch IVs/EVs or getting the right natures and such, but with the battle training now I feel like it's much more user friendly to make your special team of min/maxed pokemon.

Evil Canadian
Sep 10, 2000

No one man should have all that Psycho-Power.

Random question but I guess I never knew the answer to it: Say you let a pokemon stay un-evolved for a while(past the point when it would normally evolve). When you finally do evolve it, are you forever out of stat points that you would of gained while being in the higher evolution?

Example: Azurill is being stubborn with the happiness evolution, if it takes him a while to finally evolve into maril-azumarill, is it just gimped?

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.

Evil Canadian posted:

Random question but I guess I never knew the answer to it: Say you let a pokemon stay un-evolved for a while(past the point when it would normally evolve). When you finally do evolve it, are you forever out of stat points that you would of gained while being in the higher evolution?

Example: Azurill is being stubborn with the happiness evolution, if it takes him a while to finally evolve into maril-azumarill, is it just gimped?

Nah. The stat changes are all retroactive.

Quick Edit: With move relearning and easy EV resetting, the only way I can see permanently gimping a pokemon is to either delete/overwrite an egg move, or to keep it from evolving based on levelup until it's reached level 100 and can no longer level up. I could be missing something, though.

HeyItsAyls
Nov 25, 2011

Joonami posted:

Ugh, does Skrelp really need to know Camouflage to evolve? :cry:

Nope, just evolves at level 48. Which seems unfair because its version counterpart, Clauncher, evolves at level 37.

Trebuchet King posted:

I think I asked this too close to the bottom of a page a few pages back (jesus I can't remember the last time I saw a thread move this fast), so I hope I'm not steppin' on anyone's toes re-asking.

That symbol means an ambush. Try walking up and down the middle path, eventually a bush will shake and Venipede (or Audino) will leap out at you. It's fun at first but Repel doesn't stop it, so in a later route I'm constantly getting ambushed by Durants. :argh:

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.
Why is the -amie face recognition utter garbage? How the hell do I make it distinct that my eyes are wide are not without perpetually squinting or something??

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
Does anyone know if trading would reset pokemon amie? My partner wants to give her eevee a fairy move but doesn't have a TM for it yet, but I do. So we were going to trade, give it the move then trade back, but if amie is reset then it's kinda pointless

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

pandaK posted:

If you slap on an Everstone on the female Mawile, you'll get the exact blend you want.
To go into more detail, in the case where you have two like species of Pokemon in the nursery, the father will pass down its ability in most cases. However, if you have a mother mating with an off species Pokemon, the mother's ability gets passed down in most cases.


Samael posted:

Thanks! :) Usually I don't even touch IVs/EVs or getting the right natures and such, but with the battle training now I feel like it's much more user friendly to make your special team of min/maxed pokemon.

Okay wait, I've been power breeding a ton of new Mawile with the one Nerdbot gave me (Adamant female with Intimidate), and it seems that Everstone actually seems to make you pass down the ability too. This may require more testing...
But the gist here is that Game Freak is pushing the boundaries on how convenient everything is and it feels great.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Where's the TM for Flamethrower supposed to be? Google's not helping much.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Has anyone figured out where the ice rock to get a Glaceon is?

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Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Aurain posted:

Has anyone figured out where the ice rock to get a Glaceon is?

It's in a room at the very back of the Ice Cave.

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