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Final boss for P3 may be one of my favorites ever. There's nothing like a tough endurance run to finish off a RPG with. Once you win, you breathe a sigh of relief and a bump to your chest in victory.
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I don't know how you're at the end of the game and get killed by the Reaper in one hit. I could kill him in the 50's. I actually grinded on him to gain a crap ton of levels in the mid-game.
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I was only level ~60ish for the final boss and I didn't have any trouble. That said I was playing P3P, so I could actually control the party members.
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PureRok posted:I don't know how you're at the end of the game and get killed by the Reaper in one hit. I could kill him in the 50's. I actually grinded on him to gain a crap ton of levels in the mid-game. Minato is level 75 and the rest of my party members are 68-72, and the Reaper still outspeeds and wipes everyone except me ![]() Endorph posted:I was only level ~60ish for the final boss and I didn't have any trouble. That said I was playing P3P, so I could actually control the party members. I wish I could, but I'm stuck with FES. I'd be able to breeze through if I could tell my goddamn healers to spam Mediarama instead of Diarahan ![]()
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Proto Cloud posted:Final boss for P3 may be one of my favorites ever. There's nothing like a tough endurance run to finish off a RPG with. Once you win, you breathe a sigh of relief and a bump to your chest in victory. The problem is none of the 10 or however many initial forms are any challenge whatsoever so it ends up feeling less like an endurance boss and more like a "waste 20-30 minutes of my time before the real fight starts" boss. I don't want to imagine dying near the end of that fight more than once.
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Perfect Potato posted:The problem is none of the 10 or however many initial forms are any challenge whatsoever so it ends up feeling less like an endurance boss and more like a "waste 20-30 minutes of my time before the real fight starts" boss. I don't want to imagine dying near the end of that fight more than once. I routinely wipe on Chariot, Justice, and Hanged Man, and the first 13 phases take about 2 hours combined, with the last one taking another 2 ![]()
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Alabaster White posted:and the first 13 phases take about 2 hours combined, with the last one taking another 2 What the hell are you doing that it takes you FOUR HOURS? I really don't get it - even my first time through it maybe took me half an hour for the entire thing at most.
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kirbysuperstar posted:What the hell are you doing that it takes you FOUR HOURS? I really don't get it - even my first time through it maybe took me half an hour for the entire thing at most. It's based entirely off of how often Nyx decides to use Almighty Attack. Everything else is a cinch, but Almighty Attack does about 130 damage to everyone per use. My healers are loving idiots who never ever use Mediarama, opting to use Diarahan instead, so I have to constantly keep buffing everyone's defense and healing on my own until they get everyone out of critical HP levels, or Nyx decides to stop owning everyone. I can do 400 damage with a Ragnarok from Surt, and Mitsuru's Mind Charged Bufudynes do 220, it's just I'm never in a position to attack. Of course once I get to Death, everything goes out the window where even my strongest attack does less than 150, with the rest of my party barely squeaking out 90s, while I have to contend with Moonless Gown and more goddamn Almighty Attacks ![]() Please tell me I've somehow accidentally activated some sort of bizarre copy-protection that halves your HP and damage or something ![]() Kite Pride Worldwide fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Oct 6, 2013 |
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Alabaster White posted:It's based entirely off of how often Nyx decides to use Almighty Attack. Everything else is a cinch, but Almighty Attack does about 130 damage to everyone per use. My healers are loving idiots who never ever use Mediarama, opting to use Diarahan instead, so I have to constantly keep buffing everyone's defense and healing on my own until they get everyone out of critical HP levels, or Nyx decides to stop owning everyone. I can do 400 damage with a Ragnarok from Surt, and Mitsuru's Mind Charged Bufudynes do 220, it's just I'm never in a position to attack. Of course once I get to Death, everything goes out the window where even my strongest attack does less than 150, with the rest of my party barely squeaking out 90s, while I have to contend with Moonless Gown and more goddamn Almighty Attacks If you are having this much trouble, maybe you should go do the Star and Devil S-links and fuse Helel and Satan and abuse their skill. Bonus points if you get a Helel with Victory Cry. You will need to be about level 90 to do this though. Fake Edit: Don't use Armageddon until the final form obviously.
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subhelios posted:If you are having this much trouble, maybe you should go do the Star and Devil S-links and fuse Helel and Satan and abuse their skill. If I were a high enough level to fuse Helel I probably wouldn't be having this problem in the first place ![]() I did totally forget that fusion skills existed, though. Are any particularly useful (besides Armageddon, obviously)?
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Alabaster White posted:If I were a high enough level to fuse Helel I probably wouldn't be having this problem in the first place The first one you get with Orpheus and Apsaras is very good (50% HP recovery and Masukukaja) for the beginning parts of the game. Thor and Take Mikazuchi can kinda reproduce Odin's Thunder Reign with a lower chance of shock if you've been too lazy to get him. The rest (aside from Armageddon) is not all that great.
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Vishnu and Ananta's Infinity negates all damage, including almighty, for a turn but it's another really high level one that costs a fortune to cast. Not that this is a problem if you make Daisoujou and/or Alice and poke your head in Monad for a bit.
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Alabaster White posted:Minato is level 75 and the rest of my party members are 68-72, and the Reaper still outspeeds and wipes everyone except me
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What are your personas, and what level are they? (Personae? Is it like deer and the plural is just the same word?) Have you been keeping up to date on fusing?
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Endorph posted:What are your personas, and what level are they? (Personae? Is it like deer and the plural is just the same word?) Have you been keeping up to date on fusing? It's personas for the sake of Persona. In normal English, I'd probably use personae as the plural. No idea what's technically right though. Edit: I'm completely second guessing myself now. The games might use persona as plural too... CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Oct 6, 2013 |
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CottonWolf posted:It's personas for the sake of Persona. In normal English, I'd probably use personae as the plural. No idea what's technically right though. The games use personas as the plural and arcana as a singular word, even though it's technically personae and arcanum in English respectively (though personas is pretty widely accepted).
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dis astranagant posted:Vishnu and Ananta's Infinity negates all damage, including almighty, for a turn but it's another really high level one that costs a fortune to cast. Not that this is a problem if you make Daisoujou and/or Alice and poke your head in Monad for a bit. It is also absolutely required for the Elizabeth fight. You literally cannot win unless you have access to it.
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Strange Quark posted:The games use personas as the plural and arcana as a singular word, even though it's technically personae and arcanum in English respectively (though personas is pretty widely accepted). Per Webster's, at least, the two plurals have different meanings: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/persona .. with the -s plural being appropriate for the use in the games, and the -ae related to acting and the like.
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Just started Persona 2, and am really liking it so far. But holy balls is the system more complicated thatn P3 and P4. Couple of system questions though: 1) Am I right that there’s no Press Turn system in this? It seems like weaknesses just deal more damage since you give all your orders in the beginning 2) I seem to be recouping HP/MP after a fight. Is this normally supposed to happen? I’m playing Normal. 3) Does forming a Pact do anything other than granting you access to getting money/items/rumors? Also, once you ask a demon once for info and they don’t have any is it worth it ever to ask them again? 4) Other than elemental affinities, is it ever worth it not to do a Fusion attack? They seem to be flat out better and cause mutations Finally, I just want to get this straight, in order to get any new Persona you have get Arcana cards which then let you summon new Persona. There’s no fusion right? Your older persona I assume you either keep around or dump at Rank 8 for the possibility of an item or such. There’s just a lot of information to absorb all at once. Also, is there a way to turn off the battle animations?
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Thundercracker posted:Just started Persona 2, and am really liking it so far. But holy balls is the system more complicated thatn P3 and P4. 2). Unless it's been changed in the PSP release, I'm pretty sure you only regain SP from walking around. 3). If you form a pact with a demon and then later on in a different battle negotiate with that demon for cards you will receive Free Tarots. Free Tarots can be changed into any arcana you want, making them extremely valuable. 4). You want to try to end battles with Fusion attacks pretty much 100% of the time. 5?). Yes you just utilize your available arcana cards to summon new personas.
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Thundercracker posted:Just started Persona 2, and am really liking it so far. But holy balls is the system more complicated thatn P3 and P4. I think there's an option to turn off the animations in the options menu, but I'll have to look again just to be sure. You can turn off the cut-ins that show up when you're about to do a fusion attack, at least. ![]()
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If I recall, turning off the animations is the "start" button in battles.
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Devil Survivor Overclocked is apparently now available on the eShop in both NA and EU, but I'm sure no one is particularly interested right now because Pokemon is happening.
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TurnipFritter posted:Devil Survivor Overclocked is apparently now available on the eShop in both NA and EU, but I'm sure no one is particularly interested right now because Pokemon is happening. Yeah, I saw that, 35€ on the EU shop. What's the consensus on Overclocked, is it any good? I heard there were problems with Ghostlight's translation, though they supposedly issued a patch.
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scissorman posted:Yeah, I saw that, 35€ on the EU shop. Overclocked is great. However while the extra content is nice unless you're a huge fan of the original DS version (like me) you probably can pass on it. But if you never played the original there's no reason not to get it. It's kinda janky mechanically (mostly only revolving around escort missions) but otherwise it's a solid experience with a lot of replay value and some cool endings.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YHF-wINwhc Persona 3 movie preview. I think they changed up how they convince the MC to join SEES. It's supposed to be everyone trying to convince him, not Ikutsuki having a private chat with him. I really hope they don't do a Devil Survivor 2 on this.
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Speaking of which, has there been any announcements on Break Record, or was that another victim of the whole Index/Sega shake up?
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Dehry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YHF-wINwhc Doesn't look bad then again P3 is my favorite game on the series ![]() I still don't undertsand why they don't used the manga name for the MC though.
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It's nice to see the Persona users actually fighting this time, as opposed to P4's users and DeSu2's tamers being demoted to Pokemon Trainers.
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Eh, I don't know. The P4 cast and their lack of training, Chie and Kanji excepted wouldn't lend themselves for interesting fight scenes. Maybe it'll work in P3 because most characters has training for their weapon of choices, with the exception of Shinjiro and Junpei, who adhere to the school of hitting them with whatever you have on hand, and Ken and Koromaru, who just don't fit.
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P4A feels really out of place, seeing all the characters fight like experts when they could barely swing their weapons before. I didn't get the sense that they were supposed to be any good at fighting at all, and their Personas did 100% of the actual attacking.Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Doesn't look bad then again P3 is my favorite game on the series Something about the manga names just rubs me the wrong way for some reason. I'm really glad I don't have to call the character Souji Seta, for instance.
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What's your problem with alliteration? ![]()
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404GoonNotFound posted:Speaking of which, has there been any announcements on Break Record, or was that another victim of the whole Index/Sega shake up? As far as I know, Sega buying Index delayed a lot of their announcements, but they're still in progress.
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MrAristocrates posted:What's your problem with alliteration? Mainly it's because everyone knows the real protag name in any game is Kanye West.
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Len posted:Mainly it's because everyone knows the real protag name in any game is Kanye West. That's an odd way of spelling Charlie Tunoku.
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Personally, I went with Bruce Willis. Improved the impact of lines such as "Help us, [protagonist name], you're our only hope!" tenfold.
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I always name the MC Jesus Christ since it's both funny for me and appropriate.
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I'm not going to miss Minato as a name particularly but Makoto Yuki is going to make me think of other characters first instead of the MC, and some of them will even be from SMT!. At least Yu Narukami was more unique.
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Marogareh posted:I always name the MC Jesus Christ since it's both funny for me and appropriate. I also do this, for the same reasons.
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 21:39 |
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I am boring and name him after me, because ~*~IMMERSION~*~. Except my last name is single-syllable and that really doesn't roll off the tongue when someone refers to you by it.
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