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my standard interview qs are usually along the lines of "implement String.Replace" but I don't actually name string.replace and i also don't say you can't use it if they ask me if they can use it i give them the most mental points; if they don't ask, but just use it, i give them a few less mental points (because you're just being a smartass and wasting time, or you don't know to ask questions) and then i tell them they cant use it because i want to watch them write some code and see how they debug it like the purpose of the question is to ask you to write something you've probably never written before, i obviously know how it's supposed to work or i wouldn't be asking, you can ask me questions, and then i get to watch you write and debug a method. if you just bang it out because you memorized it, cool, now i have to come up with something you haven't seen
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library functions are a rich mine of interview questions specifically because you probably have never written the code that does that before because it's actually in the library
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Oct 18, 2013 23:36
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like quick, implement string.contains it's not as easy as you might think
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Oct 18, 2013 23:36
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string.indexof != -1 doesnt seem that bad. what kind of job do u interview for exactly?
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Oct 18, 2013 23:38
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Nomnom Cookie posted:string.indexof != -1 "cool, now do it without that function" you know what i'm actually asking for, though, so after the first couple of times you do that you're just being annoying
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Oct 18, 2013 23:40
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also i interview people to be on a development team
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Oct 18, 2013 23:40
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so now we're both annoyed, seems fair to me
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Nomnom Cookie posted:so now we're both annoyed, seems fair to me i mean if you're going into the interview adversarially cool i guess? i want to watch you write code so i know you have a decent coding and testing process, whether you successfully implement the algorithm is actually pretty insignificant
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Oct 18, 2013 23:42
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make it something fun then like generating a voronoi diagram
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Oct 18, 2013 23:43
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Nomnom Cookie posted:make it something fun then like generating a voronoi diagram d3.geom.voronoi()
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Nomnom Cookie posted:make it something fun then like generating a voronoi diagram actually a pretty fantastic idea, i'll come up with some less boring ones
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Oct 18, 2013 23:45
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git clone trooper posted:d3.geom.voronoi() programming test for javascript devs: make an ajax call using raw xhr
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Oct 18, 2013 23:47
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Nomnom Cookie posted:programming test for javascript devs: make an ajax call using raw xhr it's really sad how many people would get tripped up by this
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Oct 18, 2013 23:51
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Dessert Rose posted:library functions are a rich mine of interview questions specifically because you probably have never written the code that does that before because it's actually in the library i don't write that code because it is already in the standard library very little of business application programming involves designing novel algorithms or even implementing old ones
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Oct 19, 2013 00:27
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't write that code because it is already in the standard library yeah i dont do the whole business application programming thing, so
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i don't write that code because it is already in the standard library this kind of thinking is how you get poo poo like solr cloud, that stores its "cluster state" in zookeeper and then has an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of consensus for the data storage
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Oct 19, 2013 02:27
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well the pre-solr-cloud solution is usually to shard by primary key mod number of masters, and hope you have enough replicas for each one. then when you want to add more nodes, you have to reindex everything. so i guess it's an improvement over that
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Oct 19, 2013 02:31
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its possible that solr cloud is better than doing it yourself. iffy though. today i bounced a shard leader and when it came back up and everyone was synced, the leader had fewer documents than the replica. touch wood and pray it doesn't happen in prod
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Oct 19, 2013 02:35
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i am a terrible programmer and have only done things of significance in python i want to make a script that goes through every page of the YOSPOS music thread and stores the URLS in a txt file that I can then turn to html and create a playlist from. for the first part of this, and imho the most challenging, i need to make a script to parse all the vid urls from the thread. what is the best language to use for this process and will i need to use something that can log me in to do this? thx in advance yours in christ, hubris
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Oct 19, 2013 04:18
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hubris.height posted:i am a terrible programmer and have only done things of significance in python mechanize/nokogiri makes this pretty trivial to do in ruby, iunno what the python equivalent is off the top of my head and hosed if i'm googling it
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Oct 19, 2013 04:19
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there's mechanize for python but I have no idea if it's any good I've done similar things using requests and lxml
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hubris.height posted:i am a terrible programmer and have only done things of significance in python use BeautifulSoup to parse the html conveniently, pull next page urls and keep the loop goin i know cuz i wrote an image scraper for the image thread like 2 years ago
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Oct 19, 2013 06:30
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so you're the one who did this. 
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Oct 19, 2013 06:58
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Symbolic Butt posted:so you're the one who did this. lol someone saved this hahahaha yes that is mine
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Oct 19, 2013 07:30
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oct 3rd 2010 i wrote that script while also filming live TV was chillin in a closet filming a city council meeting on the sony anycast x/y camera control thing, lots of downtime during presentations to the city planning committees etc so i'd just do stupid poo poo like this thats my story
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Oct 19, 2013 07:32
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I found it when I was looking around urllib on google makes you think the way your code was immortalized on the web like this
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Symbolic Butt posted:I found it when I was looking around urllib on google how did you feel bumpin into a script so specific
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beautiful soup is legit i wrote a thing in that to check driving tetss and saved a bucnh of money. cheers beautiful soup
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Nomnom Cookie posted:this kind of thinking is how you get poo poo like solr cloud, that stores its "cluster state" in zookeeper and then has an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of consensus for the data storage if you set out to write a business application and you ended up reimplementing the ZAB consistency protocol for your distributed system holy poo poo you hosed up also this is kind of an unknown unknowns situation. extended familiarity with red/black trees and "500 algorithm questions for java!" textbooks will not arm you with the knowledge you need to identify attempts to violate the CAP theorem or implement paxos. i know just enough to know i'm dangerous and stay the gently caress away. Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Oct 20, 2013 |
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Nomnom Cookie posted:its possible that solr cloud is better than doing it yourself. iffy though. today i bounced a shard leader and when it came back up and everyone was synced, the leader had fewer documents than the replica. touch wood and pray it doesn't happen in prod how do you feel about elastic search that's the new hotness that the dudes at $OLDJOB were trying to sell as a solr replacement. (i am pretty sure they just picked libraries/systems based on what got upvoted on HN though)
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:how do you feel about elastic search I haven't used it at all, ever. i'm sure it's a viable alternative at the very least
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hubris.height posted:i am a terrible programmer and have only done things of significance in python this is not a hard project so it would be a good opportunity (imo) to "dip your feet" into a real language. PHP could do this v easily with either the basic built-in curl_* functions, or, if you want to go fancy, the http extension and the HttpRequest class. you don't need to worry about logging in or anything, just copy your "bbuserid" and "bbpassword" cookies. regex the html for urls and you're done.
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hubris.height posted:i am a terrible programmer and have only done things of significance in python i did this once but with the pics thread to pick out all the image urls and figure out how many times they had been emptyquoted etc. I dont have the code anymore because it was some dumb poo poo 3 formats ago but i used some fairly standard html parser lib in python and it was really easy. u just scrape the pages and dig through the html tags until u find the individual posts, then search/extract the youtube urls and put them in a list
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php and regexing html lol good one tbc
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if u can't see why regexing to pull some urls out of an html doc is ok then lol upon ye
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yeah nobody's talking about parsing HTML with regex here. you have a chunk of text and there are urls inside, that's all. regex is ideal
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ok i guess the only way to get it done is to get started. i was gonna template using the python beautiful soup script from earlier on the page but hell i'll take a look at php and see if i can't make this a thing wish me luck
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hubris.height posted:i'll take a look at php no dont!
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hubris.height posted:ok i guess the only way to get it done is to get started. i was gonna template using the python beautiful soup script from earlier on the page but hell i'll take a look at php and see if i can't make this a thing use c# and htmlagilitypack
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Tiny Bug Child posted:this is not a hard project so it would be a good opportunity (imo) to "dip your feet" into a real language. PHP could do this v easily with either the basic built-in curl_* functions, or, if you want to go fancy, the http extension and the HttpRequest class. you don't need to worry about logging in or anything, just copy your "bbuserid" and "bbpassword" cookies. regex the html for urls and you're done.
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