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So you tried to say "context matters" but ended up saying "forbidden words shouldn't exist?" I guess I did miss your point then
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Oh for gently caress sake, I wasn't trying to say anything profound. I was referring to prominent people saying that some words shouldn't be used because they are so offensive. The point is that the word isn't offensive, it's the context, yet we still have seemingly intelligent people actually proposing that there isn't any context for them. I'm still trying to parse exactly what you're saying, because you cant honestly be saying that "if 'friend of the family' didn't offend people it wouldn't be a bad word."
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Oct 22, 2013 02:56
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Guys. Easy with the homophobia drat. We don't so that here.
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Chichevache posted:I'm still trying to parse exactly what you're saying, because you cant honestly be saying that "if 'friend of the family' didn't offend people it wouldn't be a bad word." It's not necessarily a dumb argument in hindsight maybe, just a weird combination of A. irrelevant B. obvious C. meaningless.
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Oct 22, 2013 03:03
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Chris Gaines posted:thanks for the insight sorry i have a kneejerk reaction against the "no one should be offended by anything they're just words" brigade (which I guess wasn't what mr. funny pants was trying to say)
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Oct 22, 2013 03:04
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Mel Mudkiper posted:It's not necessarily a dumb argument in hindsight maybe, just a weird combination of A. irrelevant B. obvious C. meaningless. Irrelevant+obvious+meaningless=dumb argument 
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Oct 22, 2013 03:09
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TFF, we've traced the bad posts...The bad football writing is coming from inside the thread!
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Oct 22, 2013 03:20
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Febreeze posted:TFF, we've traced the bad posts...The bad football writing is coming from inside the thread! YOu know, if everyone liked and appreciated those posts then they would be good posts. Makes you think, doesn't it?
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Oct 22, 2013 03:23
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Chichevache posted:YOu know, if everyone liked and appreciated those posts then they would be good posts. Makes you think, doesn't it? I'm sure it keeps you up at night
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Oct 22, 2013 03:23
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sweet thursday posted:I'm sure it keeps you up at night Don't accuse my posts of having thought behind them.
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Chichevache posted:I'm still trying to parse exactly what you're saying, because you cant honestly be saying that "if 'friend of the family' didn't offend people it wouldn't be a bad word." Not even close. And I'm not sure how I can better explain, honestly, but I'll try one more time and then wave the white flag and let the thread get back to more interesting stuff. Call a black person a friend of the family? Then you are a horrid piece of poo poo. Use it as a tool to ridicule the horrid pieces of poo poo or make broader points about racism? That's fine. When Cleavon Little popped up from behind that rock in Blazing Saddles and said, "Where the white women at," he wasn't celebrating a godawful racist stereotype, he was ridiculing the idiots that believe such poo poo. When Dan Snyder insists on using an obviously grotesque slur for commercial reasons or some horseshit notion of "tradition", he's a horrid piece of poo poo. When The Onion then uses an equally awful slur that should hit home to Snyder, they are making a point and making it well. Mel Mudkiper posted:It's not necessarily a dumb argument in hindsight maybe, just a weird combination of A. irrelevant B. obvious C. meaningless. Chichevache posted:Irrelevant+obvious+meaningless=dumb argument And on those notes I'll gladly tap out.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Not even close. And I'm not sure how I can better explain, honestly, but I'll try one more time and then wave the white flag and let the thread get back to more interesting stuff. Call a black person a friend of the family? Then you are a horrid piece of poo poo. Use it as a tool to ridicule the horrid pieces of poo poo or make broader points about racism? That's fine. When Cleavon Little popped up from behind that rock in Blazing Saddles and said, "Where the white women at," he wasn't celebrating a godawful racist stereotype, he was ridiculing the idiots that believe such poo poo. Alright, that does make sense. But I'm not sure why you even felt the need to argue it. I'm sure all of us here in TFF recognized that the Onion was using a slur for the purpose of satire.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Not even close. And I'm not sure how I can better explain, honestly, but I'll try one more time and then wave the white flag and let the thread get back to more interesting stuff. Call a black person a friend of the family? Then you are a horrid piece of poo poo. Use it as a tool to ridicule the horrid pieces of poo poo or make broader points about racism? That's fine. When Cleavon Little popped up from behind that rock in Blazing Saddles and said, "Where the white women at," he wasn't celebrating a godawful racist stereotype, he was ridiculing the idiots that believe such poo poo. Literally everyone in the thread got the point of the article.
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Badfinger posted:Literally everyone in the thread got the point of the article. Which I figured. The point that I very very poorly tried to make is that there are prominent people who wouldn't. Again, something that we all probably knew, so my apologies for the dispatch from Obviousland. Seriously, let's move on, I was stupid.
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http://www.examiner.com/article/tim-tebow-returning-st-louis-stirs-up-tebow-rumors-with-sam-bradford-injury Mike Silver being terrible. *Claims the Rams have discussed Tim Tebow* *Creates media firestorm, quickly hops on twitter to clarify that it's 'unlikely'*
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Oct 22, 2013 15:32
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I saw this on ESPN and then blacked out so consider this a trigger warning for everyone
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Oct 22, 2013 17:34
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If Manning was so good at football, he'd play defense too. Think about it. He literally takes basically half of every game off.
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Oct 22, 2013 18:21
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sweet thursday posted:If Manning was so good at football, he'd play defense too. Think about it. He literally takes basically half of every game off. If Ray Lewis was such a leader, why did he never lead block?!
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Oct 22, 2013 18:36
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DangerKat posted:I saw this on ESPN and then blacked out so consider this a trigger warning for everyone I saw that too and my immediate thought was "that is the worst drawing of Manning I have ever seen." Seriously, how can a professional artist gently caress up a portrait of the single most recognizable football player in the world. The lovely one I drew on a marker board last month was better.
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Oct 22, 2013 20:55
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DangerKat posted:I saw this on ESPN and then blacked out so consider this a trigger warning for everyone I wonder how one gets a job illustrating for bad ESPN articles
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Febreeze posted:I wonder how one gets a job illustrating for bad ESPN articles For that particular job you'd have to at least scan TMQ. It isn't worth it.
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Oct 22, 2013 21:57
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I actually liked the old cartoons they used.
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Oct 22, 2013 22:35
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DangerKat posted:I saw this on ESPN and then blacked out so consider this a trigger warning for everyone What if Peyton Manning were a Dracula?
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Oct 22, 2013 23:14
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He could only play inside a dome, so really no difference.
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This is a pretty insightful piece by Matt Bowen on doing the in-season workout circuit after you've been cut, for Bleacher Report anyways. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1819669-an-insiders-guide-to-the-nfl-workout-circuit
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I get that piling on Greg Schiano is fun, and I get that it would be nearly impossible to get an active NFL player on-record to criticize a coach, but this poo poo just drives me crazy: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000268827/article/greg-schianos-regime-like-being-in-cuba-exbuc-says Greg Schiano's regime 'like being in Cuba,' ex-Buc says By Chris Wesseling Around the League Writer quote:One Tampa Bay Buccaneers player told NFL Media columnist Michael Silver earlier this month that coach Greg Schiano "absolutely" risked losing the locker room if the team didn't start winning. What makes it worse is that Wesseling has two sources on the record but he leads with the anonymous poo poo. Immediately following in that story: quote:Current Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett even was willing to go on record with his disdain for his former coach.
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Speaking of which, I find it amusing that no sports journalist, given their propensity for blatant trolling for clicks, has written a "In defense of Schiano" article.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Speaking of which, I find it amusing that no sports journalist, given their propensity for blatant trolling for clicks, has written a "In defense of Schiano" article. I think he's crossed over into being such a horrible failure on all fronts all at once that it would make them look too dumb even for sports "journalism." Which is pretty amazing. I wonder if we'll ever see a day when a Belichick disciple gets the bright idea to copy what makes Belichick good at his job, instead of copying how he's kind of an rear end in a top hat. It has the novelty of never having been tried.
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superaielman posted:http://www.examiner.com/article/tim-tebow-returning-st-louis-stirs-up-tebow-rumors-with-sam-bradford-injury http://bleacherreport.com/tim-tebow
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Good Will Hrunting posted:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9849822/nfl-trade-proposal-arizona-cardinals-wide-receiver-larry-fitzgerald-green-bay-packers None of the five trades they suggested make any sense (and I'm pretty sure the writer is unfamiliar with half the players involved). Check. Article titles all end with a question mark. Check. CYA phrasing of "unlikely but explosive" in the sub-headline. Check. I expect that they'll all be "debated" tonight on First Take etc to drum up interest and barroom arguments in these made up non stories.
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Rap posted:the anonymous attacking poo poo just would not fly in other areas of reporting. Never seen a "former administration official" say some poo poo?
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Oct 25, 2013 18:36
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Yeah daily politics news is the only other place when leaning so heavily on anonymity would fly. The question is whether elected officials and NFL head coaches should be on the same level where they're vulnerable to that.
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I've always been amazed at how similar sports reporting and political reporting are. We could have this same thread about sites like Politico and it wouldn't be much different.
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Sherman Sez Players Know Risk Frank Scwhab of Yahoo! Sports wants to disagree but it's just to argue Sherman's points! Frank Scwhab posted:Sherman starts the column by saying that he suffered a concussion in his first start, could barely see afterward and played two quarters "half blind," but got an interception later and stayed in the starting lineup.
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Oct 25, 2013 19:39
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I don't get why the NBA can have flagrant fouls that protect players from overly aggressive play, but if the NFL goes "hey maybe don't headshot people with your helmet like a human missile" people get all upset.
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