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etalian posted:It's mainly because Mavericks is able to make more aggressive use of CPU power saving especially for the new Haswell CPUs. The only thing specific to Safari is that it blocks flash by default, but there's no doubt a Chrome extension which will do this. The system keeps track of what apps eat the battery anyway so you'll be able to see if Chrome is behaving. In my experience Chrome eats RAM more than it eats CPU so I wouldn't expect the battery figures to be that different between them once power hungry plugins have been disabled.
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Oh My Science posted:I really wanted to see a new TBD. All I can hope for now is a silent refresh before the holidays. I'm fairly surprised they went on and on about 4k on the MacTube and then didn't announce a 4k display, myself.
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Oh My Science posted:I really wanted to see a new TBD. All I can hope for now is a silent refresh before the holidays. I'm sure you'll see it when the Mac Pro is officially released. Why mention it now when you can't buy it and can't buy the Mac Pro anyway.
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I went with the 13" I posted about previously. 2.6ghz (upgrade from the 2.4), if the i7 upgrade was quad core I would have done that, 8gb, 256ssd. Delivery supposed to be next week. Been waiting 2 months for the haswell refresh so another week is ok.
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Quick question: Someone's offering me $675 for my mid-2011 Air 1.7GHz dual-core i5. Good deal?
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Abel Wingnut posted:Quick question: Plug the model # into ebay and see what people have been buying em for.
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Abel Wingnut posted:Quick question: Yes
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Yea, seems that way from what I'm seeing. Thanks, guys. Another question: should I spring for a refurbished rMBP or new rMBP if my main use will be Ableton partnered with a fair amount of plugins? Might get heavily into Logic too. Not sure what the updated rMBP would help with really.
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Abel Wingnut posted:Yea, seems that way from what I'm seeing. Thanks, guys. Haswell is not about improved CPU performance mainly greatly improved battery life.
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etalian posted:Haswell is not about improved CPU performance mainly greatly improved battery life. With that in mind I think I'll pick up this bad boy: http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD212LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-25ghz-dual-core-intel-core-i5-with-retina-display Only shortcoming seems to be the 128gb SSD but I can make that work easily enough. Looks like it comes with Ivy Bridge, so that's cool too. Especially as I'm coming from the mid-2011 MacBook Air. PrimateLabs seems to suggest it's about 1200 points faster in 32-bit dual-core mode, so that's also cool. Not really seeing any problems so yea, I guess this is the one.
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Is the $1,499 MBP with Retina (I can get it at $1,399) a good entry point to the Mac world? Ready to ditch my Windows laptop so that everything in the house from Apple TV to iPhone will be part of one ecosystem.
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Absolutely. It was already awesome now it's better.
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phosdex posted:I went with the 13" I posted about previously. 2.6ghz (upgrade from the 2.4), if the i7 upgrade was quad core I would have done that, 8gb, 256ssd. Delivery supposed to be next week. Been waiting 2 months for the haswell refresh so another week is ok. I wonder if we'll see Intel quad core processors in 11 and 13 inch notebooks in two or three generations. That would be nuts for on the go audio production.
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porkface posted:Two weeks ago they told me it would be $400 to fix because I was out of warranty. When I saw the recall I scheduled a genius bar appointment and put a link to the "recall" notice in the notes field and it was pretty painless. I should probably note that "painless" means they took it and said they would repair at no cost. However, they still don't have the drives in Portland, OR with no ETA so I'm just kind of chilling.
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porkface posted:I should probably note that "painless" means they took it and said they would repair at no cost. However, they still don't have the drives in Portland, OR with no ETA so I'm just kind of chilling. I'm looking at about a week until I get mine back, they're out of drives here in Phoenix too. I was told my hard drive "didn't fit the requirements" to be replaced at first, but my Genius claimed he was able to pull some strings and sneak it through. He confirmed it was a Toshiba (128 GB) though, which as far as I know is the one that's been failing. Now I just want my MBA back so I can sell it and buy a rMBP.
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eames posted:Somebody over at ars posted this: These appear to be the CPUs going by the specs page (with Intel's prices) http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/specs/ 1620v2: 4 core, 3.7 - 3.9ghz, 10MB L3, $294 1620v2: 6 core, 3.5 - 3.9ghz, 12MB L3, $583 1680v2: 8 core, 3.0 - 3.9ghz, 25MB L3, $1723 2697v2: 12 core, 2.7 - 3.5ghz, 30MB L3, $2614 cloudline posted:It's really weird and offputting that they've canned the discrete GPU in the base 15". I would think it was a strange maneuver even on a non-retina, but on a 15" rMBP that seems insane. Are there any numbers on how good Crystalwell 5200 is? Caged posted:The only thing specific to Safari is that it blocks flash by default, but there's no doubt a Chrome extension which will do this. The system keeps track of what apps eat the battery anyway so you'll be able to see if Chrome is behaving. In my experience Chrome eats RAM more than it eats CPU so I wouldn't expect the battery figures to be that different between them once power hungry plugins have been disabled. japtor fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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I've posted this question before, and I always get answers, then something happens and I'm not able to upgrade. This time I'm super serial! I have a 15" MacBook Pro 8,2. I want to put an SSD in it. I am still undecided if I want to replace my optical drive with my HDD, but I think I would want 256GB from the SSD regardless. What are my best options? Any specific brands/models I should be looking at?
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Samsung is my default answer for SSDs these days, wait for others to chime in for sure here but I'm assuming this one should be fine: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726/
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phosdex posted:I don't know if the price will go up but expect the student discount to go down. Like right now the discount is only $50 on MBA but up to $200 on MBP. I assume once the new MBPs are released the discount will be $50. A few pages back, but you can actually get $100 off a new MBA with a student discount. When I got my Air a month ago, I went to the store since shipping times were too delayed and my other laptop was dead. They stock a maxed out Air (i7, 8GB, 512GB) which when rung up with a student discount gave me $100 off. It surprised the salesman too.
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japtor posted:Samsung is my default answer for SSDs these days, wait for others to chime in for sure here but I'm assuming this one should be fine: There is an SSD thread in SHSC. However the EVO is a good choice with the PRO being much better. Check to see what the price difference is, if the PRO isn't much more, go with it.
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The first Geekbench scores for the 15" rMBP are in the database now. Looks like this year’s maxed out 2.6 Ghz model is a whole 5% faster than last year’s 2.8 Ghz model. All chips have the same TDP, so there should be zero improvement in heat dissipation and battery life. Looks like I will regret waiting for the Haswell refresh, but oh well, at least I got some cheap extra SSD storage out of it. 
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eames posted:The first Geekbench scores for the 15" rMBP are in the database now. It was never about getting that much more out of the CPU in performance. As it has been stated several times .. Haswell is about power savings for mobile devices.
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Anyone have any ideas when the new rMBP will be available in Mexico? Right now the Apple store says all models (except old 13") not currently available 
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I know Apple always claims a "small number" of machines experience issues, but I would love to see how many machines are in for a SSD swap given the amount of time for the repair part to come in. It seems like it has to be significant given how long the wait is.
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clockworx posted:I know Apple always claims a "small number" of machines experience issues, but I would love to see how many machines are in for a SSD swap given the amount of time for the repair part to come in. It seems like it has to be significant given how long the wait is. Most of the Mac forums are full of people with the issue in the last few months.
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I have a 2012 11inch Air with the 128GB Toshiba SSD and LG display. Never had a single issue with either. Holy poo poo, I finally got lucky with a purchase! *knocks on wood*
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I have a 2012 11inch Air with the 128GB Toshiba SSD and LG display. Never had a single issue with either. Holy poo poo, I finally got lucky with a purchase! I hope you keep your Time Machine backup up to date. 
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chupacabraTERROR posted:I have a 2012 11inch Air with the 128GB Toshiba SSD and LG display. Never had a single issue with either. Holy poo poo, I finally got lucky with a purchase! I bought an open box '12 rMBP on Amazon and it had a Samsung SSD and display with zero ghosting issues. I feel like I won the lottery 
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eames posted:The first Geekbench scores for the 15" rMBP are in the database now. Haswell gets the battery life improvements mainly because the whole design was changed to focus on power savings for things such as how it reacts to how CPU high use conditions.
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Finally ready to upgrade my 2010 Air. I'm debating the 13inch rmbp or the 15inch rmpb. Was debating going to the 15inch since I tend to read/view a couple of things at once. Not sure of the net benefit here considering the the native resolutions are equivalent. I've noticed I like bigger text - I tend to zoom things in on the Air. Is there a comparison of the power of Iris Pro to Iris? I notice I get a lot of Swap Used and Page outs. In 3 days it's been about 3gb for each. I'm considering upgrading to 16gb on this purchase -- would this be overkill? I guess I'm glad I waited because of the battery life improvements -- I wonder if the battery life stats of the new pros factor in Mavericks.
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All depends on your use but 8GB is more than enough unless you really abuse the laptop. Also another factor is how much you actually haul the laptop on a daily basis, the 15" form factor is much more clunky and heavy.
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Will it spoil me posted:gently caress, I was really excited to replace my aging 2010 MBP, but the rMBP has so many features removed that the pricepoint is unjustifiable. No disc drive or even ethernet port on a 1500 dollar machine is ridiculous. Having a disc drive when I need it is incredibly handy, and carrying around that plug-in thing is super awkward and defeats the purpose of the sleek design. Almost none of the parts like the battery, SSD, or ram replaceable which removes a large amount of control I'd have. This thing is like a Rolls Royce circa 1940 with a locked engine cover and a stated horsepower as "sufficient." Just, damnit. This probably wont change going forward. People were against floppy drives disappearing as well back in the day. Most people just don't use them, and it's just a cost savings point from both support and the bottom line when it comes down to it. I've got four laptops between here and work, and in the past 13 years I haven't ever had to open one up to install/replace anything. I have burned some CDs and DVDs for sure, but it's not something that I would require to be built-in any longer. The biggest thing I miss is the serial ports for plugging into switches and such, but the USB adapters these days are generally less clunky than they were 10 years ago.
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etalian posted:Also another factor is how much you actually haul the laptop on a daily basis, the 15" form factor is much more clunky and heavy.
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dino. posted:You speak SO MUCH truth. The 15 inch macbook pro retina is heavier than it looks. Plus, from a hardware perspective, the base 15" rMBP does not make a lot of sense. Less storage than the 13" (too little, at least for me), same amount of RAM and it costs $200 more. Of course it is a quad core machine but I don't think that a ton of folks would realize the performance benefits...
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Just pulled the trigger on the $1,499 rMBP (got it with a $100 government discount). Hopefully I won't return it within the return period. So excited for my first Mac. 
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Question about Iris: Does the speed of the CPU affect GPU performance with Iris, or is it like a set GPU on the same dye?
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Are the CPU upgrades for the new 13" rMBP worth it? I'm between a 13" Air and a 13" rMBP (8gb/256gb), and leaning toward the rMBP since it's only like $60 more expensive now with the base CPU. Blah blah blah, Adobe PS/ID/Illustrator/some Premiere CC, some dicking around with XCode, would I notice any difference between the CPU options? Obviously, nobody's gotten to real-world test these yet but ballpark it for me based on the Ivy Bridge ones and the benchmarks that are already out. I just wanna know if the difference between a bunch of dual-core CPUs that all turbo to roughly the same place would be tangible.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Question about Iris:
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Are the CPU upgrades for the new 13" rMBP worth it? I'm between a 13" Air and a 13" rMBP (8gb/256gb), and leaning toward the rMBP since it's only like $60 more expensive now with the base CPU. The difference between the two i5's should be pretty similar. I went with the 2.6 upgrade because it brought the price to roughly the same as I had already planned on spending on the now-old rMBP. The i7 does have an extra MB of L3 cache, I don't know what that would actually translate to in performance. If you're doing real PS work I would think upgrading to more ram would be better. phosdex fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Are the CPU upgrades for the new 13" rMBP worth it? I'm between a 13" Air and a 13" rMBP (8gb/256gb), and leaning toward the rMBP since it's only like $60 more expensive now with the base CPU. My feeling is that the rMBP 13" CPU upgrades are going to be trivial improvements; by the time you actually do hit a performance wall with the lower tier CPU options, that wall is going to be so high that higher tier CPU's from the same generation won't provide you with any protection from needing to upgrade.
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