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Prices for 993's make me think they're classics already.
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InitialDave posted:Not sure. I don't right this minute, but I suspect the whole "last of the air-cooled" thing will give them some cachet in the future. I think they're just not old or uncommon enough to be considered classics yet. Go back another fifteen years, and yes, I do. Late-eighties Turbos are the image I always have in my mind as to what a 911 is, because those were the hot poo poo when I was a kid. 993's are more valuable where I live than 996's. Take that as you will, I think they're already considered classics by a lot of people.
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Oct 24, 2013 23:29
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I think that's the case everywhere, because 996s are considered near-garbage as far as 911s go. The random and very expensive catastrophic engine failures probably contribute to that. Even the '78-'89 SC and Carreras go for more than a non-turbo 996. Photo unrelated.
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Oct 24, 2013 23:33
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You call that torque? THIS is torque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q7yDsy96Fw
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Oct 24, 2013 23:37
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BoostCreep posted:He got super lucky there weren't any cars next to him.
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Oct 24, 2013 23:48
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InitialDave posted:
Video of this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=17a_1382454285
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Oct 25, 2013 00:18
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Was that on the Autobahn?
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Oct 25, 2013 00:26
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Autoroute, more like. They're speaking French.
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Oct 25, 2013 00:34
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InitialDave posted:Not sure. I don't right this minute, but I suspect the whole "last of the air-cooled" thing will give them some cachet in the future. I think they're just not old or uncommon enough to be considered classics yet. Go back another fifteen years, and yes, I do. Late-eighties Turbos are the image I always have in my mind as to what a 911 is, because those were the hot poo poo when I was a kid. Spend some time on Pistonheads, you'll see the 993 is definitely on the way back up, price-wise. They were also the last 911 to built like a brick shithouse (ie before Wiedeking realized you could make 911s cheaply but charge lots for them and therefore make a lot of money), plus the greybeards love aircooled engines. drgitlin fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Oct 25, 2013 01:45
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BoostCreep posted:I saw a pristine first gen Honda Prelude yesterday. And I mean pristine. The little bits of discoloration on the paint are just pollen or dirt. Not a scratch on this thing. Even the wheels were perfect. I was going to get a picture of the immaculate interior but people started staring at me for drooling over a ~35 year old japanese car. That's amazing, I still want to own a 1st gen Prelude some day. I've only ever seen one locally and despite being dirty was actually in pretty good shape.   My favorite part of your photoshoot was that passerbys probably thought you were nuts for being more interested in a faded old Honda than the shiny new Porsche right behind it. Probably the same reaction people had to me going nuts over the 1st gen Lude Eva Mendes drove in The Place Beyond the Pines when it was intended to be a lovely old budget car.
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Oct 25, 2013 13:13
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piss boner posted:He's here all night, folks. Try the veal and remember to tip your waitress. I see your STI Police car and raise you a STI Police wagon.  
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Oct 25, 2013 15:36
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SuperDucky posted:I see your STI Police car and raise you a STI Police wagon. I will never understand why people call any generation of WRX hatchback a wagon.
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Oct 25, 2013 17:27
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Here is a big dump of pictures from my iPhone from the past few months: At the Manhattan car club for the Jalopnik film fest pre-party    Absolutely mint 80's Celica   1 block down, an even minter first gen accord! I love the "5 Speed" badging.    Stealth Twin Turbo, never see these anymore!    Genuine Porsche 356, show quality parked at a sandwhich shop on long island.       Rolls   F430  Old Chevy Truck  Nice. Not sure about those pink camo decals though...  Bone stock mint FD manual I spotted in downtown Minneapolis   First RS5 I've seen in the wild      Incredible 1936 Oldsmobile, the best part is the camry next to it is almost the exact same color.   Daimler I spotted in NYC  
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Oct 25, 2013 18:59
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DropShadow posted:I will never understand why people call any generation of WRX hatchback a wagon. Voltage posted:Rolls 
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Oct 25, 2013 19:23
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SuperDucky posted:I see your STI Police car and raise you a STI Police wagon. This isn't actually a police car ("Eureka" was a TV Series on Sci-Fi).
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Oct 25, 2013 20:14
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MikeyTsi posted:This isn't actually a police car ("Eureka" was a TV Series on Sci-Fi). A super lovely tv show.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:22
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 They're pretty catholic in their selections: 
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Oct 25, 2013 20:57
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MikeyTsi posted:This isn't actually a police car ("Eureka" was a TV Series on Sci-Fi). It's also a WRX and not an STI.
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Oct 25, 2013 21:38
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But does it become a STI if you keep pigs in it?
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Oct 25, 2013 22:02
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DropShadow posted:I will never understand why people call any generation of WRX hatchback a wagon. To the average American, hatchbacks have 2 doors and wagons have 4. The same way people think a coupe must have 2 doors and a sedan must have 4.
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Oct 25, 2013 22:11
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BoostCreep posted:To the average American, hatchbacks have 2 doors and wagons have 4. The same way people think a coupe must have 2 doors and a sedan must have 4. This is 100% correct. At least, that's what all that meant when I was a kid 20-30 years ago. Probably why a lot of manufacturers just call them "5-ddors". e: typos.
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Oct 25, 2013 22:49
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The previous generation 5 door is a sportwagon, not a hatchback, the rear overhang is too long.
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Oct 26, 2013 01:53
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BoostCreep posted:To the average American, hatchbacks have 2 doors and wagons have 4. The same way people think a coupe must have 2 doors and a sedan must have 4. So a 5-door Golf is a wagon?
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Oct 26, 2013 03:20
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Leperflesh posted:So a 5-door Golf is a wagon? To the average American? Sure. But there are always exceptions to a rule. The lack of a window behind the rear doors would probably push that into hatchback territory, but the WRX hatch would without a doubt be considered a wagon.
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Oct 26, 2013 04:25
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InitialDave posted:Not sure. I don't right this minute, but I suspect the whole "last of the air-cooled" thing will give them some cachet in the future. I think they're just not old or uncommon enough to be considered classics yet. Go back another fifteen years, and yes, I do. Late-eighties Turbos are the image I always have in my mind as to what a 911 is, because those were the hot poo poo when I was a kid. How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible.  Air cooled Porsches for life! Edit: sorry for the poor-quality picture.
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Oct 26, 2013 06:32
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655321 posted:How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible. Where can you get those 80s style posters? IMO a garage isn't a proper garage unless it's got an old calendar full of big-haired women in oddly-shaped swimwear.
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Oct 26, 2013 06:45
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BoostCreep posted:To the average American, hatchbacks have 2 doors and wagons have 4. The same way people think a coupe must have 2 doors and a sedan must have 4. Wagons have to have four doors because if they don't then they're shooting brakes  But seriously, stop saying what the average American does and doesn't know.
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Oct 26, 2013 06:58
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655321 posted:How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible. I just jizzed.
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Oct 26, 2013 07:09
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Some dumbass at a party once called my 2 door GTI a 'minivan'
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Oct 26, 2013 07:46
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For the longest time I have hated how they refer to a hatch as a door. It's not a door, people are not supposed to come out of there unless they were shagging!
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Oct 26, 2013 08:17
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front wing flexing posted:Wagons have to have four doors because if they don't then they're shooting brakes Why? After almost 33 years of living here I think I have a pretty firm grasp on it.
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Oct 26, 2013 08:24
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655321 posted:How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible. Gorgeous and perfect, I'd love to see more pictures.
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Oct 26, 2013 14:16
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655321 posted:How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible. 36k! Holy moley, that's absolutely lovely.
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Oct 26, 2013 14:55
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BoostCreep posted:Why? After almost 33 years of living here I think I have a pretty firm grasp on it. Well, for one thing, wagons do have four doors. The two door wagon thing stopped in the 70s.
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Oct 26, 2013 14:58
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Wrong thread lol sorry everyone.
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Oct 26, 2013 15:06
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Walking around Shanghai, I came across a Porsche Carrera Cup safety car outside a fancy hotel.
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Oct 26, 2013 15:08
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Pham Nuwen posted:Where can you get those 80s style posters? IMO a garage isn't a proper garage unless it's got an old calendar full of big-haired women in oddly-shaped swimwear. I know lots of the tool manufacturers have them still but they're going to be current. I don't know where to get the 80's style stuff. These posters were my dad's and I put them up in my garage as kind of an homage with the added benefit of making the 930 feel comfortable. Actually, if you want the old-school posters you should probably check a repair shop or a machine shop that's been around for a long time and see if they'd hook you up with some of the older posters. My machine shop is loaded with them and I don't think anyone has ever taken one down since we opened the building. It's perfect turbo weather in Phoenix so I will take it out for a spin and grab some more pictures. To be honest, though, hearing it is really about the best way to experience this thing aside from driving it. I'll see about making a little recording.
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Oct 26, 2013 21:32
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You need to post more about that 930. I got a ride in one once - one of my dad's friends had a white 930 (complete with white leather interior and white Fuchs) here in Phoenix as well. This was probably 15 years ago but when he brought it home, he came to show it off and took each of us on a quick ride around the block. To this day I still remember that thing kicking like a mule once the turbos spooled up.
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Oct 27, 2013 01:38
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655321 posted:How about a 1985 Euro-spec 930 with 36k miles? Yes, I know, the 80's chick posters are old and maybe tacky, but you know, 80's. It looks bone stock but I've done quite a bit of performance-related upgrading making sure to keep everything as original as possible. Oh my goodness, I like your car a lot. Someday I want to own a post 77 but not watercooled one.
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Thanks, guys! I certainly like it a lot but I really didn't expect others to get excited about it. I will take some proper pictures this week and post some of the details. This car's story is kind of cool so it will probably be interesting. Iowncalculus: was the one you got a ride in that white 930 with the twin turbo setup? If so, I am pretty sure I know the car you're talking about having seen only a couple of them locally. I think Patrick Motorsports built one of them and I'm not sure about the other. When the SR-51 was first opening years and years ago the AZ Porsche owners' club somehow convinced the local authorities to let us have the whole empty freeway for a day and we had a kind of impromptu 930 shootout which was just insanely fun. That will for sure never happen again... perfect timing I suppose. Mine has the supple tan leather inside with black carpet and accents. It has never been rained upon other than the day I picked it up at the port in Houston, never had any food in it, and I've never allowed anyone to wear perfume in it so it literally smells and feels like a new car. I have kept mine in the stock configuration (no TT conversion) but I've upgraded the forced induction system, had custom headers and exhaust (BB 935 headers and exhaust), added a monster intercooler, and a micro-fueler. Luckily I registetred it as a classic so I don't have to go through emissions anymore because although it looks stock, as soon as it starts you know that it doesn't belong on the street. I will say for sure that I have driven a lot of powerful and amazing cars but this thing is just different. Like you said, when the turbo hits... there's no feeling in the world like it. You can hear the turbo from a mile away. The exhaust and turbo upgrades have really reduced the lag; when I first got it it was definitely noticeable but any more its pretty smooth up until the point where it just blows your brains out. There's just something about driving a car that you know is trying to kill you.
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