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Can I be the one to say, as much as loved Odo in most episodes, watching him gently caress the the female changeling over and over while screwing over people he otherwise cared about sort of went against his character and ruined him for me. It was a case of what where the writers thinking? SPOILING because we still have people watching through BEST TREK: The Series
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rypakal posted:This reminds me of old macs, which could have the power button stop responding during a lockup. Old macs, hell, I just replaced the Dell in my office a week ago and it would do that. It'd bluescreen, and if I dare hit the power button it'd stay bluescreened, one of the fans would come on and speed up and speed up and speed up and speed up until I panicked and yanked the cord out of the power supply. I'm not sure I ever heard that fan in nrmal operation, either. e: Watching 3rd season of TNG; The Survivors. Good tea. Nice house. Phy fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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Oct 26, 2013 16:54
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Star Trek fans never react as you'd expect
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Oct 26, 2013 16:58
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Carnaticum posted:warp core not responding The Logitech warp core containment driver is no longer compatible with your version of Windows. Would you like to check the subspace network for updates? [yes] [no] > YES Checking Windows store... No updates found.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:18
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"It looks like you're trying to negotiate a treaty!"
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Oct 26, 2013 17:19
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:
Clippy and the Enterprise AI are on the same AI spectrum, but on opposite ends. Clippy ---> Regular A.I. that can pass the Turing Test ---> Enterprise AI
* Example: Picard: Computer! Maximum zoom! Enterprise A.I.:  *knowing full well that "maximum zoom" would just be a single molecule on the enemy hull, gives instead 6.6% zoom.*
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Oct 26, 2013 17:29
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The best thing about the Root Beer video by a considerable margin is Garak subtly reminding Quark that his homeworld has just been wrecked and Quark just straight up not even noticing in the face of lost potential earnings. So loving great. It's the little things that stand DS9 apart.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:37
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This creepy alien with a grudge against Quark in "Melora" has a weird thing over his mouth. What would be the evolutionary cause for something like that. Did his ancestors eat too much so they evolved a thing over their mouth to make it harder to eat? Is that even how evolution works? Who knows. It's Star Trek, gently caress it. This episode is kind of bad so I'm trying to distract myself.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:52
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apophenium posted:This creepy alien with a grudge against Quark in "Melora" has a weird thing over his mouth. What would be the evolutionary cause for something like that. Did his ancestors eat too much so they evolved a thing over their mouth to make it harder to eat? Is that even how evolution works? Who knows. It's Star Trek, gently caress it. This episode is kind of bad so I'm trying to distract myself. Don't watch "Melora".
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Oct 26, 2013 17:55
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Evan Carlos Somers posted:'Zero-gravity sex with Bashir' was a prime element to the story in my mind. Ugh, gently caress, what a bad episode.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:12
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"Zero sex with Bashir" would have been a much-needed improvement.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:18
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apophenium posted:What would be the evolutionary cause for something like that. Did his ancestors eat too much so they evolved a thing over their mouth to make it harder to eat? Is that even how evolution works? Who knows. It's Star Trek, gently caress it. Maybe there's some sort of horrible predator on their planet who kills you by jumping right into your mouth and eating you from the inside out. Mouth flap keeps 'em out!
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Oct 26, 2013 18:21
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Carnaticum posted:Oh got tech support for the Enterprise would be a nightmare. "Oh you did? Well lets do it again anyways." ... "That worked? Great. I'll close the ticket now. Is there anything else I can help you with?"
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Oct 26, 2013 18:28
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Luigi Thirty posted:After TNG ended and Voyager started up and Berman couldn't micromanage both DS9 and VOY so he focused on Voyager with Michael Piller and let Ron Moore more or less run DS9. Eh, the credit goes more to Ira Steven Behr. Moore only became a co-executive producer in season 6, as I recall.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:57
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apophenium posted:This creepy alien with a grudge against Quark in "Melora" has a weird thing over his mouth. What would be the evolutionary cause for something like that. Did his ancestors eat too much so they evolved a thing over their mouth to make it harder to eat? Is that even how evolution works? Who knows. It's Star Trek, gently caress it. This episode is kind of bad so I'm trying to distract myself. Imagine how hard it must be for him to yawn!
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Oct 26, 2013 19:13
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apophenium posted:This creepy alien with a grudge against Quark in "Melora" has a weird thing over his mouth. What would be the evolutionary cause for something like that. Did his ancestors eat too much so they evolved a thing over their mouth to make it harder to eat? Is that even how evolution works? Who knows. It's Star Trek, gently caress it. This episode is kind of bad so I'm trying to distract myself. I believe the aliens in that TNG episode where the Enterprise has to tow away the radioactive barge had the same thing. Not the design department's best effort.
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Oct 26, 2013 19:32
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The thing that set DS9 apart for me besides the great characters and acting was O'brien. Just knowing that at some point O'brien will be getting severely hosed over in some capacity in every season made it all the better.
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Oct 26, 2013 19:35
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Carnaticum posted:Can I be the one to say, as much as loved Odo in most episodes, watching him gently caress the the female changeling over and over while screwing over people he otherwise cared about sort of went against his character and ruined him for me. It did sort of make sense when you remember he is hanging out his own people and a major point of his arc was him deciding what side he was on, The Federation or Founders.
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Oct 26, 2013 19:44
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bobkatt013 posted:It did sort of make sense when you remember he is hanging out his own people and a major point of his arc was him deciding what side he was on, The Federation or Founders. Forget sort of, it made perfect sense. It also illustrated the dangers of the Great Link itself and thus why Odo was so different from the other founders. It's kind of childish to go WHAT WERE THE WRITER'S THINKING just because you like a character and he does a thing you don't like.
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Oct 26, 2013 20:01
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Sanguinia posted:Forget sort of, it made perfect sense. It also illustrated the dangers of the Great Link itself and thus why Odo was so different from the other founders. He also was becoming addicted to it and ignoring everyone else for the high of being with another founder. Once he realized how badly he hosed up he did everything in his power to make up for his previous mistake. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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Oct 26, 2013 20:06
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bobkatt013 posted:He was was becoming addicted to it and ignoring everyone else for the high of being with another founder. Once he realized how badly he hosed up he did everything in his power to make up for his previous mistake. Also, the weird period after they  actually gently caress in their solid forms was supremely uncomfortable and totally necessary to the story.
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Oct 26, 2013 20:52
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Bicyclops posted:I have some problems with Ferengi because early on they are uncomfortably reminiscent of some racist Jewish caricatures. I really don't think it's intentional. It probably slipped in unconsciously from the early pulp sci-fi that the writers were obviously so in love with, plus once they get to Quark, they try to turn it around into a joke about unbridled capitalism. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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Oct 26, 2013 22:12
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Just finished "The Uniform" I kept waiting for the part where Sisko announced that he had actually tricked Eddington and that he hadn't poisoned an entire planet. It never came.  edit: I just see Ferengi as modern day libertarians.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:17
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Skeesix posted:Also, the weird period after they I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. It was supremely uncomfortable by design and it was indeed totally necessary to the story. It was the first step of Odo realizing how much he'd screwed up and a critical catalyst for him to examine the mistakes he'd made that led him to that point.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:32
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Orange_Lazarus posted:I just see Ferengi as modern day libertarians. There's a pretty strong central authority at work there for a Libertarian state.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:42
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Orange_Lazarus posted:Just finished "The Uniform" They're not libertarians though. They follow a very strict code of business conduct (at least among Ferengi) and everyone's scared as hell of their regulatory agency.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:54
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If anyone should be compared to libertarians, it would be the Maquis.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:57
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DrSunshine posted:If anyone should be compared to libertarians, it would be the Maquis. I'd say that they're space Native Americans, but TNG decided that space Native Americans should be an actual thing. I don't think you can just choose a planet and declare it "spiritual" guys. Why was this a thing?
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Oct 27, 2013 00:10
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Luigi Thirty posted:They're not libertarians though. They follow a very strict code of business conduct (at least among Ferengi) and everyone's scared as hell of their regulatory agency. I figure the regulatory agency started as one of many "certifying agencies" or something like that, and over the years had bought out or merged with others until it was the only game in town. Combine that with collusion among big business interests, and it's not at all hard to see how what might have started as a small "private" company now acts as an enforcer for the Ferengi elite's interests.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:21
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 quote:The next time you watch TOS—especially if it’s a really serious episode—just remember that somewhere in the Enterprise, at all times, there is an enormous balloon decoy of the ship. JUST IN CASE.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:35
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The balloon Enterprise features prominently in John M. Ford's "How Much For Just The Planet?" which everyone should read because it's a legitimately great Star Trek novel for more reasons than just that.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:48
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Why wouldn't balloons work in space? 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I figure the regulatory agency started as one of many "certifying agencies" or something like that, and over the years had bought out or merged with others until it was the only game in town. Combine that with collusion among big business interests, and it's not at all hard to see how what might have started as a small "private" company now acts as an enforcer for the Ferengi elite's interests. It's explicitly stated as part of the Ferengi government and enforcer of Ferengi trade law. Its agents are all-powerful. There's a historical equivalent in China but I don't remember what they're called.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:56
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Why wouldn't balloons work in space? There's no reason why they wouldn't! The material simply has to be strong enough to contain the internal force of the expanding gas without any external atmospheric compression to aid it.
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Oct 27, 2013 01:06
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A space suit is literally a person-shaped balloon with an outer casing to keep it person-shaped.
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Oct 27, 2013 01:53
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hailthefish posted:A space suit is literally a person-shaped balloon with an outer casing to keep it person-shaped. I was going to mention that but it sounded too patronizing in my own mind.
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Oct 27, 2013 03:25
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a travelling HEGEL posted:"Try to"? Their name comes from the Arab word for white people. They've always been supposed to be an exaggerated version of the West. Persian word for white people, unless I'm mistaken. It's cognate with the English "foreigner." EDIT no it's actually cognate with the word "French," my mistake. Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Oct 27, 2013 |
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Oct 27, 2013 03:34
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bobkatt013 posted:He also was becoming addicted to it and ignoring everyone else for the high of being with another founder. Once he realized how badly he hosed up he did everything in his power to make up for his previous mistake. Yeah, it also helps sell the Changling backstory. To the Founders, nothing but the Great Link matters; the Dominion only exists as a kind of min/maxing system to keep solids from cutting into their goo time.
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Oct 27, 2013 03:40
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Apollodorus posted:Persian word for white people, unless I'm mistaken. It's cognate with the English "foreigner." The First Crusade was mostly made of French nobles so the term for Franks became applied to whitey in general.
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Kai Tave posted:The balloon Enterprise features prominently in John M. Ford's "How Much For Just The Planet?" which everyone should read because it's a legitimately great Star Trek novel for more reasons than just that. I remember reading that for the first time when I was a kid and didn't understand comedy. The entire novel seemed so strange because I was waiting for fisticuffs that never came. I do remember enjoying the ending though, where pretty much every bridge offer on the Enterprise and several Klingon soldiers get into a massive pie throwing fight. Then Spock shows up, Kirk asks for a pie, and gets hit by a dozen. I bet if I dug it out and read through it today I'd appreciate it a lot more.
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