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I can never play smash with items off. The chaos and luck is part of the charm. I tried to fool myself at one point and say that it helped give my friends a chance (I owned the game so obviously I played it the most) but in reality I ended up getting skilled at keeping them away from items and grabbing them myself, so I just ended up winning even more.
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It's not as if an unskilled player can beat a more skilled player with items anyway. It all just reeks of someone who played against their younger brother and lost because they weren't half as good as they thought they were.
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Oct 26, 2013 16:39
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It's been a while since I played Smash Bros., but I remember it not really requiring skill to be good at it. From what I remember, it was mostly a rock-paper-scissors thing where each character had strengths and weaknesses and that character selection had more to do with it than actually being good. Then again, my experience with Smash Bros. is from playing in the school lounge where I was easily one of if not the gooniest student. Regardless, anyone who takes Smash Bros. seriously is a terrible person.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:20
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MizPiz posted:It's been a while since I played Smash Bros., but I remember it not really requiring skill to be good at it. From what I remember, it was mostly a rock-paper-scissors thing where each character had strengths and weaknesses and that character selection had more to do with it than actually being good. Then again, my experience with Smash Bros. is from playing in the school lounge where I was easily one of if not the gooniest student. My friends have a rule of "don't take loving diddy kong" because his super move will usually knock at least three lives off all of his opponents. dogstile fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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Oct 26, 2013 17:46
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MizPiz posted:Regardless, anyone who takes Smash Bros. seriously is a terrible person. If you make a joke even lightly suggesting this in the Smash Bros thread, especially in reference to items, you will get bitched out for like three solid pages. It's amazing.
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MizPiz posted:It's been a while since I played Smash Bros., but I remember it not really requiring skill to be good at it. From what I remember, it was mostly a rock-paper-scissors thing where each character had strengths and weaknesses and that character selection had more to do with it than actually being good. Then again, my experience with Smash Bros. is from playing in the school lounge where I was easily one of if not the gooniest student. Not really. While there is definitely knowing what moves work against what opponents a lot of it is dodging your opponent, which requires skill and knowledge. It is essentially like any other fighting game except without the intricate button combinations.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:47
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Playing with or without items is a good metric for determining if someone is a worthwhile person. Ditto taking the game seriously. How seriously people take that game loving astounds me.
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Oct 26, 2013 17:58
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SpookyLizard posted:Playing with or without items is a good metric for determining if someone is a worthwhile person. Ditto taking the game seriously. How seriously people take that game loving astounds me. Nintendo doesn't like those people either.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:08
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There's something pretty special about comp Smash players. Competitive video game players can get pretty spergy and awful (the fighting game community in particular has a bad reputation for being abusive), but Smash players far and away are the worst. There's also that competitive Pokemon player who got kicked out of a hotel for literally throwing he own poop.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:24
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Can we not have the Smash derail? I'm so sick of watching people try to skirt the line between loving the game and not taking it too seriously so they don't get lumped in with the obsessed fucktards. I feel griefed by the thread. The golden age of Melee is gone, everyone just let it go.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:38
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When brawl first came out, I went over to a good friends to play it (me being a person who does not own any nintendo products made past 1998.) He had two friends from his marching band days over, one of which was under the skinny neckbeard category. Being forced to use a wii controller, I resorted to the tried and true tactics of letting everyone else kill each other and running away. After a couple games of this, neckbeard was becoming incredibly angry that I wasn't diving into the middle of every map to get whomped on. I won a few times through survivalist tactics, and he was enraged to the point where he left after a few games. Don't remember if he bitched about items or not.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:39
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Smash Bros. can be a lot of fun with no items and competitive rules. There's some legitimate good times to be had there, it's unfortunate that there's a large segment of that population that will go to public play rooms or parties and snarl at anyone who so much as mentions turning on Items. That's the same guy who enters Pokemon competitions full of little kids that wanna battle with their Butterfree or whathaveyous, and brings his or her max level super optimal maxed EV uber team. Just don't be That Guy and you're probably cool.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:42
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Segmentation Fault posted:There's something pretty special about comp Smash players. Competitive video game players can get pretty spergy and awful (the fighting game community in particular has a bad reputation for being abusive), but Smash players far and away are the worst. This isn't really griefing, but one of the best smash players, Mew2King, is a real piece of work. He once stayed at a random person's house during a tournament, where he proceeded to leave cum stains on the cot he was sleeping on. Later at some point he traveled to Japan with only $200, planning to make money in money matches(illegal in japan). He proceeded to vomit all over his host's $200 futon the first night.
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Oct 26, 2013 18:46
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I feel like less of a human being after reading that.
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Oct 26, 2013 19:27
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Renegret posted:I feel like less of a human being after reading that. To err is human, to cover your host's cot in jizz and vomit, divine.
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Oct 26, 2013 20:24
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That SS13 courtroom scene is something else. I'm surprised it stayed that controlled though.
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Oct 26, 2013 21:42
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TheSpiritFox posted:Can we not have the Smash derail? I'm so sick of watching people try to skirt the line between loving the game and not taking it too seriously so they don't get lumped in with the obsessed fucktards. I feel griefed by the thread. The golden age of Melee is gone, everyone just let it go. Would you rather go back to griefing people with playing cards? At least this is video games.
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Oct 26, 2013 23:53
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Griefing people that can reach out and punch you is the most dangerous game.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:01
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Indeed. Samej posted:Most annoyances aside, the overall worse experience I've ever had in tabletop would have to be during last years LGS 40k tournament. I was playing my 1000 point Necron army and my brother had his Chaos Space Marines.
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SynthOrange posted:Indeed. No lie, if I were in the same situation I'd steal the gunmans expensive plastic army mans too.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:13
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That is pretty apt for a game where the supposed ultimate super soldiers can fail to hit an enemy 6 foot in front of them then die to being punched.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:19
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Holy poo poo, I always assumed people online were full of poo poo but I guess they would shoot you IRL if they could.  ^^lol^^
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Oct 27, 2013 00:19
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SynthOrange posted:Indeed. I love how it highlights the fact that his '<$60 worth of plastic' army mans disappeared rather than the fact that he, you know, pulled out a goddamn gun with the intent to kill.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:22
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umalt posted:I love how it highlights the fact that his '<$60 worth of plastic' army mans disappeared rather than the fact that he, you know, pulled out a goddamn gun with the intent to kill. Hahahaha, if only it was $60. If only. 
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Oct 27, 2013 00:25
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umalt posted:'<$60 worth of plastic' army mans You don't know Gamesworkshop Prices very well I see.   Just one of those hover tanks in the back costs $50
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umalt posted:I love how it highlights the fact that his '<$60 worth of plastic' army mans disappeared rather than the fact that he, you know, pulled out a goddamn gun with the intent to kill. I actually think it was just intent to maim, making it even dumber, there's no way in hell he was trying to kill him if all he hit was the owners hand.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:26
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Did he shout 'Blood for the Blood God'?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:You don't know Gamesworkshop Prices very well I see. SovietSteel posted:Hahahaha, if only it was $60. If only. Oh I know how overpriced GW makes their army dudes, I'm just saying that if you melted down the plastic they're made of you wouldn't even get $60.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:27
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He was obviously firing inside melee range, that's a huge penalty. And the disappearing army bit nudges it from 'attempted murder' into 'attempted murder plus grief'.
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Oct 27, 2013 00:27
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He did what most modern gamers will claim to do when they lose/get mad at you: kill you in real life for losing at a game.
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codenameFANGIO posted:Holy poo poo, I always assumed people online were full of poo poo but I guess they would shoot you IRL if they could. I think I remember an episode of NCIS or something where two navy guys playing Everquest or something and ended up having a sword fight and one of them died.
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Episode ended when he respawned?
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So, a few years back I worked on a game called "World in Conflict". It was a fun RTS where you didn't have to bother collecting resources or anything like that - you just had a pool of points to buy units. When those units died, the points slowly trickled back into your pool. Every Friday, we'd package up the latest build, put it on the network and we'd play studio-wide multiplayer matches. Also, because it was Sweden we'd drink beer. That's not really relevant to the story but it adds some authenticity. Anyway, we start playing and I notice that a ton of people are picking infantry. During that part of the dev cycle, infantry was pretty weak, so hardly anyone would pick it. What I didn't know, is that the programmers had just checked in a new feature - infantry units were now able to hide in buildings. Four or five infantrymen could pack into a building and be essentially invulnerable - the only way to kill them is to level the building, which takes a ton of firepower, and the infantrymen's bazookas could easily cut down any approaching tanks. Even if you called in an artillery strike, they'd just run to a new building while the shots were in the air. Well, no big deal, right? They hadn't using any debug commands to cheat or anything, right? So, next round I go with infantry to try it out only to discover that the "hiding in buildings" feature was so hot-off-the-presses that it didn't have a UI element to click on - the only way to use this new ultimate infantry strategy was to use an undocumented hotkey. The best part is that, the following week, a tuning pass was made on the hidden infantry so they weren't nearly as deadly while hidden in buildings... so everyone who tried to use last week's exploit got whooped on. It definitely paid to have friends in a few different departments. TheSpiritFox posted:Can we not have the Smash derail? I'm so sick of watching people try to skirt the line between loving the game and not taking it too seriously so they don't get lumped in with the obsessed fucktards. I feel griefed by the thread. The golden age of Melee is gone, everyone just let it go. BlueDestiny posted:It's the same reason why people don't just mute voice chat if they're getting harassed or join a different server or something.  )
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kirbysuperstar posted:I think I remember an episode of NCIS or something where two navy guys playing Everquest or something and ended up having a sword fight and one of them died. I've watched all seasons up to 7 and I don't remember it. It was either that or Law & Order Criminal Intent.
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Lunethex posted:I've watched all seasons up to 7 and I don't remember it. It was either that or Law & Order Criminal Intent. Found it - Season 1, Episode 4: http://ncis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Immortals_(episode)
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Tardcore posted:I actually think it was just intent to maim, making it even dumber, there's no way in hell he was trying to kill him if all he hit was the owners hand.
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Lunethex posted:I've watched all seasons up to 7 and I don't remember it. It was either that or Law & Order Criminal Intent. Season 1: Episode 4. "The discovery of a drowned sailor in dress whites, with an officer's ceremonial sword and weights chained to his waist, sparks a suicide investigation and eventually sends the team to the USS Foster so that they can dig into the deceased officer's life and find out what his colleagues thought of him. Kate refuses to believe that the deceased sailor committed suicide as, like her, he came from a Catholic family where suicide is a mortal sin. Meanwhile Abby discovers a link between the crew of the USS Foster and an MMORPG known as 'The Immortals', and begins searching the game for clues and evidence in order to assist Gibbs in solving the case."
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It is one of the funniest episodes ever. I'm not sure if it's the same but there's another where McGee is falling hard for a girl who has her name on the leaderboards of all the games he plays, oh my gosh you have the top score?!  I have a "griefing" story of a new game called Marvel Puzzle Quest for the phone. It isn't a direct grief because you can't actively PVP live people, but someone has 3 chances to PVP an AI controlled version of your team. My team is Storm, Bullseye (a hawk eye knockoff) and Hawkeye. They're all uncommon characters that I've fully leveled, and they work like this: If anybody matches Purple tiles, Bullseye creates a special shield tile that blocks a decent amount of damage from hitting my characters If there's more than X number of purple tiles on the board, Hawkeye will outright dodge all attacks if somebody else is still left on your team to tank them If an enemy managed to deal more than X% damage of any of my hero's health to them, she hits all enemies for a huge chunk of health immediately Alongside that the characters have powerful attacks that cause damage to all enemies. The common thing I've seen is people blasting a bunch of heavy attacks from heroes that all need the same color AP (matching tiles means you actually collect that number of tiles and spend them on skills), so my team is a complete loving jerk. Match purple? Oops sorry that's a shield for me. Don't match purple? I have enough on the bored, I dodge. Hit me? Oops that was too hard all your heroes lose 1/5th their health. Oh and my red arrow attack hits your whole party for 120 damage and Bullseye just created a critical tile that dealt 930 damage to your strongest guy and he's dead now. The reason it works so well is that the AI is often dumb, but all my key abilities are automatic. So the AI only has a few abilities to choose from and they pick them as soon as they're available, and since there's no overlap between colored abilities that means the AI can use all the super strong moves whenever it can. It makes people maaaad 
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That's another episode. Said video game is also used by an arms dealer to distribute shopping lists or some dumb bullshit to clients. Or hacking software or something like that. NCIS is fantastically, fanatically dumb.
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death .cab for qt posted:Alongside that the characters have powerful attacks that cause damage to all enemies. The common thing I've seen is people blasting a bunch of heavy attacks from heroes that all need the same color AP (matching tiles means you actually collect that number of tiles and spend them on skills), so my team is a complete loving jerk. Match purple? Oops sorry that's a shield for me. Don't match purple? I have enough on the bored, I dodge. Hit me? Oops that was too hard all your heroes lose 1/5th their health. Oh and my red arrow attack hits your whole party for 120 damage and Bullseye just created a critical tile that dealt 930 damage to your strongest guy and he's dead now. Ooops my Storm hit your Storm and it's a feedback loop in which everyone loses.
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