vyelkin posted:

You can't post this one without some of the s the LL fans came up with:

vyelkin posted:

You can't post this one without some of the s the LL fans came up with:

Fulchrum posted:

Any discussion of the Southern Strategy needs to include this.

http://conservapedia.com/Southern_strategy

The Southern strategy is something that happened. It is not racist. This concludes all information on the Southern Strategy.

quote:

The Southern strategy is a path to the White House by winning support in the South rather than the media centers of Boston and New York City.

Liberals, repeatedly unpopular in the South, have tried to attribute this strategy to racial politics. The reality is that liberals have always played the racist card far more often than Republicans do.

Sir Rolo posted:

Obamacare

De Nomolos posted:

I have a cousin who has started posting those "Liberal Logic 101" things. I want to say something, but I want to keep the peace. I mean, he basically helped save my father-in-laws life after his own father was killed and he's one of the only family members who took our side in a dispute over inheritance and is a real stand-up, honest guy with two awesome sons and admittedly used to be a Democrat until the gun control thing heated up (he has another uncle who's a local elected official who's a Dem) and the ACA passed in 2010 and he was scared to bring it up (this is Appalachia we're talking about). I chalk it up to him living in a town of about 5,000 that's over an hour from anything resembling a city, with no non-white people to be seen.

Peer pressure accounts for a good deal of the average person's politics.

seiferguy posted:

I went to a private HS and my history teacher was a Harvard grad. Historically our students did twice as well as the mean average for HS students on the AP exam. Still no mention of Southern Strategy, though. I think it's more indicative of what the AP exam wants which is useless facts, with the essay being the only thing testing critical reasoning.

I did take a post-1865 US history class in college and it was never discussed there either.

De Nomolos posted:

I have a cousin who has started posting those "Liberal Logic 101" things. I want to say something, but I want to keep the peace. I mean, he basically helped save my father-in-laws life after his own father was killed and he's one of the only family members who took our side in a dispute over inheritance and is a real stand-up, honest guy with two awesome sons and admittedly used to be a Democrat until the gun control thing heated up (he has another uncle who's a local elected official who's a Dem) and the ACA passed in 2010 and he was scared to bring it up (this is Appalachia we're talking about). I chalk it up to him living in a town of about 5,000 that's over an hour from anything resembling a city, with no non-white people to be seen.

Peer pressure accounts for a good deal of the average person's politics.

stan worship posted:

I guess those folks are really banking on being the only source of information for their readers, because every time I've ever googled "southern strategy" I've come across the remarks Lee Atwater made about who it targeted:


I redacted the slur, since I'm not sure it would be okay to post it uncensored, but it really speaks to what caused the south to defect to the GOP so quickly in that time period.

e: beaten to the punch!

VideoTapir posted:

Don't redact it, he sure didn't.

VideoTapir posted:

Also, the response to the Atwater quote is to claim that he was taken out of context and that he was really talking about what the Democrats do.

miscellaneous14 posted:

The Southern strategy is a path to the White House by winning support in the South rather than the media centers of Boston and New York City.

VideoTapir posted:

Don't redact it, he sure didn't.

Also, the response to the Atwater quote is to claim that he was taken out of context and that he was really talking about what the Democrats do.

quote:

Q: But [Reagan’s] not going to lose the south if he goes along with what the blacks want on voting rights, is what you’re saying?

A: That should be a thrust of his. In 1968, the whole southern strategy that Harry and those put together, the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the south. Now they don’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the south is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964. And that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cutting taxes, you know, the whole cluster, and being tough on national defense.

Q: But might there–I’m not saying that he does this consciously–but the fact is that he does get to the Wallace voter, and to the racist side of the Wallace voter, by doing away with legal services, by doing away with, cutting down on food stamps–

A: Here’s how I would approach that issue as a statistician, a political scientist–or no, as a psychologist, which I am not, is how abstract you handle the race thing.

In other words you start out in - now y’all don’t quote me on this – you start out in 1954 by saying friend of the family, friend of the family, friend of the family. By 1968 you can’t say friend of the family, that hurts, there’s a backlash, so you say stuff like forced busing, states rights and all that stuff. And you’re getting so abstract now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all of these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it, I’m not saying it. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, then we’re doing away with the racial problem one way or another. You follow me? ‘Cause obviously sitting around saying, we want to cut taxes, we want to cut this, and we want–is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than friend of the family, friend of the family. So any way you look at it, race is coming on the back burner.

myron cope posted:

Let's just switch the names of the parties right now. Democrats are now Republicans, Republicans are now Democrats.

Would the now-Democrats still say THE DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE KKK

Of course not. They'd be sure to tell you how the parties actually switched.

_{Only they would do it without a hint of self-awareness.}

Strudel Man posted:

Isn't it that he was talking about perceptions, rather than intentions? I've heard that before, at any rate. It's hard to really make out a lot of the audio.


He seems to be talking about race becoming less of an issue in politics, at least in part. It's a response to a question about whether Reagan is trying to appeal to racist voters by talking about cutting food stamps or whatever. And the answer that he gives is along the lines of "Well, maybe so. But even if it's the case, the veiling of it through these economic things is a step away from explicitly racial politics."

stan worship posted:

What's so strange, is it's not even like it matters, ultimately. Yeah, the GOP is the party of Lincoln. It's also the party of Benjamin Harrison, who promised to end Reconstruction in exchange for the House Democrats letting him win the 1876 election when it was too close to call. African Americans in the south were immediately buried under Jim Crow for the next 80-90 years. The Plessy v. Ferguson case was decided by 8 justices, only two of whom were Democratic appointments. Jim Crow laws were upheld 7-1 in that case. If it was only Democrats who were "the real racists", that case should have gone 6-2 for overturning segregation.

The guys coming up with these image macros pointing out that the early KKK voted Democratic, and stuff like that put way too much stock into the actual parties, and gloss over the voting blocs that were really to blame for all the racism in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

I realize that's the point of them doing this - I just dislike the deceptiveness.

TinTower posted:

And That Student Was Albert Einstein: The Movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

In theatres 2014!

quote:

A liberal muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor and abortion doctor was teaching a class on Karl Marx, known atheist

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Jesus Christ!”

At this moment, a brave, patriotic, pro-life Navy SEAL champion who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all military decision made by the United States stood up and held up a rock.

”How old is this rock, pinhead?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied “4.6 billion years, you stupid Christian”

”Wrong. It’s been 5,000 years since God created it. If it was 4.6 billion years old and evolution, as you say, is real… then it should be an animal now”

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Origin of the Species. He stormed out of the room crying those liberal crocodile tears. The same tears liberals cry for the “poor” (who today live in such luxury that most own refrigerators) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from the deserving job creators. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, DeShawn Washington, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a sophist liberal professor. He wished so much that he had a gun to shoot himself from embarrassment, but he himself had petitioned against them!

The students applauded and all registered Republican that day and accepted Jesus as their lord and savior. An eagle named “Small Government” flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was read several times, and God himself showed up and enacted a flat tax rate across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of the gay plague AIDS and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.

Semper Fi.
p.s. close the borders

TinTower posted:

And That Student Was Albert Einstein: The Movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

In theatres 2014!

BonoMan posted:

"Science supports his existence!"



Wait. What?

BonoMan posted:

"Science supports his existence!"



Wait. What?

BonoMan posted:

I interpret it not as "the veiling of it through these economic things is a step away from explicitly racial politics." and more as "this is a way to thinly veil racist ideals as a more widely palatable platform."

TinTower posted:

And That Student Was Albert Einstein: The Movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

In theatres 2014!

Plutonis posted:

Is that Kevin Sorbo as the liberal professor? I know he has been in hard times lately but still

Plutonis posted:

Is that Kevin Sorbo as the liberal professor? I know he has been in hard times lately but still

Strudel Man posted:

Isn't it that he was talking about perceptions, rather than intentions? I've heard that before, at any rate. It's hard to really make out a lot of the audio.


He seems to be talking about race becoming less of an issue in politics, at least in part. It's a response to a question about whether Reagan is trying to appeal to racist voters by talking about cutting food stamps or whatever. And the answer that he gives is along the lines of "Well, maybe so. But even if it's the case, the veiling of it through these economic things is a step away from explicitly racial politics."

AShamefulDisplay posted:

He was also in Alongside Night which is basically Atlas Shrugged for teenagers.

Plutonis posted:

Is that Kevin Sorbo as the liberal professor? I know he has been in hard times lately but still

Ramadu posted:

Willful misinterpretation of the Higgs-Boson, the "God Particle" maybe?

Plutonis posted:

Is that Kevin Sorbo as the liberal professor? I know he has been in hard times lately but still

Sir Rolo posted:

gradenko_2000 posted:

Why would the French blush at a hat that they themselves use?

gradenko_2000 posted:

Why would the French blush at a hat that they themselves use?

VideoTapir posted:

Atlas Shrugged is Atlas Shrugged for teenagers.