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Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


counterfeitsaint posted:

Every time a billionaire dies, his or her unearned wealth is equally redistributed and the world gets a little better.

I'm pretty sure it just means that a gallon of milk would end up costing $5,000.

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Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Gonz posted:

Hey, now. That's sounding a little space communist-y, comrade.

Minsk.

P.S. We're never ever getting off this rock because we're going to piss it all away on iPads and teledildonics

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Tighclops posted:

Minsk.

P.S. We're never ever getting off this rock because we're going to piss it all away on iPads and teledildonics

I could think of worse ways to go than teledildonics.

TOOT BOOT
May 25, 2010

Waterslide Industry Lobbyist posted:

From a few pages back, but the company I work for is building this:



The money is coming from outside investment companies, but King Abdullah is a big Trek fan and probably had a lot to do with there even being a Trek attraction. Paramount is doing the design work for it and it's based off JJ Trek's aesthetics.

Shame it won't have any bathrooms.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.


Hold on, let me ask Keiko.




Apparently we're moving to Osaka :qq:

Gau
Nov 18, 2003

I don't think you understand, Gau.
Hey thread people, where is this image from, and where can I find a larger version?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Definitely fan-made.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

You would need a lot more than four pieces of scaffolding to hold that deflector array up while you attach it to the engineering superstructure. Who's running this job site?! Why isn't that man wearing a properly-coloured hardhat! This isn't OSHA-compliant! I'm filing a complaint with the union!!

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
In our glorious socialist future, all work is voluntary, therefore the entire planet is an at-will employment zone. :smug:

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

You would need a lot more than four pieces of scaffolding to hold that deflector array up while you attach it to the engineering superstructure. Who's running this job site?! Why isn't that man wearing a properly-coloured hardhat! This isn't OSHA-compliant! I'm filing a complaint with the union!!

Too bad, OSHA does not exist in the Federation, as millions of nameless red and yellow shirts can attest to. I mean, even on their most advanced warships, designed to destroy the Borg, a plasma conduit connected to the very impulse drives themselves can accessed simply through basically a cat-door flap.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
Spot is a fully certified plasma conduit technician :colbert:

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

You can access the plasma conduits through a cat door?!

Gau
Nov 18, 2003

I don't think you understand, Gau.
I had a dream last night about a new Star Trek show that was somewhere between that weird animated series pitch and the middle bits of Accelerando (or Down & Out in the Magic Kingdom). Red shirts died and it was totally okay because they just woke up in Sickbay the next morning.

And it won't ever happen.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Gau posted:

Hey thread people, where is this image from, and where can I find a larger version?



Which ship is that supposed to be again? I can't find a registry number. :v:

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
In the prime universe Tiberius Kirk established space OSHA. He also whipped the Utopia Planitia crews into shape, catching an error that would have delivered Enterprise components to the middle of Iowa.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
Why are they painting it before they have all the hull plates on?

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!

Shadeoses posted:

Spot is a fully certified plasma conduit technician :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7zbL2uBfko

The plasma conduit door in this episode is just an absurdly flimsy thing! No wonder things are constantly exploding and frying people, if this is the safety standard on Starfleet ships!

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009
My absolute favourite workplace safety hazard in Star Trek was when that first Borg drone beamed into engineering. The first line of defense was sending that rookie yellow shirt security guy to go grab the Borg, and he promptly gets thrown across the room. Is there a right to refuse unsafe work when viable alternatives include lasers and force fields?

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Bucswabe posted:

My absolute favourite workplace safety hazard in Star Trek was when that first Borg drone beamed into engineering. The first line of defense was sending that rookie yellow shirt security guy to go grab the Borg, and he promptly gets thrown across the room. Is there a right to refuse unsafe work when viable alternatives include lasers and force fields?

That's such a great 'the poo poo rolls downhill' scene. Picard signals to Worf to take care of it, who then signals to Rookie McYellowshirt to take care of it. Not with his phaser, but by actually walking over there and physically restraining the space zombie. Only after that fails then Worf decides to shoot it.

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Clearly, because the Enterprise is the best of the best even the expendable nobodies are gung ho kool aid drinkers and charge headlong at danger despite knowing that they're wearing a season 1 uniform in season 5 and were dead as soon as that Klingon beamed into the room.

The rest of the fleet is more like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khyzj5toqwA when word comes down for Burly Redshirt to get thrown across the room by an alien.

Reset Smith
Apr 6, 2009
So for some reason (boredom) I am watching through Voyager for the first time. And I just came to the first episode with the Hirogen aliens and I had to laugh out loud at their portrayal. They are just so over the top SPACE-EVIL it made laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. Let's run down the checklist, gravely voice, black armor, 7-feet tall, messed-up skin, dim lighting, spikes EVERYWHERE on their costumes (look like Shredder), and BONES everywhere on their ship and ALL they talk about is hunting people down to steal their bones. Apparently they want to attack Voyager so they can steal the bones of the crew to make trophies, that's novel I guess?
For some reason it was these guys who broke my suspension of disbelief in this show. They just feel like they came rolling out of a bad Saturday morning cartoon, and even in that context they would have been eye-roll worthy. Their culture seems to be centered entirely around hunting, and everyone is either hunter or prey. Off the top of my head I remember a DS9 episode from season 1 that had aliens with a similar ideology. More than that it just feels like THE most tired and clichéd attribute to give the new baddies. I mean if Voyager was campy or fun I might think they are a pastiche of evil aliens from other Star Trek series, but Voyager's not really that show. Worst of all, at the end of the episode Tuvok says something along the lines of, "Wow, those guys sure were dangerous and we'll definitely be seeing more of them." :psyboom:

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Reset Smith posted:

So for some reason (boredom) I am watching through Voyager for the first time. And I just came to the first episode with the Hirogen aliens and I had to laugh out loud at their portrayal. They are just so over the top SPACE-EVIL it made laugh at the ridiculousness of it all. Let's run down the checklist, gravely voice, black armor, 7-feet tall, messed-up skin, dim lighting, spikes EVERYWHERE on their costumes (look like Shredder), and BONES everywhere on their ship and ALL they talk about is hunting people down to steal their bones. Apparently they want to attack Voyager so they can steal the bones of the crew to make trophies, that's novel I guess?
For some reason it was these guys who broke my suspension of disbelief in this show. They just feel like they came rolling out of a bad Saturday morning cartoon, and even in that context they would have been eye-roll worthy. Their culture seems to be centered entirely around hunting, and everyone is either hunter or prey. Off the top of my head I remember a DS9 episode from season 1 that had aliens with a similar ideology. More than that it just feels like THE most tired and clichéd attribute to give the new baddies. I mean if Voyager was campy or fun I might think they are a pastiche of evil aliens from other Star Trek series, but Voyager's not really that show. Worst of all, at the end of the episode Tuvok says something along the lines of, "Wow, those guys sure were dangerous and we'll definitely be seeing more of them." :psyboom:

The Hirogen are great, shut your mean jerk face :(

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Sanguinia posted:

The Hirogen are great, shut your mean jerk face :(

They're seriously the least awful aliens on Voyager. The Ocampa, the Kazon, the Vidiians, the dinosaur people, Species 8472.. those all make zero loving sense at all, but at least the Hirogen are moderately consistent and sensible.

Circutron
Apr 29, 2006
We are confident that the Islamic logic, culture, and discourse can prove their superiority in all fields over all schools of thought and theories.
You will find, as you go through Voyager, you will come to cherish the lesser evils as balms from Heaven.

What I'm saying here is get out now.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

hailthefish posted:

at least the Hirogen are moderately consistent

IIRC their height varies depending on the budget / direction / editing of the episode, or of the distance from their first appearance as the show's pervasive apathy field slowly turns them to poo poo.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
You can not unsee when you realize the Hirogen were wearing armor that looks like beat up parts from a 1980s Datsun Sunny.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Doesn't Tony Todd play a Hirogen at some point? The gravelliest-voiced legally-distinct and non-copyright-infringing space white hunter.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Whenever I try to picture what the Hirogen looked like I just remember them in Nazi uniforms and give up.

Reset Smith
Apr 6, 2009

Data Graham posted:

Whenever I try to picture what the Hirogen looked like I just remember them in Nazi uniforms and give up.

Wait, seriously? No way that spoiler is real.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

I gotta finally start watching Voyager one of these days.

elcapjtk
Mar 14, 2005
Some people say I am a terrible person.

Reset Smith posted:

Wait, seriously? No way that spoiler is real.

Totally real.

Wungus
Mar 5, 2004

The best bit about the Hirogen is that you could imagine Rita Repulsa happily existing on their ship and she wouldn't look the least bit out of place.

That, and finally another humanoid species that isn't the exact same size as humans.

Vengeance of Pandas
Sep 8, 2008

THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!

Reset Smith posted:

Wait, seriously? No way that spoiler is real.

Never doubt how stupid Voyager can get.

http://i.imgur.com/YenobH2.jpg

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
So, so many Nazi planets out there in the Milky Way.

Hundreds, perhaps.

Gau
Nov 18, 2003

I don't think you understand, Gau.

Vengeance of Pandas posted:

Never doubt how stupid Voyager can get.

http://i.imgur.com/YenobH2.jpg

The blatant use of tinfoil behind the swastika there just cracks me up.

3/5 of the Trek series have legitimate Space Nazis. This is a thing.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Gonz posted:

So, so many Nazi planets out there in the Milky Way.

Hundreds, perhaps.

It wasn't a Nazi planet.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

It wasn't a Nazi planet.

Oh, I know. I was just making a general statement.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

It wasn't a Nazi planet.

It was a Nazi galaxy.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Reset Smith posted:

Wait, seriously? No way that spoiler is real.

Yup. The Hirogen took over Voyager between episodes in season 4 and extended the Holodeck to most of the ship, where they ran a Nazi-occupied France around the time of the D-Day invasions sim. The crew, except for The Doctor and Harry Kim were all brainwashed into thinking they were their respective characters. The Doctor was basically made to fix up any of the crew that got hurt, while Kim was left out because gently caress that guy.

edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 29, 2013

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HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Apollodorus posted:

Explain what you mean by "deeply written," please.
The labor union episode of B5 displayed a level of understanding of the sort of stuff that would go into running a space station/spaceship in the near future that you usually don't get in Star Trek. In comparison, Star Trek's treatment of similar subjects, as on DS9, looks kind of cartoonish. Both shows are simplified, of course, otherwise they wouldn't be interesting--we're here to see a plot, not an exact replica of what life would actually look like on a spaceship.

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