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Doltos posted:Man you must work in procurement or something. Actually, NFL contracts are basically just form contracts with numbers plugged in. This is because the NFL and the NFLPA hammer out most material issues whenever they renegotiate the CBA: http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResources/files/PDFs/General/2011_Final_CBA_Searchable_Bookmarked.pdf You can see the contract on page 273. It's nearly indistinguishable from any form contract you'd come across.
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Disillusionist posted:At least they don't need a quarterback (I assume they're sticking with Pryor?). I count 7 teams currently picking ahead of them that probably need a quarterback. If you assume 4 quarterbacks are taken before them they have the chance to take the #11 player on their board at worst if they stick to pure BPA. They traded their 5th round pick for Matt Flynn(lol) and have an extra 6 or 7 from the Cards but other than that they're all set.
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Emanuel Collective posted:Actually, NFL contracts are basically just form contracts with numbers plugged in. This is because the NFL and the NFLPA hammer out most material issues whenever they renegotiate the CBA: In the business world we call that Task Orders. You have an overall agreement with a contract and then you release task orders pursuant to the contract for specific efforts. Both the CBA and the form contracts attached to the CBA are still considered contracts. It really is just semantics though since the word 'contract' invokes an unbreakable document in peoples' minds. In reality a contract is just an agreement entered into by at least two entities that is legally binding. So if you go against the contract, odds are both parties will make efforts to amend the contract in order to keep it legally binding. I can only think of one instance in my company where someone did a total breech of contract that led to a lawsuit.
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Okay I know this is boring to everyone so this is the last I'll post on this.Doltos posted:Man you must work in procurement or something. Emanuel Collective posted:You can see the contract on page 273. It's nearly indistinguishable from any form contract you'd come across.
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euphronius posted:Can't see the Rams keeping Bradford with two low picks like that. I would see what the deal is with Marquise Lee's knee in postseason drills and Sammy Watkins, and I'd also look at the linemen coming out since Jake Long has been awful. Although this is the team that drafted Jason Smith, so.... well... maybe they should be careful. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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pangstrom posted:Okay I know this is boring to everyone so this is the last I'll post on this. Maybe I'm getting older or maybe it's because I deal with contracts every day for eight hours a day but I like discussions about them. I don't really think it's a joke because you're correct, I'm just explaining why player contracts are still considered contracts.
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Lazerbeam posted:Who's that? I think that's Wilfork.
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Please get this thread back on topic. I'm glad some of you are interesting on contract chat but it's not the focus of this thread.
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Ozu posted:Hey guys let's see how mind numbingly dull we can make bewbies' awesome NFL Draft thread. That's what sort of happens when the draft is in April and we're talking about it in October.
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As a Bucs fan, what gets to be my "Suck for Luck" mantra to repeat as the season goes on? Be Bad for Bridgewater? Mess Up for Mariota? Choke for Clowney?
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WampaLord posted:As a Bucs fan, what gets to be my "Suck for Luck" mantra to repeat as the season goes on? Fire Schiano
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Declan MacManus posted:Fire Schiano But he actively wants to tank though
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Doltos posted:But he actively wants to tank though I'd love it if we went 0-16, the Jags sneak a win in there somehow, and Schiano gets fired literally minutes after Week 17 ends. Honestly, I'd like him to get fired ASAP, but I understand that it probably won't happen till the end of the season cause of the Glazers.
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WampaLord posted:As a Bucs fan, what gets to be my "Suck for Luck" mantra to repeat as the season goes on? Get ready for Teddy Get down for the Clown
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I'm going to be so mad* when an 0-16 season doesn't net the #1 pick for what's shaping up to be historically the worst team of all time. Dammit, Bucs, why can't you win one stupid game!  *(Not actually mad, but it'd be a little frustrating.)
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xeria posted:I'm going to be so mad* when an 0-16 season doesn't net the #1 pick for what's shaping up to be historically the worst team of all time. Dammit, Bucs, why can't you win one stupid game! The Bucs on talent still rate to be something around a .500 team or a little below and they've already had some ridiculous clownshoe losses, it's pretty hard to imagine them actually losing out even as poorly coached as they are.
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jeffersonlives posted:The Bucs on talent still rate to be something around a .500 team or a little below and they've already had some ridiculous clownshoe losses, it's pretty hard to imagine them actually losing out even as poorly coached as they are. The Bucs are such a failure this year that they will fail at being failures and win a couple of games. I could see us winning against Miami, Buffalo, or St. Louis. Any one of those teams could collapse in a way that gives the Bucs a win. 2-14 is probably the absolute best we could do realistically when I look at our schedule. With the Jags I see no potential for a win at all. Maybe the Texans if literally every first stringer died? WampaLord fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Doltos posted:Man you must work in procurement or something. It's a very easy job. Trust me on this. At least when you do it for an NFL team or a player you're enjoying the subject matter. Try doing it for loving foreclosures and loan modifications. And the NFL job pays like 120k a year Somebody kill me.
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Lazerbeam posted:Who's that? Holy poo poo is that Wilfork? I think it is
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BlindSite posted:Tedford had some pretty big busts: Does anyone else remember that game where Akili Smith looked amazing against the Jets? Then he got hurt again, and promptly disappeared.
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pangstrom posted:I didn't think long and hard about it but I honest to god thought it was Jamarcus Russell About 30 yards too short
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Kim Jong Il posted:Does anyone else remember that game where Akili Smith looked amazing against the Jets? Then he got hurt again, and promptly disappeared. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200112160nyj.htm e: Oh my god he only had 1 game in his career with a Y/A over 6.
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Ozu posted:Looks like he only played 1 game against the Jets and he was 4/6 and was knocked out in the 2nd quarter. And yet I was the only person in the sheep game to call him the biggest bust of all time. He was worse than Leaf. Shame on you all.
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Eifert Posting posted:And yet I was the only person in the sheep game to call him the biggest bust of all time. He was worse than Leaf. Shame on you all. Only Bengals fans care about the Bengals. Also, it's a matter of expectations.
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The Bills are likely going to find themselves outside of the top 10, because their remaining schedule is pretty easy. vs. Kansas City @Pittsburgh vs. New York Jets vs. Atlanta @ Tampa Bay @ Jacksonville vs. Miami @ New England The bolded stretch is looking way softer than it did a month ago. That's a stretch of six games vs. opponents currently at or under .500, and most of them have no hope of even reaching .500 before playing the Bills. It is difficult to conceive of the Bills finishing with less than six wins, and quite conceivable they could end up with as many as eight. As far as early needs projections go... S - With the Bills seemingly unwilling to make Jairus Byrd the richest safety in the NFL(and Byrd seemingly unwilling to settle for anything less), the Bills will have big hole to fill in their defensive backfield, as they can't franchise him forever. CB - Although Stephon Gilmore is an amazing corner, the depth leaves a lot to desire. McKelvin is average-at-best as a #2 CB, and no one else on the roster is capable of playing outside. G - While RG Kraig Urbik is fairly good, LG Doug Legursky is below-average, and there is no depth at the position. RT - Erik Pears has been a major liability against even half-way decent pass-rushes for his entire tenure here, and neither Chris Hairston nor Zebrie Sanders show signs of supplanting him. TE - Scott Chandler is a decent TE, but he's not a threatening receiver outside of being a big body and he can't block for poo poo. OLB - The Bills have a number of strong role-players here(Manny Lawson has been a beast against the run and Jerry Hughes has done well as a rush linebacker), but no real 3-down OLB, which leaves them vulnerable in no-huddle situations. Kurgarra Queen fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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AAA DOLFAN posted:It's a very easy job. Trust me on this. At least when you do it for an NFL team or a player you're enjoying the subject matter. Try doing it for loving foreclosures and loan modifications. It's not that it's a hard job, it's monotonous and boring.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:vs. New York Jets I believe there's been some sort of mistake.
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sirtommygunn posted:I believe there's been some sort of mistake.
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Lazerbeam posted:Who's that? AAA DOLFAN posted:Holy poo poo is that Wilfork? I think it is It is indeed Wilfork. But on topic: WampaLord posted:I'd love it if we went 0-16, the Jags sneak a win in there somehow, and Schiano gets fired literally minutes after Week 17 ends. Honestly, I'd like him to get fired ASAP, but I understand that it probably won't happen till the end of the season cause of the Glazers. xeria posted:I'm going to be so mad* when an 0-16 season doesn't net the #1 pick for what's shaping up to be historically the worst team of all time. Dammit, Bucs, why can't you win one stupid game! Two things to think about. 1 - Its unlikely that any team will go 0-16. Remember, they are both likely to play teams in week 16 that have already secured their playoff seeds. And in the case of Tampa, they could have a mid season coaching change which generally is good for 1-2 wins right after. 2 - If you are going 0-16, the number one pick is pretty much only valuable in trade. You have way too many issues to address and way too many holes in your roster to fix with one guy. Do you think there is anyone in this draft that will draw enough picks in a trade for the first overall that would make up for being that god drat lovely of a team? Probably not. Whats the chances of Nick O'Leary leaving FSU a year early and if he does declare, just what would the demand for him be? Any one have thoughts?
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Danica! posted:Two things to think about. Bucs play the Saints and Jags play the Colts in their final games of the season. The Saints will probably still be jockeying for #1 seed with some combination of Seahawks/49ers/Packers, and the Colts could be doing the same (with Broncos/Chiefs/Patriots). It's just as likely that these are 'real' games (as real as they can be considering how terrible the Bucs/Jags have been) as it is that they're playing backups.
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