|
D1Sergo posted:Baleful Polymorph is a pretty neat choice at least. I'm wondering if lizard-rex is gonna stick around for two books as a pet until they suddenly have a need to drop a tyrannosaurs on someone in the middle of a fight.
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 04:49
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 18:23 |
|
|
fool_of_sound posted:Doesn't seem to be, certainly not with evasion. The counterattack thing and the axe throw also point to something else. Possibly a Tome of Battle class? I'm not familiar enough with them to be able to tell. Given that he's aware of the Dashing Swordsman, he's almost certainly got some obscure overpowered Prestige class.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 05:01
|
|
|
fool_of_sound posted:Doesn't seem to be, certainly not with evasion. The counterattack thing and the axe throw also point to something else. Possibly a Tome of Battle class? I'm not familiar enough with them to be able to tell. Come to think of it, Warblades get evasion and a lot of their benefits are based on Intelligence. I wouldn't have thought Rich would suddenly introduce ToB now, but if Tarquin has evasion it seems more plausible.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 05:03
|
|
|
Oh no, Belkar complimented Elan unironically. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 05:03
|
|
|
Waiting for Sabine...
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 05:41
|
|
|
Is this the first time we've ever seen Tarquin actually pissed off?
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 05:49
|
|
|
That triceratops did not seem to give the remotest hint of a poo poo as it ran Roy through, and that's making me laugh like a madman for some reason. And yeah, Tarkie's gettin' mad. He probably won't live to see page 940.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 07:06
|
|
|
I actually think Tarquin will survive here - there's still a few dangling plot threads that wouldn't get appropriately resolved if he dies in the desert.IMJack posted:Tarquin has Evasion. What the hell is his build? He could have an item that grants acid immunity. Having Evasion would be a bit of a weird build given he's likely running around with a Dex modifier of 0 due to his armour. Carrasco posted:Come to think of it, Warblades get evasion and a lot of their benefits are based on Intelligence. I wouldn't have thought Rich would suddenly introduce ToB now, but if Tarquin has evasion it seems more plausible. I thought they get Uncanny Dodge? I always get those two mixed up anyway. DoctorTristan fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Oct 30, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 07:41
|
|
|
DoctorTristan posted:I thought they get Uncanny Dodge? I always get those two mixed up anyway. You're right, it's Swordsages who get evasion. And he's almost definitely not a swordsage.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 07:58
|
|
|
Clearly Tarquin is only mad because he lost his fricking cool dinosaur. Who wouldn't be?
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 08:12
|
|
|
Man, I love Prismatic Spray. You've got a shotgun blast of magic with a grab-bag of mixed things that can happen to the target, all of them bad.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 08:48
|
|
|
wdarkk posted:I kind of want to see a vignette with the Triceratops on another plane now. Speedball posted:Man, I love Prismatic Spray. You've got a shotgun blast of magic with a grab-bag of mixed things that can happen to the target, all of them bad.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 10:04
|
|
|
Carrasco posted:You're right, it's Swordsages who get evasion. And he's almost definitely not a swordsage. Swordsages. As in, swordsman who are sages, and not, say, fighters who specialize in some kind of sausage-like weapon?
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 10:35
|
|
|
FMguru posted:It's so Gygaxian. Dude loved his tables of random, unbalanced poo poo going off in the middle of gameplay (see also: Wand of Wonder, Potion Miscibility Table) Prismatic Spray is in fact literally Vancian; it is taken directly from Jack Vance's Dying Earth stories.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 10:36
|
|
|
For reference: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/prismaticSpray.htm They're lucky to have been hit by straight damage effects (except the triceratops), which are mitigated by the target having as many hit points as the plot dictates, and not by the insanity/petrification/instakill effects.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 10:39
|
|
|
DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Prismatic Spray is in fact literally Vancian; it is taken directly from Jack Vance's Dying Earth stories.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 10:52
|
|
|
Did Miron just get turned into stone? It looks like he turned into stone.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 11:40
|
|
|
He got zapped with 40 or 80 points of electrical damage.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 11:40
|
|
|
Oh, he looked all gray and stony.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 11:42
|
|
|
Kajeesus posted:Given that he's aware of the Dashing Swordsman, he's almost certainly got some obscure overpowered Prestige class. 3.5e melee specialist prestiges can hope to be barely adequate at best.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 12:10
|
|
|
Tarquin's helmet kind of just disappeared there. I guess cause the look on his face is pretty important. Just kind of funny how it totally vanished between panels.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 13:37
|
|
|
Who else read the title and figured it was Roy dying again?
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 13:38
|
|
|
greatn posted:Tarquin's helmet kind of just disappeared there. I guess cause the look on his face is pretty important. Just kind of funny how it totally vanished between panels. It was falling off in the 9th panel.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 13:40
|
|
|
After all this the order sure as hell should be gaining a level at least (except for Durkon)
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 14:04
|
|
|
My God they've been in the desert for over 300 chapters, that's insane. Tarquin actually is going to die soon then, isn't he?
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 14:16
|
|
|
DoctorTristan posted:I actually think Tarquin will survive here - there's still a few dangling plot threads that wouldn't get appropriately resolved if he dies in the desert. But that's the beauty of it - to defeat him completely is to both deny him a properly climactic death (with witnesses that will tell the story) and to leave his precious plot threads unresolved. Deny him the legacy he's worked so hard to build up and you have done worse than merely killing him. Do it in a narratively sloppy fashion (by leaving tension that is never resolved and Chekhov's Guns unfired) and you get to offend his Bard-like sensibilities on top of that.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 14:39
|
|
|
Nilbop posted:My God they've been in the desert for over 300 chapters, that's insane. This arc really has felt like the endurance round. Things are long, painful, and drawn out, and just when we think it's over: bam, something else to overcome. I'm actually wondering if it's a deliberate move? (It probably isn't, but I want to believe dammit.)
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 15:30
|
|
|
Whybird posted:This arc really has felt like the endurance round. Things are long, painful, and drawn out, and just when we think it's over: bam, something else to overcome. I'm actually wondering if it's a deliberate move? I remember people saying the same thing about Azure City a few years ago. This comic just has a tendency to plant itself in one setting for a few hundred chapters. v  v
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 15:35
|
|
|
I really like how the characters are being put through the ringer. It will be that much more satisfying when they come out on top. I think we've had as many twists and new unexpected attacks as can be reasonable though. This has to be the final battle in desert saga.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 15:46
|
|
|
At least Azure City was fun and interesting, this isn't Party Splitting bad but I'm ready for the north.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 15:46
|
|
|
This is almost the exact moment where the good guys think they've beaten the bad guy, only for the bad guy to impale one of them (Belkar) as he rises, intent on one last round. e: oh no I've joined the ranks of people forecasting Belkar's imminent death.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 16:14
|
|
|
Ian is still out there somewhere. I don't mind sticking with the desert setting for as long as we have but if the gang now deals with Tarquin and then Ian enters the scene and causes more trouble I might change my mind after all.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 16:14
|
|
|
Noah posted:This is almost the exact moment where the good guys think they've beaten the bad guy, only for the bad guy to impale one of them (Belkar) as he rises, intent on one last round. I don't think they think they've won yet. If anything they're feeling pretty desperate and endangered. Tarquin has a pretty good reason to go directly after Belkar though. Belkar has his axe.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 16:32
|
|
|
I love how pissed Tarquin is. His story went from "Evil overlord defeated by his righteous son" to "A bunch of guys ganged up on him, and I guess his son was there too and got in a couple of shots." Doesn't quiet have the same ring to it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 17:12
|
|
|
Zonekeeper posted:But that's the beauty of it - to defeat him completely is to both deny him a properly climactic death (with witnesses that will tell the story) and to leave his precious plot threads unresolved. Deny him the legacy he's worked so hard to build up and you have done worse than merely killing him. Do it in a narratively sloppy fashion (by leaving tension that is never resolved and Chekhov's Guns unfired) and you get to offend his Bard-like sensibilities on top of that. He doesn't even get to be a legend because the official, historical leader of the empire of blood is still a dumb fat dragon.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 17:29
|
|
|
GigaPeon posted:I love how pissed Tarquin is.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 17:40
|
|
|
Blackheart posted:He doesn't even get to be a legend because the official, historical leader of the empire of blood is still a dumb fat dragon.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 18:12
|
|
|
Guys, even if Tarquin, Laurin, and Miron all die here in the desert, none of their stories end. Even with Malack dust in the wind, the remaining two members of Team Tarquin have the resources and motivation to hire some high priest to cast three True Resurrections, which doesn't require a corpse. Nor do the Order, unlike Xykon, have the resources to keep that from happening. Tarquin will be back, sooner or later. Maybe we get a one page coda of Tarquin waking up at home after being brought back from the dead or maybe he just appears when we least expect it and explains in flashback, but either way, dude's not done no matter how this fight goes.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 18:22
|
|
|
jng2058 posted:Guys, even if Tarquin, Laurin, and Miron all die here in the desert, none of their stories end. Even with Malack dust in the wind, the remaining two members of Team Tarquin have the resources and motivation to hire some high priest to cast three True Resurrections, which doesn't require a corpse. Nor do the Order, unlike Xykon, have the resources to keep that from happening. Despite the fact that Rich has openly stated he's never using True Resurrection as a plot device, because it just turns death into a cheap revolving door. Sorry, fanboy. Case in point... Rich Burlew posted:And more to the point, True Resurrection is a terrible, narrative-wrecking spell that should not exist, as it has no real purpose for players who die in battle (as they can almost always be returned via simple Resurrection) and only ever comes in to play to undo plot points. I prefer to simply treat it as "not available" to everyone, and I don't want to waste any panel time explaining why. Simian_Prime fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 30, 2013 |
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 18:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 18:23 |
|
|
Not to mention that clerics who reach a high enough level to cast 9th level spells are exceedingly rare in the comic. Redcloak is probably the only one in the entire world.
|
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2013 18:45
|
|
