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I'm pretty sure after that throw Janet proceeds to hand Hank his own rear end because one of the major sub-plots of the West Coast Avengers is Hank Pym Is Terrible At Super-heroics. And pretty much everything else, but definitely super-heroics.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 16:15 |
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Mr. Maltose posted:I'm pretty sure after that throw Janet proceeds to hand Hank his own rear end because one of the major sub-plots of the West Coast Avengers is Hank Pym Is Terrible At Super-heroics. And pretty much everything else, but definitely super-heroics. Pretty much. Janet utterly wrecks him for two pages until he tricks her by playing dead and tosses her in a hamster ball.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 16:30 |
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Nilbop posted:Is the Wasp seriously aloud to do anything that isn't shacking up with a random guy or dying? Roger Stern made her Avengers leader, had her stop obsessing about men all the time, and had her lead the team through the siege on the mansion. He was going to do the same for Monica Rambeau, and then editorial shut it down. No other writer has ever built on that or even tried. It's a big peeve of mine.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 17:17 |
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Seldom Posts posted:He was going to do the same for Monica Rambeau, and then editorial shut it down. Well, at least we got Nextwave out of her neglect.
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MikeJF posted:Well, at least we got Nextwave out of her neglect. I could read Nextwave basically forever, at least as long as Warren Ellis is writing it.
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Seldom Posts posted:Roger Stern made her Avengers leader, had her stop obsessing about men all the time, and had her lead the team through the siege on the mansion. He was going to do the same for Monica Rambeau, and then editorial shut it down. No other writer has ever built on that or even tried. It's a big peeve of mine. She was reinstated as Avengers leader in the last third or so of Kurt Busiek's tenure (with Scarlet Witch as deputy, no less) and led the team during the Kang War. As for Monica Rambeau, I understand that was because Mark Gruenwald (who was writing Captain America at the time and also, I believe, editing the Avengers) wanted Cap to be leader of the team, which threw out a few years worth of character development and growth for the former (from rookie hero to valued team member to team leader). This understandably bothered Stern, enough so that he left the title in the middle of a story arc.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 18:25 |
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That's basically what happened with the second Kid Quantem post Zero Hour/pre Infinite Crisis. She was a black female, too. She was fantastic in the leader role.
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Metal Loaf posted:As for Monica Rambeau, I understand that was because Mark Gruenwald (who was writing Captain America at the time and also, I believe, editing the Avengers) wanted Cap to be leader of the team, which threw out a few years worth of character development and growth for the former (from rookie hero to valued team member to team leader). This understandably bothered Stern, enough so that he left the title in the middle of a story arc. That adds some new meaning to this panel from Nextwave.
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# ? Oct 26, 2013 18:45 |
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Time for some 80ies! Hank just cracks me up. Source: Uncanny X-Men 242. Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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You know those times in movies when a big group of bad guys attacks the lone hero one at a time and you're like, "Why don't they attack all at once?" Turns out, that's known as the K-11 and that's how the plan is supposed to work. Strange Tales #157
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Uthor posted:You know those times in movies when a big group of bad guys attacks the lone hero one at a time and you're like, "Why don't they attack all at once?" Turns out, that's known as the K-11 and that's how the plan is supposed to work. I think the idea is that too many enemy combatants just make it harder for them to navigate around each other, and they can just outlast him. If they'd attack 2 or 3 at a time and rotate around it'd work a lot better.
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 00:40 |
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I think one at a time works great if you're the eighth or ninth dude to go at him.
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 02:06 |
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eriktown posted:I could read Nextwave basically forever, at least as long as Warren Ellis is writing it. Nextwave is the best superhero group ever. From Nextwave #11:
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 04:22 |
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Cassa posted:I think one at a time works great if you're the eighth or ninth dude to go at him. I've always liked the old joke of one eager guy shouting,"HE CAN'T SHOOT ALL OF US IF WE RUSH HIM!" and then that guy gets shot first.
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 04:23 |
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Did this comic come out before Snakes on a Plane?
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 04:28 |
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Around the same time. At least within 2 years of each other, if not the same year.
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Cassa posted:I think one at a time works great if you're the eighth or ninth dude to go at him. Turns out, Nick Fury just uses it as an opportunity to practice his takedowns while spouting one-liners. Then, something trippy happens. Strange Tales #157 mind the walrus posted:Around the same time. At least within 2 years of each other, if not the same year. Nextwave started in '06 and I think that issue came out January 2007. Snakes on a Plane was August '06.
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Uthor posted:Turns out, Nick Fury just uses it as an opportunity to practice his takedowns while spouting one-liners. Then, something trippy happens. I love Steranko's mindset here. Okay, I'll do a series of panels of Nick beating up dudes and hitting them with one-liner after one-liner after one-liner, just real cheesy stuff AND THEN THE MAD MIND-TRIP OF HORROR BEGINS!
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# ? Oct 27, 2013 11:49 |
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I'm having trouble figuring out the moves in the "Krunch!" , "Whump!", and "Girlscout Cookies" panels are supposed to be.
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Dez Orwell posted:I'm having trouble figuring out the moves in the "Krunch!" , "Whump!", and "Girlscout Cookies" panels are supposed to be. "Krunch" appears to be some swinging-leg boot-to-the-head from a missionary position versus akimbo knives. "Girlscout Cookies" is "Whump"... uh, might be eaither a punch-to-the-headlock, or getting face-planted into the scenery. The real question is the casual thigh-to-the-groin, and how does his leg bend quite like that?
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:"Girlscout Cookies" is Pfft. He's clearly just botching an over the shoulder back-to-belly piledriver. Or a death valley bomb. It's hard to tell. Anyway, Kate Beaton draws Black Canary: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=351
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 17:35 |
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I think SHIELD would be more effective these days if they stopped being the good guy version of HYDRA and busted out the
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TwoPair posted:I think SHIELD would be more effective these days if they stopped being the good guy version of HYDRA and busted out the LSD was the government's answer to EVERYTHING back in the 60's and 70's.
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# ? Oct 29, 2013 20:18 |
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Speaking of LSD, have some PERSPECTIVE Going through these issues, the art range from "Bland" to ""
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 06:28 |
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Did anyone ever ask Peter to come sit down? It's a little awkward talking to a grown man having a pity party because their boss says mean things about them. Their choice to be in the fetal position half way up a 30ft wall really can't be helping.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 08:28 |
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What exactly is Logan doing in that first panel?
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 08:34 |
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Urdnot Fire posted:What exactly is Logan doing in that first panel? He's extending his one claw so readers can identify that he's Wolverine. It's like how you can tell which saint is portrayed on an illustration by the accessories he or she is carrying.
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Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:Did anyone ever ask Peter to come sit down? It's a little awkward talking to a grown man having a pity party because their boss says mean things about them. Their choice to be in the fetal position half way up a 30ft wall really can't be helping. Let's be fair. It's a LITTLE worse than "says mean things about them". Most bosses who do that only have the fifteen or so people in the office to hear, not five million newspaper readers.
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Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:Did anyone ever ask Peter to come sit down? It's a little awkward talking to a grown man having a pity party because their boss says mean things about them. Their choice to be in the fetal position half way up a 30ft wall really can't be helping. Don't some artists run with him just casually hanging out on the wall or corner or roof anyway, so it's not necessarily a pity party thing anymore?
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 08:55 |
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I'm mostly joking, but he's bent over hugging himself, not doing the casual "Spidey squat" hangout pose, and he's way up the wall. It would be like if the fliers in the room insisted on hovering 6ft off the ground at all times. I think it's kind of silly, not in a bad comics way. It's actually a pretty good show of the character's emotion in this case, but it seems like someone in that room would notice, maybe call him on it, or at least it might be funny if they did.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 09:46 |
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Come to think of it, a few of them are doing that. Not flying 6' in the air, but Wolverine is doing his claw thing, Iron Man has a random hologram going on, and god forbid Cap but his shield on the table during a conversation...
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 09:54 |
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Judging by everyone's height while talking to him it looks like Spidey has been slowly sliding down the wall the entire time, like a dog on carpet.
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Elfface posted:Come to think of it, a few of them are doing that. Not flying 6' in the air, but Wolverine is doing his claw thing, Iron Man has a random hologram going on, and god forbid Cap but his shield on the table during a conversation... Cap's holding it down at his side, not that bad. The hologram's basically Iron Man's equivalent of talking to you while texting, pretty rude. Wolverine on the other hand looks like he just lost the claw version of "smell my finger". He's not pointing at anything, there's nothing around that would be appropriate to cut. What the hell is he supposed to be doing? Ghostlight posted:Judging by everyone's height while talking to him it looks like Spidey has been slowly sliding down the wall the entire time, like a dog on carpet. He goes from the middle of the wall to a foot from the corner in between frames while staying in the same body position. I can only conclude he rolled across the wall. That's just the right combination of surreal and "Dammit Parker, have some dignity" that I can't stop laughing.
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Urdnot Fire posted:What exactly is Logan doing in that first panel?
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 11:20 |
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MikeJF posted:Don't some artists run with him just casually hanging out on the wall or corner or roof anyway, so it's not necessarily a pity party thing anymore? Yeah. Romita Sr. (the best Spider-Man artist) has always said that you should never draw Spider-Man just standing around and not stuck to a wall or in a weird pose. Especially during group shots.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 11:25 |
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Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:Cap's holding it down at his side, not that bad. The hologram's basically Iron Man's equivalent of talking to you while texting, pretty rude. Wolverine on the other hand looks like he just lost the claw version of "smell my finger". He's not pointing at anything, there's nothing around that would be appropriate to cut. What the hell is he supposed to be doing? Given what he seems to be standing in front of, I figured he was using his claw to stir cream and sugar into his coffee because there weren't any clean spoons.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 11:44 |
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And if there's one thing Wolverine is afraid of it's unwashed spoons.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 12:24 |
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Have you ever seen him wash those things? (source: some issue of Marvel Adventures Spider-Man)
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 13:19 |
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I want to hear the Green Day song.
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# ? Oct 30, 2013 14:32 |
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Endless Mike posted:I want to hear the Green Day song. That would have been the perfect opportunity for one of those cardboard 45s that you'd occasionally get in Mad magazine.
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