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Trent posted:The Sacred Chalice of Rixx is just an old clay pot with mold growing inside it. I forgot where I heard it from, but supposedly the "Sacred Chalice of Rixx being full of mold" was supposed to be a secret burn on Rick Berman.
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counterfeitsaint posted:On the Vulcan version of SA, I like to imagine there are a bunch of Vulcans posting "God Sarak, that human woman is barely even 25, you loving pedo!" One of the things I liked in the Diane Duane romulan novel I read was the implication that the Vulcans had a sort of telepathic BBS system going on. It was never really elaborated on, but it was an interesting perspective. Of course, she also mentioned Vulcan psi feats well beyond the touch telepathy and such seen in the program, though I think those were limited to specialists.
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Oct 30, 2013 20:16
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Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:What about Trip? Is there a book that ignores or invalidates the events of These Are The Voyages... and brings him back to life? (I assume the answer is "All of them")
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Oct 30, 2013 20:16
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Sounds like the transporter filled them full of transcription errors.
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Oct 30, 2013 20:18
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah, he is still working for Section 31 post Romulan War, and they just put out a new Enterprise book that takes place after the founding of the Federation. Apparently both Archer and Reed used the transporter too much and are now sterile somehow. I thought in the books they reveal that he become the father of T'pol's kids?
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Oct 30, 2013 20:22
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rypakal posted:Uh, unless the men have babies, one baby per Ocampan is still one baby per heterosexual couple. I thought Ocampa offspring burst out of cocoons or something (so much of Voyager is like some half-remembered nightmare) so I didn't think the men having gross chrysalis babies was any more odd than the rest of their physiology v  v
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Oct 30, 2013 20:41
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought in the books they reveal that he become the father of T'pol's kids?
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Oct 30, 2013 20:49
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Wowbagger2004 posted:I thought Ocampa offspring burst out of cocoons or something (so much of Voyager is like some half-remembered nightmare) so I didn't think the men having gross chrysalis babies was any more odd than the rest of their physiology v Well there was that episode where Kes was shooting backwards in time until she became a bad CGI embryo. They kept showing birth scenes where the woman of the couple was live birthing. Through her back. Which made me wonder about sex positions and the spine's role in all this until I realized I was thinking about the reproductive science of a terrible Voyager race.
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Oct 30, 2013 20:51
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Cobalt Chloride posted:Well there was that episode where Kes was shooting backwards in time until she became a bad CGI embryo. They kept showing birth scenes where the woman of the couple was live birthing. Through her back. Which made me wonder about sex positions and the spine's role in all this until I realized I was thinking about the reproductive science of a terrible Voyager race. In your defense, most of the Voyager races are pretty terrible. And the writers definitely said that Ocampas can only breed once in their short, short lives. It was the episode where Kes went into heat and Voyager was a hot new breeding mate on the block for some cosmozoans. I'm at that point in my watchthrough where I face ultimate Bij. "Engaging Transwarp drive in 5..4..3..2.."
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Oct 30, 2013 21:18
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kelvron posted:In your defense, most of the Voyager races are pretty terrible. And the writers definitely said that Ocampas can only breed once in their short, short lives. It was the episode where Kes went into heat and Voyager was a hot new breeding mate on the block for some cosmozoans. Not Talyn Starbusrt?
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Oct 30, 2013 21:21
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rypakal posted:Dr. Whalen in The Big Goodbye. He even survives the gunshot wound. Dude if you keep pointing this poo poo out how are we supposed to reduce Star Trek to a bulletpoint list of recurring phenomena - a collection of "tropes", if you will - that can be easily regurgitated again and again??
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Oct 30, 2013 21:24
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Don't worry that was a 24th century historian my point still holds 
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Oct 30, 2013 21:26
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bobkatt013 posted:The only other historian we saw was the one who betrayed them to bang Khan. Star Trek hates historians. The TNG episode with Matt Frewer had a historian get mugged offscreen
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Oct 30, 2013 21:54
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Threshold is not as cringeworthy as I remember it. Maybe it's the banality of the rest of the early Voyager episodes that's throwing me off. It seems like the episodes are falling into two categories: the scifi episodes that could've fit into any Star Trek series with minor tweaking (spacial anomalies, cosmozoans, first contacts, scientific experiments); and the setting episodes, the ones that showcase the crew interacting with their lot in life, and the effects they're having on that region in space. I vastly prefer the second set of episodes to the first. Then again, Meld is up next, and I have a feeling it's going to force me to revisit my opinions.
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Oct 30, 2013 22:08
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Cobalt Chloride posted:Well there was that episode where Kes was shooting backwards in time until she became a bad CGI embryo. They kept showing birth scenes where the woman of the couple was live birthing. Through her back. Which made me wonder about sex positions and the spine's role in all this until I realized I was thinking about the reproductive science of a terrible Voyager race. If Roddenberry had been alive, there'd have been, like, diagrams and poo poo in the writer's bible. Hell at one point I'm sure he'd have climbed on a conference table with...I dunno watermelon something and demonstrated. "NAW YOU SEE ITS GOTTA BE LIKE THIS YOU SEE WHAT I'M GOING HERE."
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Oct 30, 2013 23:49
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I liked when Kes set things on fire with her mind.
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Oct 31, 2013 01:33
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They never ruled out Ocampans having common multiple births, just said they only have one pregnancy.
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Oct 31, 2013 01:47
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Gonz posted:I always found it odd that characters (who had repeatedly interacted with her) never mentioned that Lwaxana Troi's voice was the voice of every Federation computer. No, no, they based the computer voice on Number One, who had to resign from Starfleet following the debacle on Talos IV and went into voiceover work.
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Oct 31, 2013 02:43
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Apollodorus posted:No, no, they based the computer voice on Number One, who had to resign from Starfleet following the debacle on Talos IV and went into voiceover work. I thought she went into hiding and adopted a new identity as a nurse.
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Oct 31, 2013 02:44
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MikeJF posted:I thought she went into hiding and adopted a new identity as a nurse. A nurse on the only ship they'd never think to look for her in...
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Oct 31, 2013 02:46
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Sanguinia posted:Also it's 100 posts late, but gently caress anybody who doesn't like The Killing Game. If the fact that you have aliens wearing nazi uniforms in it is SOOOOO egregious for you in STAR TREK, the president for life of the ham-fisted metaphors club, that's fine. But don't disparage one of the best things in Voyager because of a relatively aesthetic element that both Enterprise AND TOS did way worse. I admit that my quip about Hirogen in Nazi uniforms was more of a calculated poke of the hornet's nest to see what everyone thought of the episode than a genuine condemnation. I actually enjoyed that set of episodes quite a lot myself, and thought the concept and the execution were both quite good. Plus we got to hear Jeri Ryan singing "It Can't Be Wrong", which was a nice extension of that ongoing arc of Seven and the Doctor bonding over music. 
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Data Graham posted:I admit that my quip about Hirogen in Nazi uniforms was more of a calculated poke of the hornet's nest to see what everyone thought of the episode than a genuine condemnation. SFDebris pointed out something amazing that I never really registered before: The second episode spends almost the whole thing having Seven set up a chekov's gun in the form of a holographic grenade, only for her to trip and drop it, blowing up all their allies, guns and ammo and letting the Nazi's charge in and take them prisoner. It was slightly amazing. Also, Harry Kim having both an important plot related role and a spine all in one package was magical.
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Klingon-Neelix growing some balls and taking charge of those warriors around the campfire was a great moment too. And let's not forget: "Tally-ho" 
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Oct 31, 2013 04:19
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Darn it, you guys, stop talking about Voyager episodes like they're actually good, and making me actually have to go and watch more Voyager!! 
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Oct 31, 2013 05:06
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President Kucinich posted:I forgot where I heard it from, but supposedly the "Sacred Chalice of Rixx being full of mold" was supposed to be a secret burn on Rick Berman. Just to follow up on this, is the joke that Rick Berman is really just a clay pot with some mold inside it? Because I can buy that.
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Oct 31, 2013 05:08
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DrSunshine posted:Darn it, you guys, stop talking about Voyager episodes like they're actually good, and making me actually have to go and watch more Voyager!! It's the good ones that make the bad ones even worse, though. And yeah that ep was kickass, not going to lie. It took risks and broke conventions, unlike most VOY eps.
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Oct 31, 2013 05:45
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DrSunshine posted:Darn it, you guys, stop talking about Voyager episodes like they're actually good, and making me actually have to go and watch more Voyager!! Just watch it. All of it. Make your own judgments on it.
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Holy poo poo, Seven. Hirogen dude has a gun pointed at her, tells her to sing. She refuses. Tuvok: "You are a valued member of this crew. It would be logical to grant his request." Seven: "Logic is irrelevant."  Then, following it: "One day the Borg will assimilate your species. When that day comes, remember me."  Daaaaaaamn, girl! This is a really kick-rear end episode! EDIT: Oh geez, and then there's a twist, and the Nazi hologram dude (who does a really good job with that evil Nazi speech, I have to say) actually convinces the Hirogen subordinate guy to disobey his leader, and the episode is only 2/3rds over aaaahhh EDIT2: KLINGONS VERSUS NAZIIIIIIS!!!!!! EDIT3: Finished! That was a really awesome episode, guys. DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Yeah, if you only ever want to sit through one "Holodeck Run Amok" episode, The Killing Game is the one to pick.
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Oct 31, 2013 06:39
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Yeah, if you only ever want to sit through one "Holodeck Run Amok" episode, The Killing Game is the one to pick. Maybe, in some horrible universe where Our Man Bashir never happened.
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Oct 31, 2013 06:41
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bobkatt013 posted:Not Talyn Starbusrt? That's more  than bij.
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Oct 31, 2013 08:00
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DrSunshine posted:Holy poo poo, Seven. Those Germans were inept, they were overrun by a bunch of klingons who had no projectile weapons. The Nazis in Enterprise were just as bad.
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Spaceman Future! posted:Voyager is actually a much better show when you can basically skip quite a few episodes and pretend they never happened but that 7 of 9 fanservice suit still really bothers me. For most of her life shes wandering around with personal shielding, super human strength, layers of metal armor and nano weapons coursing through her veins. Then, pop, removed from the collective and they spend all this time talking about how disoriented and vulnerable she feels but yet she's still somehow just fine walking around in a giant spandex sock. They abducted her, figuratively and literally stripped her naked and that was the outfit they thought would be appropriate while she reintegrated with humanity? ugh. From the Aisha Tyler podcast episode posted a while back, it sounds like it was a nightmare of a costume to wear, too. The bust padding was some kind of flannel-y material that would get lumpy after a wash, and more than once they'd bring out portable heaters, thinking it was her nipples.
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O'Brien callin her biggie smalls.
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Sad King Billy posted:Those Germans were inept, they were overrun by a bunch of klingons who had no projectile weapons. I always assumed their Klingon armor could stop something as measly as a bullet, especially a WW2 bullet. Also, I like how Klingonified Neelix is still insisting on the importance of eating properly, a Chef to the end. I really wish Neelix had been characterized in a less annoying way because he was such a fish out of water for the standard Star Trek alien with the whole con-man/sherpa/galley chef thingy.
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I wish they had done more with the way Neelix is originally portrayed. He's dirty, crass, a little creepy, and kind of a rogue trader who probably wants to rip everyone off, including the Ocampans before he decided to rail a 2-year-old. But then they sanitize him almost instantly into wearing hideous costumes, a chef's hat, and he becomes borderline useless even before Voyager leaves the sectors he's familiar with. Sure, he got some good moments here and there, but they were usually either by taking him to a completely un-Neelix place and letting him stew or they were mocking him endlessly for being a disliked loser. Neelix: Missed Opportunity #847-2.
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Neelix is tedious. Has anyone had any luck getting the Armada games to work on windows 8/8.1? I was watching some videos, and got nostalgic, but no matter what earlier os I try to get the games to use, nothing works. You clever guys must know something.
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Oct 31, 2013 12:08
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Right click on the shortcut -> properties -> run as administrator and in compatibility mode for Win2000. That's been working on Win7.
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I have been out of he loop for a while but I have to ask, what happened to Aatrek?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I wish they had done more with the way Neelix is originally portrayed. He's dirty, crass, a little creepy, and kind of a rogue trader who probably wants to rip everyone off, including the Ocampans before he decided to rail a 2-year-old. But then they sanitize him almost instantly into wearing hideous costumes, a chef's hat, and he becomes borderline useless even before Voyager leaves the sectors he's familiar with. Sure, he got some good moments here and there, but they were usually either by taking him to a completely un-Neelix place and letting him stew or they were mocking him endlessly for being a disliked loser. Neelix really should have been Voyager's Garak.
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