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Egbert Souse posted:It's not just about the grain. You can go grainless and still have a high quality image if you use the right processing like the Lowry Process held by Reliance Mediaworks. Snow White was remastered from a 4K scan of the original negatives and processed in 4K. It's virtually flawless - even down to Disney putting back the original 1937 opening and closing credits. So what the hell happened? Did someone let their kid do the transfer?
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Lizard Combatant posted:So what the hell happened? Did someone let their kid do the transfer? To quote Blu-ray.com: "the beloved holiday short film has been scrubbed within an inch of its life, buffed and cleaned past the point of no return, and scrubbed -- then artificially sharpened -- again, presumably just 'cause." Check out what it should look like: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=76164&position=9 And what the movie on the disc looks like: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=76164&position=23 Everything has a weird stained-glass window look to it.
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It's shamefully bad, my sympathies to anyone who was waiting for this release.
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zenintrude posted:What the hell is wrong with Disney lately? Wow, this is probably the best-looking Flash animation I've ever seen.
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Egbert Souse posted:It's not just about the grain. You can go grainless and still have a high quality image if you use the right processing like the Lowry Process held by Reliance Mediaworks. Snow White was remastered from a 4K scan of the original negatives and processed in 4K. It's virtually flawless - even down to Disney putting back the original 1937 opening and closing credits. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason that movies like Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio look so good on Blu (retain strong lines yet are virtually grainless) is because they were reconstructed from the original cels?  If so, that might explain something... Disney wanted to achieve the same kind of look yet no longer had the original cels/backgrounds for SitS or Christmas Carol (admittedly, this seems unlikely) or didn't feel that the juice was worth the squeeze with these lesser works and went with a faster/cheaper method to achieve a "similar" result.
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zenintrude posted:You can correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason that movies like Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio look so good on Blu (retain strong lines yet are virtually grainless) is because they were reconstructed from the original cels? They only use original (surviving) artwork as reference. The processing basically uses a gigantic bank of computers (600+ Mac Pros) to mathematically calculate the image information in place of noise, grain, dirt, damage, etc. It helps that they usually start with high res 4K to 8K scans of camera negatives. Sometimes they have to resort to lesser elements - Steamboat Willie had to be from a duplicate negative since the camera negative was long gone. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 28, 2013 |
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I bet it was something dumb like they wanted to get it out in time for the holidays so they took the cheapest and fastest route. What a terrible thing to do to such a classic animation.
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zenintrude posted:You can correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason that movies like Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio look so good on Blu (retain strong lines yet are virtually grainless) is because they were reconstructed from the original cels?
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Disney apparently found a Winnie the Pooh TV special worth remastering: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Winnie-the-Pooh-A-Very-Merry-Pooh-Year-Blu-ray/76165/#Review Note that while it's clearly from SD sources, the upscale is quite impressive.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Again, regular people not film nerds. Easy Rider is probably more obscure than Chinatown to the average person. It never, ever occurred to me that Easy Rider was not a well-known movie. Ok, then, I change my answer. I would list The Witches of Eastwick before The Departed. I always thought Departed was good, but a little overrated.
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Shout is doing a replacement program for Fist Of Furyquote:Shout! Factory has announced they will offer free replacements for Fist of Fury in the new Bruce Lee: The Legacy Collection set. The disc did not feature a Mono Mandarin audio track. This is the latest setback for this set, which was previously recalled for video quality issues. Shout's official announcement reads: tl;dr - twilight time still blows 
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Twilight Time apparently has The Lion in Winter (MGM), Rollerball (MGM), and Used Cars (Fox) now. The Lion in Winter is getting a HTF poll on whether to release or not - rumor has it that the existing HD master isn't very good. Of course, why a film like The Lion in Winter doesn't have a new 4K transfer is sad. Although, I've heard the original film elements are in bad condition from mishandling years ago. Had it been licensed to Criterion, I doubt whether costs for a restoration would be even in question.
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AnimEigo just had a Kickstarter for a new "Ultimate Edition" of Bubblegum Crisis fully funded after 4 days. Tentative release date is August 2014, and the (unlimited) backing package that gets you a copy of the bluray (plus some extras...like a challenge coin?) is $50.
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Andrei Tarkovsky's Nostalghia is coming Jan. 21 from Kino Lorber. Also, Warner Archive just put Peter Weir's Fearless up for order on their site. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 30, 2013 |
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http://www.criterion.com/films/735-...ne%20of%20Blood Throne of Blood from Criterion, Throne of Blood from Criterion, Throne of Blood from Criterion, Throne of Blood from Criterion!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! Anyway, I kind of like that movie and approve of Criterion's upcoming release.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:http://www.criterion.com/films/735-...ne%20of%20Blood Any Kurosawa on Blu-ray is pretty awesome. Except for that Ran release that was really ugly from a few years ago.
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bowmore posted:drat that looks so good. Shame Disney Blu's are so expensive. I know some people are opposed to these things on principle, but if you save up a nice wad of cash and then join that Disney Movie Club thing for about 2 months, you can rake in a poo poo load of great films for ridiculously low cost. I joined initially and stuck around for a few months and cleaned house, then did it again about two years later and saved so much on all of them. As long as you decline that monthly offer bullshit you're fine. And sometimes when the monthly offer is even a decent deal when they combo it with 2 or 3 other titles. e: and right around now is a good time to do it. read more here if you're interested: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=221740 Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:I know some people are opposed to these things on principle, but if you save up a nice wad of cash and then join that Disney Movie Club thing for about 2 months, you can rake in a poo poo load of great films for ridiculously low cost. I joined initially and stuck around for a few months and cleaned house, then did it again about two years later and saved so much on all of them. As long as you decline that monthly offer bullshit you're fine. And sometimes when the monthly offer is even a decent deal when they combo it with 2 or 3 other titles. Yeah it's a really good deal, and they just recently started selling exclusive to the store DVDs of the Disney Afternoon series that never got finished a few years ago. So far Gargoyles and Talespin are completed, and it looks like they put up all the series for Goof Troop as well. As for the deals, it's a great value, especially if you stack the purchases, as the highest value will be full price, unless it one of the monthly deals. For example, this monthly deal for me is Monster Inc + Monster Unversity for $40 with free shipping. That honestly a great deal since Monster Inc (which is the 3D one) is almost always $30 on Amazon. After that any other movie I get is the listed sale price.
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Synapse Films confirmed they have licensed Suspiria. Release pending 2014/2015. Main perk is a new 2K restoration from the camera negative.
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That's probably the way to go. I just checked Amazon and some prick third party seller has it jacked up to $97 as the main fullfiller. I wish I'd bought it when it was new.
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Amazon's kicking November off right. Alien Anthology is the deal of the day. $19.49 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AQO3QA...XM0Y4AEZRS0QV4Q Raging Bull - $3.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001JQTSG6...D96G96DZEP6F7Y1 Fargo - $4.49 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001U6YI8I...YFFYS8WSY9WBSMD $5.99 Almost Famous http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AEFXE3Q...ANC9WQRA6FCMKYQ True Romance http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001ECQ4HG...TBEWDE34F4YAXCW Sweeney Todd http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AEBBA1I...J0GZET139ZB2NCZ Prometheus - $9.49 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005LAIHY0...HB7E0FMAKWKZYM4 Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Some good deals on Amazon UK as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=amb_l...&pf_rd_i=655852 Matrix Trilogy for 9 pounds, Django Unchained for 10, Fast & Furious 1-5 for 12,74, Aladdin 12,23, Cloud Atlas 10,50, Prometheus 8, Dark Kight Rises 8, Looper 7 Also a Universal Classic Monsters collection for 25 pounds that looks pretty good. Has stuff like Dracula, the Mummy, Frankenstein, Invisible Man and 4 others.
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Luck Season 1 - $21.95 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008V90TZI...4Y53REBTT4CFKXG Little Caesar/The Public Enemy/The Petrified Forest/White Heat - $26.98 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCGUJ5M...RQPWQPW679ZXXW7 Westworld - $5.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AATFJK2...7QY47A31G6FS56T Weeds: The Complete Series (with UltraViolet) - $69.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ELKDD9...1J8BPPF1E7R7PP& Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Nov 4, 2013 |
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A question that's probably been asked before: Is there any chance that The Killer or Hard-Boiled will ever get a better quality Blu-Ray release? I bought the Blu-Ray for Hard-Boiled, knowing about the bad quality transfer, but I still enjoyed the film regardless. I was thinking about getting The Killer, but wanted to know if it's worth holding out for a better version in the future.
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Weren't the masters for most HK films from that time period kept in horrendous conditions? I don't think we're ever going to see anything special, sadly.
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Tora! Tora! Tora! - $6 (under more buying choices) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007LNBRKQ...EQWZRBBQDWJC9W1 Die Hard 1-4 - $19.99 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ANGID14...7GWG7HQB64QPWWF EL BROMANCE posted:Weren't the masters for most HK films from that time period kept in horrendous conditions? I don't think we're ever going to see anything special, sadly. And they're owned by Weinstein. They've been extremely cold on home video since they lost their rear end on HD-DVD
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Robocop 4K remaster coming Jan. 21 according to Blu-Ray.com. Also, Fox rescheduled F.W. Murnau's Sunrise for Jan. 14.
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Glad I held off - cant wait to see how that Robocop looks.
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Egbert Souse posted:Robocop 4K remaster coming Jan. 21 according to Blu-Ray.com. Can you give me the link to that story? I want to send it to some friends but I'll be damned if I can find the story.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Can you give me the link to that story? I want to send it to some friends but I'll be damned if I can find the story. As far as I can tell, the source is a Amazon.ca page :/ http://www.amazon.ca/Robocop-Bilingual-Blu-ray-Ronny-Cox/dp/B00GG0NCNK?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1383614716&sr=1-38 Hope it's true.
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Call Me Charlie posted:As far as I can tell, the source is a Amazon.ca page :/ I'd buy that for a dollar!
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^^ That made a really, really stressful day slightly less harrowing. Thank you.
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Personperson14 posted:Any Kurosawa on Blu-ray is pretty awesome. Except for that Ran release that was really ugly from a few years ago. Ran's Blu-Ray conversion was done by StudioCanal while all the rest of the Kurosawa Blu-Rays have been done by Criterion. Criterion has done Ran on DVD, though. Obviously, StudioCanal's work is not in the same ballpark as Criterion's. Thrilled as hell about Throne of Blood. It has been too long since the last Kurosawa transfer, so I was getting worried that they had decided that they were finished with the ones that would be profitable enough. Still another half dozen that I hope they get around to at some point...
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Boz0r posted:If I throw a 3D Blu Ray in a player or TV that doesn't support 3D, does it show the film in 2D or won't it work? It will generally force the 2D version.
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Scream Trilogy - $11.83 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0057YUV6C...95QXZ3FVHG7RCXC $13.86 each They Live http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008VF0Y0M...D0W5HVNKEKKW46Q The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader 3D http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005BCE7BK...M22550SXE6SHHP4 My Fair Lady http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JZBP8W...NK04558VEFP88MJ Deliverance (Digibook) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007L2UQJK...FZCXRBN0CP2VGEE Scary Movie 1-3 bundle http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XB8SZU...903P22K5V1JYHQB They Live has a really good transfer and it's almost worth the price of admission for the commentary alone. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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