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DrNutt posted:Just a reminder folks, for maximum festive Bij tonight, be sure to watch Catspaw tonight! Spooooooooky! I think this is one of the advantages of the whole episodic TV format, however much people may like their Breaking Bads and their B5s and their hipping and their hopping. While I suppose one might reasonably say, 'what if Stephanie Meyer wrote an episode of Star Trek,' the counter is 'imagine if Stephen King or JK Rowling wrote an episode of Star Trek'.
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Nessus posted:Wow, it was even written by Robert Bloch. What if Harlan Ellison wrote an episode of Star Trek
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Oct 31, 2013 20:03
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rypakal posted:What if Harlan Ellison wrote an episode of Star Trek Star Trek would be sued since Harlan Ellison is involved, and if not a law suit he will be pissed at someone.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:06
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It can be strong, terrible, or somewhere in between, depending on who the showrunner is. Like, I think I remember liking Richard Matheson's episode but thinking "This seems like it was written for The Twilight Zone, though" because, welp
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Oct 31, 2013 20:08
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Bicyclops posted:It can be strong, terrible, or somewhere in between, depending on who the showrunner is. Like, I think I remember liking Richard Matheson's episode but thinking "This seems like it was written for The Twilight Zone, though" because, welp I don't think I've read or seen anything written by Richard Matheson that didn't make me think it was written for the Twilight Zone
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Oct 31, 2013 20:11
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I just showed some friends catspaw a few minutes ago for halloween and I think they might be into Trek now! ...but only bad trek 
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Oct 31, 2013 20:13
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bobkatt013 posted:Star Trek would be sued since Harlan Ellison is involved, and if not a law suit he will be pissed at someone. poo poo man, now that he's been mentioned at least twice in this thread, he's probably contacting his lawyers to see if he has any grounds for a lawsuit right now.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:15
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Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:I don't think I've read or seen anything written by Richard Matheson that didn't make me think it was written for the Twilight Zone That's what I'm saying. Stephen King could probably write for Star Trek and it could even conceivably be a great episode, but everyone would talk like a Maine grandpa. Big name guest writers have their advantages and their disadvantages. Episodic writing is almost by definition more uneven whereas shows with a writing staff are more consistent, but the latter can also mean that things lack variety, which can wear thin for shows that have seven seasons.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:19
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rypakal posted:What if Harlan Ellison wrote an episode of Star Trek He got the story credit on a couple of Babylon 5 episodes if that counts. He also had a creative consultant credit for the whole run.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:39
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Luigi Thirty posted:He got the story credit on a couple of Babylon 5 episodes if that counts. He also had a creative consultant credit for the whole run. If he wrote star trek it would involve time travel of some sort. Maybe Kirk falling in love with someone, but discovering that she helps the Nazis win the war.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:45
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bobkatt013 posted:If he wrote star trek it would involve time travel of some sort. Maybe Kirk falling in love with someone, but discovering that she helps the Nazis win the war.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:47
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Oh yeah there was that Neil Gaiman episode where dead people come back to life and Space Penn and Teller (whose voice box is voiced by Harlan Ellison) do a comedy routine
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Oct 31, 2013 20:52
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Luigi Thirty posted:Oh yeah there was that Neil Gaiman episode where dead people come back to life and Space Penn and Teller do a comedy routine That was a terrible episode, I remember this coloring my perceptions of Penn and Teller forever.
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Oct 31, 2013 20:53
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1st AD posted:That was a terrible episode, I remember this coloring my perceptions of Penn and Teller forever. That episode was easily the best episode of the first half of season 5, and also had some important developments for the rest of the series. It was also the last time Londo was happy. 
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Oct 31, 2013 20:54
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Nessus posted:Time travel would be kind of tricky. McCoy would fit in obviously, but you'd have to figure out some way to conceal Spock's... you know. "My friend is obviously... Chinese." Iprazochrome fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Oct 31, 2013 20:58
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1st AD posted:That was a terrible episode, I remember this coloring my perceptions of Penn and Teller forever. For better, or worse?
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Oct 31, 2013 21:00
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The Federation is a utopia, exactly as it appears to be, only interested in pursuing peaceful relations with other species, never attacking, people who hate replicators and transporters are stodgy, weird Luddites, the Maquis are dumb and whiny space terrorists, and any contradictions of this are due to the shows' limited budgets and the fact that they were made in the 60s/80s/90s. There, I said it apropos of nothing  kelvron posted:And I will be that terrible ball and chain. Watch Star Trek. Watch it all. The BIJ of terrible Trek is what makes the standouts even better. Star Trek is more than a TV show, it's a snapshot of how TV was made in a particular era. "The Best of Both Worlds" loses some of it's impact without "Family". Not just from a storytelling standpoint, but from a TV standpoint. Watching TV storytelling change from TNG->DS9->Voy->Ent is a lot of fun. I didn't watch TNG Season 1 until recently, and now I FINALLY understand the "341-mark-12" and "200-mark-230" bearing system, which I was confused by the entire time I watched TNG/DS9. Farecoal fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Oct 31, 2013 21:00
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Ellison also voiced the Babylon 5 main computer "experimental personality program"'s voice.1st AD posted:That was a terrible episode, I remember this coloring my perceptions of Penn and Teller forever. Penn is also a gigantically creepy pervo who won't take 'no' for an answer.
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Oct 31, 2013 21:12
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Luigi Thirty posted:Oh yeah there was that Neil Gaiman episode 1st AD posted:That was a terrible episode This is a very circular conversation.
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Oct 31, 2013 21:18
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Nessus posted:Time travel would be kind of tricky. McCoy would fit in obviously, but you'd have to figure out some way to conceal Spock's... you know. They can just say he's into body modification.
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Oct 31, 2013 21:20
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BrandonGK posted:They can just say he's into body modification. Actually his ears were caught in a mechanical rice picker. Quite tragic, really.
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Oct 31, 2013 21:54
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In Time's Arrow, Counselor Troi doesn't feel any life from the beings sitting in phased time. Therefore it's totally okay to blow up their source of food and all the aliens with it without bothering to find some other alternative because gently caress eating dying people from the past. This of course is shortly after they decide not to mangle the gently caress out of the Borg Collective with Hew. Consistency.
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Oct 31, 2013 22:34
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President Kucinich posted:In Time's Arrow, Counselor Troi doesn't feel any life from the beings sitting in phased time. Therefore it's totally okay to blow up their source of food and all the aliens with it without bothering to find some other alternative because gently caress eating dying people from the past. "Mr. Data, how much would an audience from the 1980s relate to these... beings?" "Not very well, sir. They come off as spooky and villanous." "Fire torpedoes, Mr. Worf." "AT LAST."
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Oct 31, 2013 22:40
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I just realized that the Starfleet Intelligence (what an oxmoron  ) guy in Honor Among Thieves is the LESBIAN REQUEST DENIED guy on Orange is the New Black.
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Oct 31, 2013 22:45
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1st AD posted:I just realized that the Starfleet Intelligence (what an oxmoron The Trill woman Dax had the fling with is now the mother on Arrow.
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Oct 31, 2013 23:37
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The two Siskos (bald/hairy) are just so different, I find it difficult to reconcile them as the same man. Hairy Sisko is all "HOO! Jake-o, can't you feel it in your bones?" while singing in a falsetto and jumping hopscotch, but Bald Sisko is the scariest Starfleet officer of all time, virus-bombing planets and speaking in a gravelly deep voice at all times.   superh posted:Yesterday's Enterprise is amazing. I didn't really like that episode, because A. I didn't give a poo poo about Tasha Yar, B. The battle at the end was lame, and C. They killed off the awesome lady captain of the Enterprise-C and had white male security officer take over. Farecoal fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Nov 1, 2013 00:38
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Sisko was secretly replaced by Mirror Sisko.
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Nov 1, 2013 00:43
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The transformation is nearly complete.
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The Sisko is... schizophrenic. Uncertain.
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Farecoal posted:I didn't really like that episode, because A. I didn't give a poo poo about Tasha Yar, B. The battle at the end was lame, and C. They killed off the awesome lady captain of the Enterprise-C and had white male security officer take over. That battle at the end was loving amazing because they finally decided to use some budget. It's only lame in a modern context, which... uh... of course! Standard battles are an interior view of the bridge while the ship shakes once and someone says shields are at 60%, c'mon man! Tasha always sucked though, and Rachel Garrett is my favourite lady captain in all of Trek
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Nov 1, 2013 02:29
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Hyperriker posted:Tasha always sucked though, The world just wasn't ready for a rape-gang-hardened female head of security.
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Nov 1, 2013 02:34
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Hyperriker posted:That battle at the end was loving amazing because they finally decided to use some budget. It's only lame in a modern context, which... uh... of course! I am the thread's resident youngin', I didn't watch (and wasn't when born when) TNG in its original run and am not used to low production values. That being said it was probably my too high expectations.
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Nov 1, 2013 02:35
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Mister Kingdom posted:The world just wasn't ready for a rape-gang-hardened female head of security. Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong angle. Maybe she wasn't running from the rape gangs. Maybe she was running the rape gangs.
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Nov 1, 2013 02:38
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Writer Cath posted:Maybe she was running the rape gangs. Glass ceiling? Hardly. Sexism is over, Federailures 
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Nov 1, 2013 02:41
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Writer Cath posted:Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong angle. That would explain what she did to Data.
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Nov 1, 2013 02:42
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Oh, come on now. How would the youth of America have learned about drugs without Tasha Yar to lecture
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Nov 1, 2013 02:52
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Uh, the same way I did? My aunt being a methhead?
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Bicyclops posted:Oh, come on now. How would the youth of America have learned about drugs without Tasha Yar to lecture by watching TNG 4x20, qpid! (In which the crew all get blazed as gently caress and play Robin Hood)
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I have a feeling that if we assembled all the good episodes of Voyager together, we'd have a season's worth of episodes and we could tell people who want to watch Voyager to watch these episodes in order instead. We should compile a list of these and pretend that Voyager was just a 1-season show!
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Farecoal posted:The Federation is a utopia, exactly as it appears to be, only interested in pursuing peaceful relations with other species, never attacking, people who hate replicators and transporters are stodgy, weird Luddites, the Maquis are dumb and whiny space terrorists, and any contradictions of this are due to the shows' limited budgets and the fact that they were made in the 60s/80s/90s. Farecoal for thread president! Farecoal posted:I didn't really like that episode, because A. I didn't give a poo poo about Tasha Yar, B. The battle at the end was lame, and C. They killed off the awesome lady captain of the Enterprise-C and had white male security officer take over. Impeach the bastard! 
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