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Dirt posted:edit: It keeps getting weirder, with new people I don't know popping in: To use the least offensive word I can think of, these people are retarded. Except for maybe the New Atlantis guy.
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The Macaroni posted:Yikes, that's a new low. How'd you know he was a Washington fan? Seriously, he is and bitches weekly about there being a conspiracy to not put the better (i.e. whiter) quarterback in. Honestly, sex being for the poor is sort of the logical endpoint of the whole "pushing kids out for the check" and "sex is evil" memes being pushed by the same person. And you get the kind of people who are as messed up as you expect from it. It took me years to get the point of having a guilt-free relationship after that, and even now it's still weird to me that established couples have a sex life-- it's not icky but instead just something I thought was just not done.
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"Only poors have sex, we have season tickets to the Redskins instead!"
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There's a decent long pop-lit article on how Jefferson really wasn't super-benevolent. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Little-Known-Dark-Side-of-Thomas-Jefferson-169780996.html?c=y&story=fullstory Smithsonian: the Dark Side of Thomas Jefferson posted:The critical turning point in Jefferson’s thinking may well have come in 1792. As Jefferson was counting up the agricultural profits and losses of his plantation in a letter to President Washington that year, it occurred to him that there was a phenomenon he had perceived at Monticello but never actually measured. He proceeded to calculate it in a barely legible, scribbled note in the middle of a page, enclosed in brackets. What Jefferson set out clearly for the first time was that he was making a 4 percent profit every year on the birth of black children. The enslaved were yielding him a bonanza, a perpetual human dividend at compound interest. Jefferson wrote, “I allow nothing for losses by death, but, on the contrary, shall presently take credit four per cent. per annum, for their increase over and above keeping up their own numbers.” His plantation was producing inexhaustible human assets. The percentage was predictable. Consider some of those children shared Jefferson blood 
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Nov 1, 2013 17:57
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sweart gliwere posted:Standard dumb excuse-making. Raping your slaves is an investment so great, you'd be a fool NOT to do it! E: Oh gently caress that joke just made me really sad
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Nov 1, 2013 18:02
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rkajdi posted:How'd you know he was a Washington fan? Seriously, he is and bitches weekly about there being a conspiracy to not put the better (i.e. whiter) quarterback in.
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Nov 1, 2013 18:06
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All the guy is saying is "white man's burden" in 2013.
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Nov 1, 2013 18:25
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Can we please talk about whatever the gently caress New Atlantis guy is talking about? I'm familiar with the Fed/Jeckyl Island Conspiracy, but how are they connecting that to indentured servitude? Do they believe that it wasn't the government and business but rather some alien force establishing that? Like MASONS????
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Nov 1, 2013 20:41
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Dirt posted:A friend posted this Jefferson quote: Jesus loving Christ. Literal slavery apologism in 2013, ladies and gents.  If they were so well-treated and poo poo, I'd like for him to explain Nat Turner.
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Nov 1, 2013 21:11
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De Nomolos posted:Can we please talk about whatever the gently caress New Atlantis guy is talking about? I'm familiar with the Fed/Jeckyl Island Conspiracy, but how are they connecting that to indentured servitude? Do they believe that it wasn't the government and business but rather some alien force establishing that? Like MASONS???? Taxes are slavery, doncha know? I actually got that on my Facebook yesterday (though to be fair, in response to me trolling by posting about how pro-life is pro-slavery).
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Nov 1, 2013 21:34
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Mornacale posted:Taxes are slavery, doncha know? I actually got that on my Facebook yesterday (though to be fair, in response to me trolling by posting about how pro-life is pro-slavery). As far as I'm concerned, when anyone makes the "taxes are slavery" argument, that's my cue to walk away from the discussion. You can't argue with idiocy like that, it's a useless fight to even get near.
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Nov 1, 2013 21:50
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Apparently people are still defending George Zimmerman? Red Guy is a gun nut on my wall who will basically defend whoever had the most amount of guns in any particular scenario.   
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Nov 1, 2013 21:50
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Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean we all don't know he did it http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/25/justice/zimmerman-juror-b29-interview/
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My uncle talked about how Obama's comment of 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon' was needlessly inflammatory, rather than a way to show empathy. He also believed that the shooting may have been justified because Trayvon had slammed Zimmerman's head into the concrete.
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Nov 1, 2013 22:02
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Mornacale posted:Taxes are slavery, doncha know? Yes, of course. Now, allow me to explain without a hint of irony why slavery was actually a good thing for black people...
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Nov 1, 2013 22:07
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Nyarai posted:My uncle talked about how Obama's comment of 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon' was needlessly inflammatory, rather than a way to show empathy. I really don't understand how people feel the need to turn that phrase around into something it obviously didn't mean. the freep thread is full of examples of it.
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BraveUlysses posted:I really don't understand how people feel the need to turn that phrase around into something it obviously didn't mean. the freep thread is full of examples of it. Because Obama is a black man and that's scary as hell to a lot of people.
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Nov 1, 2013 22:36
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Mornacale posted:Taxes are slavery, doncha know? I actually got that on my Facebook yesterday (though to be fair, in response to me trolling by posting about how pro-life is pro-slavery). But that's not what he's talking about. He's specifically referencing a FederalReserve conspiracy theory. There's a book Fed haters love called The Creature from Jeckyl Island that asserts that the Fed was established as a conspiracy among government and bankers to control the money supply and thus every machination of the economy. This guy is taking it further. Either it's just the usual anti-Semitic crap about bankers or Masons, or something new.
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Nov 1, 2013 22:45
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50+ comment debate on my newsfeed about who was worse, Andrew Jackson or Obama
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Nov 1, 2013 22:51
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Nyarai posted:He also believed that Trayvon had slammed Zimmerman's head into the concrete. Even if he did, he(Trayvon) was acting in self-defense.
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Nov 1, 2013 23:16
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TerminalSaint posted:Even if he did, he(Trayvon) was acting in self-defense. I worded that poorly and don't want to start a derail. 
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Nov 1, 2013 23:23
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nyquil hangover posted:50+ comment debate on my newsfeed about who was worse, Andrew Jackson or Obama I once had a friend-of-a-friend in a Facebook discussion call me an Illuminati-brainwashed sheep buying into the evil bankers' propaganda for suggesting that Andrew Jackson was anything less than a saint. gently caress knows why, the guy in question is one of those really weird 'the Rothschilds control everything' crazies and nothing he ever says makes sense. He then went on to say that Woodrow Wilson was actually the worst president in history, and the only good thing he did was the Palmer Raids. It might have been an intentional dig at me, given that my profile picture was the IWW logo at the time.
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Nov 1, 2013 23:30
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Mister Bates posted:I once had a friend-of-a-friend in a Facebook discussion call me an Illuminati-brainwashed sheep buying into the evil bankers' propaganda for suggesting that Andrew Jackson was anything less than a saint. gently caress knows why, the guy in question is one of those really weird 'the Rothschilds control everything' crazies and nothing he ever says makes sense. Andrew Jackson was against central banking, in part due to concerns similar to those of this flavor of conspiracy theorist, so they lionize him. It's sort of uncomfortable when one of the major historical patrons of your ideology happened to commit out-and-out genocide.
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Mister Bates posted:I once had a friend-of-a-friend in a Facebook discussion call me an Illuminati-brainwashed sheep buying into the evil bankers' propaganda for suggesting that Andrew Jackson was anything less than a saint. gently caress knows why, the guy in question is one of those really weird 'the Rothschilds control everything' crazies and nothing he ever says makes sense. Yeah, it's part of that whole illuminati conspiracy garbage. The Rothschild family which ran several banks in Europe supposedly were involved with the first and second Bank of the United States. This isn't historically true, but then the conspiracy theory goes on that since the Rothschilds had a lot of business interests in England, they were using the Bank of the United States to cause an economic collapse, or something, which would let England retake the US. Andrew Jackson, of course, revoked its charter. Personally, I find the illuminati conspiracy theory where Adam Weishaupt kills George Washington and takes his place more entertaining, but that's just me.
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And in case it wasn't obvious, it also explains his hatred of Woodrow Wilson, signer of the Federal Reserve Act.
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Got a good classic from my grandpa today. I'm sure you guys have seen it before. quote:Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
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Nov 2, 2013 01:11
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"No burgers"? Beef is halal, no? Oh... does he think "ham"burgers are made out of pork?
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Edible Hat posted:"No burgers"? Beef is halal, no? Oh... does he think "ham"burgers are made out of pork?
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Nyarai posted:My uncle talked about how Obama's comment of 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon' was needlessly inflammatory, rather than a way to show empathy. He also believed that the shooting may have been justified because Trayvon had slammed Zimmerman's head into the concrete. "If Obama was supposed to unite us, why am I celebrating the death of a black kid to spite him?" is probably the most horrifying talking point of the Obama years. If not, then it's up there.
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Nov 2, 2013 02:03
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Can't even dignify that spiel with a response. Also No Football. Hah! No football he says. Anyways it's just that big list of 'hey look at me! Bigot and loving it!'
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Walter posted:As far as I'm concerned, when anyone makes the "taxes are slavery" argument, that's my cue to walk away from the discussion. You can't argue with idiocy like that, it's a useless fight to even get near. I was thinking about this earlier for purposes of arguing about flat/regressive taxation. A flat tax doesn't work for reasons analogous to the taxes are slavery argument. A 10% flat tax sounds great to some people, but once you crank it up to 50, 70, 99 you start seeing why marginal utility matters. But when you go from 99 to 100% all barriers are shattered and everyone is equally hosed.
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So a friend from high school was shot twice in the leg at the LAX shooting today, and there's ALREADY ARGUMENTS erupting on facebook about false flags and loving taking our guns and Obummer's TSA Nazis and god drat. It's just so incredibly demoralizing to deal with such a vitriolic, pathological mindset. I dunno I'm just glad he's OK 
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Nov 2, 2013 05:50
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Is every future mass shooting/disaster going to be immediately called a false flag by a bunch of shut-ins with YouTube accounts? I'm so disgusted by this trend. I can't imagine how the survivors of Sandy Hook, etc. would feel if they saw one of those macros "proving" the whole thing was faked. Jesus Christ, these conspiracy theories keep getting more personal and more disgusting.
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Every single time the RWA and/or conspiracy theorist base starts yammering on about something completely inane, I start to understand the allure of fascism. Then I snap out of it, realize I'm a horrible person; however, I'm not nearly as much as a horrible person I'm giving myself credit for because I have this one weird trick conservatives everywhere hate: introspection.
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nyquil hangover posted:Is every future mass shooting/disaster going to be immediately called a false flag by a bunch of shut-ins with YouTube accounts? Yes.
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 "drat Democrats, thinking people should get things like access to healthcare and protection from harmful manufactured goods."
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I'm also not pro-choice on stealing, rape, or vehicular manslaughter. Funny, it's almost like believing people have a choice in some situations doesn't require you to support choices in every other situation.
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Nov 2, 2013 09:14
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Nov 2, 2013 09:21
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VitalSigns posted:I'm also not pro-choice on stealing, rape, or vehicular manslaughter. Funny, it's almost like believing people have a choice in some situations doesn't require you to support choices in every other situation. What are the externalities of abortion? (I'm sure you guys can think of ONE, I doubt most pro-lifers would understand the concept if you explained it to them.)
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Cops are disgusting, and also they have facebook pages The first post was kinda funny. Then it turned out he was serious and it became pretty unfunny.
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Breadallelogram posted:Got a good classic from my grandpa today. I'm sure you guys have seen it before. Also, someone is apparently unaware that Muslims exist outside of the Middle East (like 80% of them), and that one of the big causes of the problems in the Middle East is a long history of the Western powers loving their poo poo up. And that's before we get to the stuff that's just plain racist. I'm American and I don't give a poo poo about football and don't drink beer, and while I'm cool with people liking those things, they've never made my life better, at all. And pretending Christians have never said "it gets better after you die" is the cherry on the poo poo sundae.
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