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2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Dan Didio posted:

You won. Congratulation.

Now you can continue to build that congratulation through further gameplay and downloadable content.

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Jedi Knight Luigi
Jul 13, 2009
What's sad is I'll probably sell the trilogy to my friend for half of what I bought it for because I have no interest in playing it again. There's something I can't quite describe that's missing in the ME trilogy that made me want to play both of the KOTORs through like seven times each. I don't know if it's the ending though, because dear God, KOTOR II's ending... :cripes:

Is a mostly renegade play-through worth it?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The true ending is the Red Ending and then Citadel. :colbert:

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

2house2fly posted:

Now you can continue to build that congratulation through further gameplay and downloadable content.

Hahahahaha. Brilliant.

It feels pretty weird to have a day of celebration based around promoting a videogame, it feels weirder to have it in a year with no releases for that videogame franchise.

Der Luftwaffle
Dec 29, 2008
Are there any upcoming game expos? Dropping info on the next game seems like the only reason to drum up interest like this.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Dan Didio posted:

Hahahahaha. Brilliant.

It feels pretty weird to have a day of celebration based around promoting a videogame, it feels weirder to have it in a year with no releases for that videogame franchise.

Did you not see the glory that is Risk: Galaxy at War Edition???

Tremors
Aug 16, 2006

What happened to the legendary Chris Redfield, huh? What happened to you?!
So how about that Kaidan comic. :stare:


Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
^^^^ Great googly moogly :stare: ^^^^

Also, I'm so glad N7 pride day is coming. Finally, I can openly express my desire to play a video game series without being persecuted for my beliefs. Maybe someday we can be treated as equals every day of the year, but this is a good first step. I just might come out to my family as a mass effect fan this weekend.

edit: wait what the gently caress: "Did you name your child Garrus and dress them in an N7 onesie?" Stop encouraging them bioware.

Chexoid fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Nov 2, 2013

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Why is Kaidan on fire?

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Alteisen posted:

Why is Kaidan on fire?

I would also like to know why that chick's face appears to be melting off like one of the nazi's in indiana jones. although if kaidan is on fire i guess it makes sense.

Salis
Jul 5, 2007
So I never bought any of the DLC for Mass Effect and reading about a lot of it (namely Lair of the Shadow Broker), I feel like I'm really missing out on some great gameplay.

It irks me to have to spend SO MUCH money for what will probably only amount to a couple of extra hours (If I get LotSB, From the Ashes, Omega, Citadel and Leviathan) of gameplay.

Is it worth it? I'm dying for another game like Mass Effect but I haven't been able to get into Dragonage at all, so figured getting the DLC was the next best thing.

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
Shadow Broker, Leviathan, and Citadel are all miles better than like 90% of normal mass effect content.

They really killed it with most of the DLCs. Pinnacle is the only one that truly blows.

chaosapiant
Oct 10, 2012

White Line Fever

Chexoid posted:

Shadow Broker, Leviathan, and Citadel are all miles better than like 90% of normal mass effect content.

They really killed it with most of the DLCs. Pinnacle is the only one that truly blows.

Pinnacle Station sucks, but I still grind my way through it for completion's sake every time I play ME1. Of course, I take the difficulty all the way to easy because that poo poo seems impossible otherwise.

Salis
Jul 5, 2007
How many hours of gameplay did you get out of it? I mean it's essentially paying the money you would for a totally new game to get all that stuff.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Lair, Citadel, Leviathan are incredible. Omega and Arrival are hit and miss. Overlord is good with some touching moments but still not on the level of the first three. Bring Down the Sky is more ME1.

Pinnacle Station is, as stated, pretty awful- no new story content, just a combat simulator not entirely dissimilar to what you get in Citadel, but using ME1 combat mechanics, which are the worst in the series. And a ridiculously tough mission.

Salis posted:

How many hours of gameplay did you get out of it? I mean it's essentially paying the money you would for a totally new game to get all that stuff.

About six or seven for ME2, and more for ME3. So you're pretty much getting two-thirds a game out of it, by ME standards (average 30 hours per playthrough for me, all quests completed, not all collectibles).

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

chaosapiant posted:

Pinnacle Station sucks, but I still grind my way through it for completion's sake every time I play ME1. Of course, I take the difficulty all the way to easy because that poo poo seems impossible otherwise.

Do it on Insanity. Suffer. Suffferrrrrr.

I did it :colbert:

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
How much did you pay for the base games? I've seen people who didn't want to buy DLC because they got a game for $10 or something and couldn't justify paying more.

The real answer is this: If you like ME, then buy all the DLC. All of it. The price per hour might be lower, but you are still supporting the franchise and if you are wasting $$$ on video games to begin with, might as well waste some more.

And for reference:

ME2
Zaeed/Kasumi - they are characters so you should make sure you have them.
Shadow Broker - A major plot point in ME3, so you might as well see it come to fruition.
Arrival - Same as above.
Overlord - Small payoff in ME3, but still an interesting quest.

ME3
From Ashes - The most important of ME3 DLC because it introduces a main character.
Omega - It's fun but unless you read the comics, it has no bearing on the rest of the game.
Leviathan - a HUGE info dump. So major that it should have been in the main games.
Citadel - the greatest thing ever. The pinnacle of all of ME.

Psion posted:

Do it on Insanity. Suffer. Suffferrrrrr.

I did it :colbert:

Holy poo poo. Seriously, holy poo poo.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
The secret to Pinnacle Station insanity is to use the command menu to save time lining up shots.

Zoran fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Nov 2, 2013

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Salis posted:

So I never bought any of the DLC for Mass Effect and reading about a lot of it (namely Lair of the Shadow Broker), I feel like I'm really missing out on some great gameplay.

It irks me to have to spend SO MUCH money for what will probably only amount to a couple of extra hours (If I get LotSB, From the Ashes, Omega, Citadel and Leviathan) of gameplay.

Is it worth it? I'm dying for another game like Mass Effect but I haven't been able to get into Dragonage at all, so figured getting the DLC was the next best thing.

The only thing that might be really worth it at this point is Citadel. Lair of the Shadow Broker is really good, one of the best pieces of DLC you can buy, but I can see it losing some of its punch playing it after ME3. It also depends on you liking Liara (I do, it just seems some don't). Leviathan is only worth it if you want some better justification for ME3's ending. From Ashes adds a fairly good character to ME3, and he even gets his own dialogue and cutscenes unlike ME2's Zaeed and Kasumi outside their loyalty missions. But that's only worth it if you plan to replay ME3 again. Omega is something to think about if you really enjoyed ME3's combat and/or thought Aria was a great character.

But assuming you're someone that enjoys the characters of Mass Effect (and didn't get them all killed in ME2) Citadel is well worth the $15. Every single character you can recruit at some point during the game gets something to do in there. There's tons of dialogue, most of it actually funny/touching/charming/etc, the main mission set isn't anything special on its own but combined with the dialogue, in-jokes, and REFERENCES! it turns it into something really fun. The combat simulator you get access to also has a fair bit of content to it; you can change a number of variables to make it harder/easier, bring along various squadmates, unlock stuff, and so on.

Salis
Jul 5, 2007
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like I'll be getting them while I anxiously await for another game basically exactly like Mass Effect.

And I paid $0 for the games - got them as a Christmas present from my brother who guessed I'd love them. He was right. I suppose I should throw them some money for the amount of enjoyment I've gotten out of them.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Salis posted:

It irks me to have to spend SO MUCH money for what will probably only amount to a couple of extra hours (If I get LotSB, From the Ashes, Omega, Citadel and Leviathan) of gameplay.
It's a bit of a spend, but mostly worth it if you like the main games enough to play through them all again. That list is good, but replace ME3 Omega with ME2 Overlord. Also get Zaeed and Kasumi if you don't have them, same for ME1 Bring down The Sky, which I like a lot and is probably cheap (I bought it forever ago).

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Psion posted:

Do it on Insanity. Suffer. Suffferrrrrr.

I did it :colbert:

Man I'm pretty sure the survival one was impossible to die on for anything less than hardcore/insanity if you were high level /had good gear which meant you'd never be able to leave.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Mazerunner posted:

Man I'm pretty sure the survival one was impossible to die on for anything less than hardcore/insanity if you were high level /had good gear which meant you'd never be able to leave.

When I played it recently I really did have to just stand out in the open for about four minutes before I died.

I was playing an Engineer, the least tanky class.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Psion posted:

Do it on Insanity. Suffer. Suffferrrrrr.

I did it :colbert:
Trying to do the time trial levels on hardcore/insanity is the single worst possible Mass Effect experience.

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Lycus posted:

Trying to do the time trial levels on hardcore/insanity is the single worst possible Mass Effect experience.

I still couldn't finish the time trials in time even when I trucked the Krogans to the ground so they couldn't pop Immunity. Giving NPC enemies that ability was the single worst idea in the entire series.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Zoran posted:

I was playing an Engineer, the least tanky class.

In what universe is this true?


Rick_Hunter posted:

I still couldn't finish the time trials in time even when I trucked the Krogans to the ground so they couldn't pop Immunity. Giving NPC enemies that ability was the single worst idea in the entire series.

You're supposed to use warp.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

sassassin posted:

In what universe is this true?

In ME1, Engineer is the only class that doesn't have either Immunity or Barrier, and it only uses light armor. That's why it was considered the squishiest class.


sassassin posted:

You're supposed to use warp.


Even with that, it's just aggravatingly difficult to do it fast enough on insanity. It's not fun.

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

Kibayasu posted:

Lair of the Shadow Broker is really good, one of the best pieces of DLC you can buy, but I can see it losing some of its punch playing it after ME3. It also depends on you liking Liara (I do, it just seems some don't).

For what it's worth, I positively hated Liara back in ME1 and then LotSB made me actually like her. The DLC is that good.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Tremors posted:

So how about that Kaidan comic. :stare:




I cannot stop looking at these images, holy poo poo. :stare:

edit: It's like every single person is melting and those three in the background have all become joined - quite literally - at the hip. I guess Kaidan got some banging hot re-constructive surgery?

Milkfred E. Moore fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Nov 2, 2013

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Tremors posted:

So how about that Kaidan comic. :stare:




I'm afraid to ask, that is a fan work, right?

Radio Paranoia
Jun 27, 2010

It is now safe to turn off your computer.

Torrannor posted:

I'm afraid to ask, that is a fan work, right?

Nope, it looks very official.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Lycus posted:

In ME1, Engineer is the only class that doesn't have either Immunity or Barrier, and it only uses light armor. That's why it was considered the squishiest class.

It also has an insane amount of shielding available i.e. the second best type of defence in the game

The best being walls.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Torrannor posted:

I'm afraid to ask, that is a fan work, right?

Mass Effect comics always seem to have terrible art. Even those Genesis DLCs where you make choices from the previous games have awful art.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Burning Mustache posted:

For what it's worth, I positively hated Liara back in ME1 and then LotSB made me actually like her. The DLC is that good.

Shadow Broker is the worst non-vehicle piece of ME2 DLC and the harbinger of the horror ME3 was set to unleash.

Gimmicky boss fights, waves of enemies dropping from the sky, writing that winked at its own plot holes as if that excused them...

Overlord is far better.

etjester
Jul 14, 2008

[insert text here]

Tremors posted:

So how about that Kaidan comic. :stare:

I love that Kaidan just decided to pop his shirt off before killing Vyrnnus. I always knew he left something out of that story.

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.
There are people selling this and making money off this.

Ponder that for a minute.

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

etjester posted:

I love that Kaidan just decided to pop his shirt off before killing Vyrnnus. I always knew he left something out of that story.

He was sweaty. What's a guy to do.

Kameh
Apr 27, 2004

Resident Sergio Apologist
CHAMPION
Somebody save me from myself. I'm beginning my second ME2 run, and in my first go around, I relentlessly scanned all planets and spent millions on probes to make sure I had not left any elements undiscovered. Honestly, I enjoyed exploring and reading weird planet descriptions, and I could spend an entire session just scanning planets without advancing the story at all.

If that's how it should be, then fine. But how accurate do I need to be when actually scanning? Should I locate the very center of the "spike" before shooting the probe, or will I get the same amount as long as I'm somewhere near it?

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

Kameh posted:

Somebody save me from myself. I'm beginning my second ME2 run, and in my first go around, I relentlessly scanned all planets and spent millions on probes to make sure I had not left any elements undiscovered. Honestly, I enjoyed exploring and reading weird planet descriptions, and I could spend an entire session just scanning planets without advancing the story at all.

If that's how it should be, then fine. But how accurate do I need to be when actually scanning? Should I locate the very center of the "spike" before shooting the probe, or will I get the same amount as long as I'm somewhere near it?

I'm fairly sure you get all the resources of a given hotspot when you're just somewhat near it and don't require the full spike to show.

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Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Kameh posted:

Somebody save me from myself. I'm beginning my second ME2 run, and in my first go around, I relentlessly scanned all planets and spent millions on probes to make sure I had not left any elements undiscovered. Honestly, I enjoyed exploring and reading weird planet descriptions, and I could spend an entire session just scanning planets without advancing the story at all.

If that's how it should be, then fine. But how accurate do I need to be when actually scanning? Should I locate the very center of the "spike" before shooting the probe, or will I get the same amount as long as I'm somewhere near it?

Element Zero 31,000 23,000
Iridium 220,000 191,000
Platinum 275,000 243,000
Palladium 195,000 166,000

Column A is total needed, column B is how much you need to actually scan if you collect all the stuff on missions.

So as soon as you can scan, go about 10% above those numbers and you never have to scan again.

And in answer to your question, you want the meter to be spiking on the Xbox. I've read that it just has to be close but after testing, this is not true.

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