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I was thinking of making a team for the Battle Maison. I have 2 members so far: Protean Greninja@ Expert Belt Hasty 252 Sp. Attack/252 Speed/4 Attack Surf Ice Beam Dark Pulse U-Turn Technician Scizor@ Scizorite Adamant 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 Sp.D Swords Dance Bullet Punch X-Scissor Brick Break I was thinking of Noivern for my third, but I could use something bulky. Anyone have any suggestions?
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:Is there an itemfinder in x/y? if so where do you get it? It's called the Dowsing Machine and you get it pretty early on from story-led events, I think. I don't remember doing anything special for it. RyuujinBlueZ posted:If I remember right the Ability is mostly a crapshoot, though the mother having the one you want helps (especially if it's a Hidden). You'll give whichever has the Nature you want an Everstone, this will lock all the offspring into having that Nature 100%. You'll give the other parent the Destiny Knot. I'm not sure that it matters if that parent has the best IVs or not, actually, but it couldn't hurt. Hmm. Alright. My next question stems from how breeding would work with the Destiny Knot. Let's say I had a Ditto with two perfect IVs in varying stats. Would I need to just keep breeding until one hatched with perfect IVs or at least four? I should preface that with me having a 4 IV Goomy. So a 4 IV Goomy would make it so I only need to boost the two remaining stats (Hp, Attack). Would I just need to breed one of the Dittos with perfect IVs in those two stats and then hope that 4 from the parent and 1 of the good IVs from Ditto transferred over to the kid?
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noirstronaut posted:Hmm. Alright. My next question stems from how breeding would work with the Destiny Knot. Let's say I had a Ditto with two perfect IVs in varying stats. Would I need to just keep breeding until one hatched with perfect IVs or at least four? If you've got a 4IV Goomy you really don't need to go all the way to six. Unless you're going to be using Attack, in this case, you can just ignore that and worry about HP. What I'd suggest, and note I might be wrong here, is breeding with a Ditto that at very least has a 31 in HP and toss a Power Weight on it and a Destiny Knot on the 4IV Goomy. This should pretty quickly (if not immediately) get you a 5IV Goomy. What will probably happen is you'll then breed out 5IV Goomy's until you've got at least one with the Nature you want, then you can breed two 5IV's together until you get the Ability you want. That is, at least, more or less how I did it with my Nidoran run, only easier because you won't have to worry as much about gender being a massive difference.
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Nov 3, 2013 04:55
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Am I reading Mega Kangaskhan's ability correctly? It effectively doubles the power of any move used? Or does it just double proc chances for added effects and such?
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Nov 3, 2013 04:56
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Bruceski posted:Am I reading Mega Kangaskhan's ability correctly? It effectively doubles the power of any ability moved? Or does it just double proc chances for added effects and such? as far as I know it's a two-thirds boost in power and it doubles the chance that an effect will proc
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Nov 3, 2013 04:57
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Bruceski posted:Am I reading Mega Kangaskhan's ability correctly? It effectively doubles the power of any move used? Or does it just double proc chances for added effects and such? The second attack is half as powerful as the one that triggered it, but it is a seperate attack and thus triggers anything on an attack again (so double procs, second one will hit after a Substitute breaks IIRC, and so on).
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Nov 3, 2013 04:58
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Bruceski posted:Am I reading Mega Kangaskhan's ability correctly? It effectively doubles the power of any move used? Or does it just double proc chances for added effects and such? The second attack is half as powerful but can proc whatever effects again. Mega Kanga with Power-Up Punch can become insane very quickly.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:01
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Everyone has talked about how awesome Mega Gengar is, but every Mega Gengar I fought tonight died in a single sucker punch from my Mega Banette. Pretty clear whom the superior ghost is 
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Nov 3, 2013 05:03
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Mega-Manectric looks hilarious, I need to find a way to put it in a party despite the better mega options. And the name leading into naming the rest of the team after various robot masters is just added bonus.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:08
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:If you've got a 4IV Goomy you really don't need to go all the way to six. Unless you're going to be using Attack, in this case, you can just ignore that and worry about HP. What I'd suggest, and note I might be wrong here, is breeding with a Ditto that at very least has a 31 in HP and toss a Power Weight on it and a Destiny Knot on the 4IV Goomy. This should pretty quickly (if not immediately) get you a 5IV Goomy. What will probably happen is you'll then breed out 5IV Goomy's until you've got at least one with the Nature you want, then you can breed two 5IV's together until you get the Ability you want. Hmm, I have a 4IV with Defense, SpA, SpD, and Speed. I was hoping on throwing a Destiny Knot on it and breeding with a Ditto with one that's high in HP and hoping it one of the children gets all 5 (at least) and Hydration.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:11
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noirstronaut posted:Hmm, I have a 4IV with Defense, SpA, SpD, and Speed. I was hoping on throwing a Destiny Knot on it and breeding with a Ditto with one that's high in HP and hoping it one of the children gets all 5 (at least) and Hydration. That should work. If you've got a Ditto that's high in HP and also has the Nature you want, you'll probably save a bit of time in the long run. If not, it'll basically be luck of the draw and might involve another step like what I said before. Again, though, I might be wrong and someone might sweep in later and correct me.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:16
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Internet Kraken posted:Everyone has talked about how awesome Mega Gengar is, but every Mega Gengar I fought tonight died in a single sucker punch from my Mega Banette. Pretty clear whom the superior ghost is I'm surprised that nobody is using Sub+Disable Mega Gengar. Just more time for Banette to take the throne of King Ghost that it has always deserved
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Nov 3, 2013 05:20
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Internet Kraken posted:Everyone has talked about how awesome Mega Gengar is, but every Mega Gengar I fought tonight died in a single sucker punch from my Mega Banette. Pretty clear whom the superior ghost is If the Gengar knows Substitute though... then what could the Mega Banette do?
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Nov 3, 2013 05:22
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Not a Twat posted:If the Gengar knows Substitute though... then what could the Mega Banette do? Call for backup from his Noivern buddy  Really though, everyone using Mega Gengar is doing it horribly. I guess they just assume that Bane doesn't know sucker punch and they can simply oneshot him with a shadow ball. He isn't a very popular mega so people might not know what to expect from him yet. EDIT: Oh yeah, for anyone that wanted me to add them via PM, I dumped all of my PMs like a day ago by mistake. If you want me to add you, hop onto IRC and contact me there. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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Nov 3, 2013 05:33
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I learned the hard way that Ghost-type Curse goes through Substitute, as do sound moves, apparently including Perish Song.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:34
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:That should work. If you've got a Ditto that's high in HP and also has the Nature you want, you'll probably save a bit of time in the long run. If not, it'll basically be luck of the draw and might involve another step like what I said before. Hmm. I managed to get a 5 IV one (Calm and Hydration too) with the lacking being defense. I might just run with this one. 
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Nov 3, 2013 05:34
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noirstronaut posted:Hmm. I managed to get a 5 IV one (Calm and Hydration too) with the lacking being defense. I might just run with this one. If you have nothing better to do, you could probably keep going on it for a little while longer until you've got a male and a female with 5 IVs and then throw them together and see what you get. It just kind of comes down to your patience in the end, and how perfect you want to go. I also have no real idea what you'd do with a Goomy, but it sounded like you're not going to want to let it take a physical hit anyway so skimping on Defense probably won't be a big deal.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:37
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:If you have nothing better to do, you could probably keep going on it for a little while longer until you've got a male and a female with 5 IVs and then throw them together and see what you get. It just kind of comes down to your patience in the end, and how perfect you want to go. I also have no real idea what you'd do with a Goomy, but it sounded like you're not going to want to let it take a physical hit anyway so skimping on Defense probably won't be a big deal. Yeah, that was the plan. I wanted to cross-check its IVs since I got this bad boy off of Reddit, but does the Kiloude guy mess it up a bit when taking in EVs?
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Nov 3, 2013 05:48
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I can understand why some Pokemons like Tyranitar get Mega Evolutions (because Tyranitar is loving awesome), but were people really clamoring and screaming for a new Manectric evo? Why not give one to like, Farfetch'd. That poor, unloved rear end in a top hat.
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Nov 3, 2013 05:56
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Manectric is a blue lightning dog, I don't see what there is not to love about him (other than being weak).
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Nov 3, 2013 06:00
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noirstronaut posted:Yeah, that was the plan. EVs have no effect on his reports
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Nov 3, 2013 06:00
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Alright so currently I have a team made of Galvantula, Togekiss, Mega Khan, Rotom fire, and Trevenent. For my last spot I'm trying to decide who I want for my rapid spinner. Now, I've narrowed it down to Donphan, Tentacruel, Exadrill, or Starmie. Exadrill and starmie are very aggressive choices and I'm leaning towards them right now. Tentacruel has great resistances for my team and deals with fairies. Donphan can take a hit from anything physical and checks a lot of things safely. Aegislash could be painful without him. What do you guys think is best?
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Nov 3, 2013 06:00
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So how do you find the random trees? I see them here: http://www.serebii.net/xy/wilditems.shtml But when it says, say, "Route 17", what does that mean? Randomly on the route? Are there specific spots? I just want some berries 
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Nov 3, 2013 06:13
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myron cope posted:So how do you find the random trees? I see them here: http://www.serebii.net/xy/wilditems.shtml Get into a battle on that route and there might be a tree.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:13
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Calaveron posted:I can understand why some Pokemons like Tyranitar get Mega Evolutions (because Tyranitar is loving awesome), but were people really clamoring and screaming for a new Manectric evo? Farfetch'd will remain forever terrible because the entirety of the drat joke is it's a duck that walks up to you carrying the very ingredients you need to make it into a soup.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:20
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Crosscontaminant posted:The whole point of Mega Evolution is they want to make poo poo Pokémon usable Thats uh, highly debatable considering Blaziken, Mewtwo, Garchomp, Scizor, Gengar, Alakazam and Tyranitar got one (two in Mewtwos case). Some poo poo Pokemon like Mawile and Banette got a nice boost yes, but it doesn't seem to be a method of helping to prop up the bad mons considering how many ridiculously strong Pokemon got an even bigger power boost. When 50% of Mega Evolutions go to the 1% in Pokemon terms I don't think you can call it an equalization measure.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:34
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Crosscontaminant posted:The whole point of Mega Evolution is they want to make poo poo Pokémon usable, which is what actual evolved forms used to do before they stopped doing that because of how much people complained about Magmortar, Electivire, Tangrowth, Magnezone and Probopass. The ones for cool (already strong) Pokémon like Tyranitar, Garchomp and Lati@s are for marketing purposes. Sorry, I missed the previous generations, but what were the complaints on those guys? And if the point is to make poo poo Pokemon usable, why not just tweak their stats to not make them awful? Or give them gimmicks and abilities that make them useful? And I've wanted a Farfetch'd evo ever since I saw this cool samurai-themed evolution 
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Nov 3, 2013 06:34
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Crosscontaminant posted:Farfetch'd will remain forever terrible because the entirety of the drat joke is it's a duck that walks up to you carrying the very ingredients you need to make it into a soup. Bullshit. You still need something to cook it in. Obviously it needs an evolution (mega or otherwise) that makes it Steel/Flying and gives it a pot to wear on its head, thus taking the joke even further. Notably I'm not saying it needs to be any better than it already is, or than Steel/Flying would make it. Edit: Hell, make it a trade evolution that requires Metal Coat and pull a Scyther. Have it keep the same base stat total but mix it up a little and give it Steel in the typing.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:37
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Zahki posted:Thats uh, highly debatable considering Blaziken, Mewtwo, Garchomp, Scizor, Gengar, Alakazam and Tyranitar got one (two in Mewtwos case). Some poo poo Pokemon like Mawile and Banette got a nice boost yes, but it doesn't seem to be a method of helping to prop up the bad mons considering how many ridiculously strong Pokemon got an even bigger power boost. When 50% of Mega Evolutions go to the 1% in Pokemon terms I don't think you can call it an equalization measure.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:38
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Zahki posted:Thats uh, highly debatable considering Blaziken, Mewtwo, Garchomp, Scizor, Gengar, Alakazam and Tyranitar got one (two in Mewtwos case). Calaveron posted:And if the point is to make poo poo Pokemon usable, why not just tweak their stats to not make them awful? Calaveron posted:Or give them gimmicks and abilities that make them useful? Calaveron posted:And I've wanted a Farfetch'd evo ever since I saw this cool samurai-themed evolution Crosscontaminant fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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Nov 3, 2013 06:52
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Does anyone else kind of hate the ranking system in Rating Battles? It seems kinda hosed to me that you can win 1 match and never play again and end up ranking better than a player with an even win/loss ratio.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:53
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Calaveron posted:Sorry, I missed the previous generations, but what were the complaints on those guys? Gen IV added a ton of evolutions to old pokemon, many of which were Gen I. It made them a lot better by giving them access to new moves and better stats, but for the most part they looked AWFUL. A lot of people got pissed off because they viewed it as Gamefreak ruining their favorite pokemon by giving them hideous evolutions.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:55
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Crosscontaminant posted:Gimmicks don't work. Prankster would like to have a word with you.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:56
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TheEggsBenedict posted:Mega Blaziken, Scizor, and Alakazam aren't that much better than their original forms. Heck, Mega Garchomp and Mega Tyranitar are WORSE than their normal forms. Thats beside the point though, if Mega Evolutions were supposed to give a leg up to unused and unloved Pokemon it doesn't make sense that they'd give the majority of them to the most popular and powerful Pokemon around. I think it will get better in future generations though, assuming they retain it and keep adding new Mega Evolutions. Once we hit the point where 100 or so mons have megas choosing which one to slot into your team should be really interesting. quote:My post had more than one sentence. Have a look at the second one. Just saying that the point of Mega Evolution being to make poo poo Pokemon usable is wrong. Zahki fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Nov 3, 2013 |
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Internet Kraken posted:Gen IV added a ton of evolutions to old pokemon, many of which were Gen I. It made them a lot better by giving them access to new moves and better stats, but for the most part they looked AWFUL. A lot of people got pissed off because they viewed it as Gamefreak ruining their favorite pokemon by giving them hideous evolutions. I was really excited over most of the evolutions in Generation 4, honestly  Their designs are certainly a whole lot less hideous than like, 90% of the Mega Evolutions.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:57
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BingeHooligan posted:Prankster would like to have a word with you. Prankster is a gimmick in the way Mach Punch is a gimmick - it isn't one.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:57
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Internet Kraken posted:Gen IV added a ton of evolutions to old pokemon, many of which were Gen I. It made them a lot better by giving them access to new moves and better stats, but for the most part they looked AWFUL. A lot of people got pissed off because they viewed it as Gamefreak ruining their favorite pokemon by giving them hideous evolutions.
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Nov 3, 2013 06:59
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It was also the gen that gave us Yanmega, which is worth any number of Tangrowths.
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TheEggsBenedict posted:Weavile and Magnezone looked awesome. Lickilicky is The Coolest Motherfucker
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Internet Kraken posted:Gen IV added a ton of evolutions to old pokemon, many of which were Gen I. It made them a lot better by giving them access to new moves and better stats, but for the most part they looked AWFUL. A lot of people got pissed off because they viewed it as Gamefreak ruining their favorite pokemon by giving them hideous evolutions. Do Game Freak even listen to feedback anyway? I thought they were like most Nintendo studios, they live in their own little bubble and do their own thing.
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