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New Lamannia build up, some interesting changes to Epic PLs:quote:NEW: Healing Power has been renamed to Power over Life and Death. It now grants Negative Energy Spellpower in addition to Positive Energy. And some changes again to quest XP: quote:NEW: Experience for Desecrated Temple of Vol has been returned to the previous value: And some other tidbits: quote:NEW: Eldritch Strike now correctly costs 10 SP to use. Full list here and known issues here In other news I don't seem to be getting any TP from favor, TRed yesterday and got to 560 favor but no TP at all. I get the mails about it, tried relogging but nothing. Anyone else getting this?
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Super interested in Colors of the Queen now, it was cool before but 10 second cooldown is pretty drat reasonable, and it should be fun. Temple of Vol change is disappointing, having to go down the nasty trap side will suck. Though there at least used to be a safe way to walk through them, not sure if that's still around as I haven't went down that way in awhile. Sucks Delera's 4 got it's experience nerfed, but I doubt we'll be doing TRs instead of IRs again, so it's not really a big change (and first lifers it doesn't effect in any meaningful way). Devil Assault, Inferno, Missing Chain, Druids Deep Chain, High Road, The Riddle, these are all quests that could have used the bump, so glad to see that. As for the favor problem you're having, we haven't fresh TRed since shortly after U19 hit, but I got my TP just fine from hitting 2800 last night I'm pretty sure. Also has anyone running a wizard/monk staff build looked into using Eldritch Knight with it? I really want to find a good EK and Warpriest build to mess around with someday. Sirgog's 17 cleric/2 paladin/1 fighter Radiant Titan build looks interesting for the Warpriest front if I ever do another cleric life at least.
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DemonMage posted:Also has anyone running a wizard/monk staff build looked into using Eldritch Knight with it? I really want to find a good EK and Warpriest build to mess around with someday. Sirgog's 17 cleric/2 paladin/1 fighter Radiant Titan build looks interesting for the Warpriest front if I ever do another cleric life at least. Funnily enough, I was just today considering a 6 wiz/12 Monk/2 fighter build today using Eldritch Knight and Mountain stance with a staff for big PRR gains and everything. I was actually going to post a bit later on all the various permutations of builds that I'm considering for feedback etc. There's a lot of ideas bouncing around in my head and I need input 
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Various builds that I am considering, that are all ways of basically smashing faces with a two handed weapon, either an axe or quarterstaff. As a general rule, all builds have been made with either Dwarf, Warforged, Bladeforged or Shadar-Kai in mind (as they are basically my favourite races and I consider them well-suited for these) but you'd need LR tokens from the DDO store to make some of these work with the Bladeforged/Shadar-Kai. Thoughts/feedback of any of these welcome, help me sort out what I'm going to do in my next life because I'm paralysed by indecision! I'm sure there are glaring faults I've failed to see in some of these that absolutely kill the concept. I suppose choice of build might come down to one question - is Eldritch Knight any good? Do the various spellsword core enhancements stack, or can you only toggle one element on at a time? Are Eldritch Strike/Tempest as good as they sound? 12 Monk/6 Wizard/2 Fighter - This build would use a quarterstaff and Eldritch Knight enhancements. The spell point counter is a little wacky as it includes improved mental toughness. I know mental toughness isn't a great feat, but EK needs a lot of spell points if you're going to fire off it's abilities frequently, and Mental Toughness helps counter the low wizard level count. Also, this was done using Warforged instead of Bladeforged (although you'd need a LR+1 token to make this properly with a Bladeforged, but having access to Reconstruct would be really nice) but it would work with pretty much any race really. Just adjust stat points as required. You can really stack the PRR on this one if you use the right EDs and enhancements. code:code:code:code:Gammon fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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I think my wiz/mnk QS build would need about 60 more ap to spend on racial, mnk and rogue trees before I would start spending them in eldrich knight, there are just so many good enhancements for the build already. As for your first QS build gammon, I can't stress enough how valuable 2 rogue levels would be instead of 2 fighter levels. You really don't need those extra two feats and the 15% stacking haste and the better double strike attack are phenomenal.
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You're totally right, I completely forgot about Thief-Acrobat enhancements when I was putting that together. That 15% attack speed boost is crazy. I basically approached it as "how can I combine EK and monk" and was basically left with QS as the default weapon of choice, and basically left it at that, rather than saying "What's the best way to make use of a QS?". 12 Monk/6 Wiz/2 Rogue would absolutely be better, and I can see how someone might prefer 6 Monk/12 Wiz/2 Rogue for the Wraith form access. That was easily the build with the least thought put in to it though, and I'd probably prefer to do one of the other ones first honestly. And seconded for being able to get extra AP instead of EDs. I know some stuff in EDs is really unique...but equally, there's some enhancements it kills me not to take because I just don't have the points.
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Yeah, Necbromancer was the first person I saw doing that. I think he had a 12 Wiz/5 Rogue/3 Monk build. My understanding of it was to spend a lot in Thief-Acrobat to get the tier 5 stuff, 21 point in pale master, and then whatever is left in monk. You can do it using the Shadar-Kai and start at 15 too which is handy.
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Gammon posted:Yeah, Necbromancer was the first person I saw doing that. I think he had a 12 Wiz/5 Rogue/3 Monk build. My understanding of it was to spend a lot in Thief-Acrobat to get the tier 5 stuff, 21 point in pale master, and then whatever is left in monk. You can do it using the Shadar-Kai and start at 15 too which is handy. My build with necbromancer was that class layout. I took vault, quick strikes, and the enhancement that improved your staff crit threat range and multiplier then in henshin mystic I went for lighting the candle and the staff attacks. If I were to do anything I think I might drop the rogue and lose trap skills in favor of tier 5 monk, and replace the rogue with 2 or 3 levels of cleric for the divine disciple tree. You gain a fuckload of negative spellpower and negative spellcrit as well as access to heal as a class skill. The basic tradeoff becomes lose trap skills and UMD (if you dont want to be lawful good and take a boatload of extra evil damage its the only way to use sireth) for actual good self heals. I was rather disappointed with my healing ability on necbromancer myself, but then I didn't really have a bunch of endgame gear to boost it either.
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Perpetual Notion posted:I was rather disappointed with my healing ability on necbromancer myself, but then I didn't really have a bunch of endgame gear to boost it either. This was my biggest concern with your build and why I ended up going 11/6/3 as a warforge and ignoring PM, all the good buffs from wiz, reconstructs, and shadow fade from monk instead of wraith form. With u20, if I can purchase bladeforge after having not pre-order the last expanion, I will probably be ditching the wiz build for paladin since the buffs are all scrollable, but I do prefer the 3ish minute duration on casted haste/displace to the 30s scroll duration.
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Fenris13 posted:I think my wiz/mnk QS build would need about 60 more ap to spend on racial, mnk and rogue trees before I would start spending them in eldrich knight, there are just so many good enhancements for the build already. Been thinking more about this - a Shadar-Kai 12 wiz/7 monk/1 rogue would be a nice compromise I think. S-K doesn't have much worth taking, but gets its first level as a rogue and starts at 15 (which is a nice bonus) and the 12 wiz/7 monk lets you get grandmaster of forms via feats, pick up 6 bonus feats in total, a nice balance of hp/sp and you'd be able to max Concentration and Spellcraft for your skills, though Heal would sadly be cross-class. That one level of rogue lets you get the 15% attack speed boost for quarterstaves, and leaving you centred as well. The only real problem with the build is how to spend your AP, and no real options for in-combat healing (7 monk does give you Wholeness of Body though, which is pretty great outside of combat).
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Rolled 100 on silver 3 or 4 times now, always a +1 tome. Only useful things I ever get from DD are xp/slayer/loot potions. Edit: oh and U20 can't come soon enough, sitting at level 17 with every quest bar a couple from 13-15 done and some of the 16s but still 350k from rank 91. If this were post u20 I'd be 325k from cap and so would have tons of things to run. Woden fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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Woden posted:Edit: oh and U20 can't come soon enough, sitting at level 17 with every quest bar a couple from 13-15 done and some of the 16s but still 350k from rank 91. If this were post u20 I'd be 325k from cap and so would have tons of things to run. Just go run the Eveningstar Heroic Sagas, they're fun and new(ish) and you should easily hit 20 that way without it being terribly boring. Though it wouldn't surprise me if we saw U20 next week, maybe the week after I guess. I think my favorite Daily Dice result was getting a free Cosmetic Armor. Was one of the ones I like too, Crimson Royal Outfit. Of course you can't get Cosmetic stuff right now, but I think that's coming back with U20. Also I decided to use my free LR to do melee in the epic levels, due to throwing in monk late I wasn't able to build things as I would have if I'd started that way, but it's vastly better in epic levels than being a caster was. Pre-Epic I'd guess a caster is still probably better, but it's possible quarterstaff melee could be better for a cleric then too. Being a caster cleric isn't exactly bad in epic levels, but it's underwhelming solo/duo. Even on Epic Hard your DPS against single red named guys is pathetic. It's also difficult to get your Necro and Evoc DCs up enough to reliably land insta kills in EH, and of course it only works on trash mobs not green named things. And if you swap to Draconic or something to get your DPS up a bit, your spell penetration is down 5 points. Whereas I can Blitz up and just destroy a green named guy as a melee, while keeping 80-90% of my healing ability. I think if I did it again, I'd do either something like Sirgrogs I linked before, or if I wanted to stick with quarterstaves/monks/evasion: Lawful Neutral, 17 cleric/2 monk/1 rogue 36pt Stats Str: 16 (level ups here) Dex: 14 Con: 14 Int: 10 Wis: 10 Cha: 16 Cleric level skills: Concentration = Heal = UMD > Spellcraft Monk levels (2 & 3) skills: 1 tumble first level, then as above Rogue level (19) skills: Max out UMD Feats 1: Empower Healing, (H) Maximize 2(M): Power Attack 3: Cleave, (M) Two-Handed Fighting 6: Great Cleave 9: Improved Two-Handed Fighting 12: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning 15: Quicken 18: Greater Two-Handed Fighting 21: Overwhelming Critical 24: Free slot, Extend, Dodge, Lightning Reflexes possibly good ones 26: Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting (?) 27: Blinding Speed, or Epic Damage Reduction if you can/want to work Speed into your gear 28: Elusive Target (?) Endgame Enhancements Human: Damage Boost, Improved Recovery Henshin Mystic: Riddle of Fire, Staff Training I & II, Way of the Patient Tortoise, Quick Strike Thief-Acrobat: Staff Control, Thief-Acrobatics, Staff Training Radiant Servant: Core up to Improved Empower Healing, Extra Turning, Altruism, Improved Turning, Divine Healing 1, Martyrdom 1, Intense Healing, Endless Turning, Incredible Healing 1, Positive Energy Aura, Reactive Heal Warpriest: Core up to War Domain: Blur (or Sanctuary if you wanna drop Blur), Divine Might, Sacred Touch (or Toughness) 1, Smite Weakness, Wall of Steel, Inflame, Inflame: Saving Throws, Inflame: Energy Absorption 2, Ameliorating Strike Endgame Destinies Legendary Dreadnought: Extra Action Boost, Strength, Improved Power Attack, Momentum Swing, Lay Waste, Critical Damage, Action Boost: Haste 1, Lightning Mace, Advancing Blows, Pulverizer, Master's Blitz - Maybe trade Lightning Mace for Devastating Critical but 15% doublestrike is probably better than another Overwhelming Critical but it does require yet another button to hit. Twists: Brace for Impact, A Dance of Flowers, Sense Weakness/Grim Precision. Can drop Sense/Grim for Renewal if you need some extra party healing. ---- Not entirely sold on taking rogue so late. I guess you could drop dex down some and maybe go 8 wisdom and pump intelligence up enough to pick up some rogue skills (probably ignoring spellcraft too), but not sure it's really worth it. Would also delay your cleric spells even further. DemonMage fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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The enhancements are super super tight as is so I don't think I could fit in Poison Strikes, plus it's yet another attack to hit and this build is super button heavy as is. But yeah 2 rogue might be better overall. Worth considering at least. Buttons to hit constantly: Cleave, Great Cleave, Smite Foe, Lightning Mace, Quick Strike, Momentum Swing, Lay Waste Buffs to keep up: Healing Aura, Divine Might, and ideally you'd be keeping up Divine Favor and probably Divine Might Emergency Buttons: Haste Boost, Damage Boost, Inflame, Sanctuary, Thick Skinned, and of course Heals (Healing Burst, Heal, Mass Heal, Cure Critical) Ideally I'd like to get in some more Healing Amp from Human but there's no way I can fit in more than 1 rank and keep all the other good stuff. I'd consider dropping Inflame but I really like Ameliorating Strike. The heal from it is solid and the fact that it casts Lesser Restore is fantastic since stuff loves to spam Ray of Enfeeblement or Exhaustion and such.
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I meant poison weapon, the 1d8 on each hit, not the gimpy strikes. But yeah, I think if I did a melee cleric I would have to go heavy in one cleric tree not two. Even if you stuck heavy into cleric enhancements, at least with 2rogue/1monk you have a few more build options to experiment with, but I may be biased as I can't take the ithf line after using it a few builds ago and it felt completely wasted.
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DemonMage posted:Just go run the Eveningstar Heroic Sagas, they're fun and new(ish) and you should easily hit 20 that way without it being terribly boring. Though it wouldn't surprise me if we saw U20 next week, maybe the week after I guess. U20 is coming on the 12th of Nov apparently, Turbine did their usual thing of telling Massively instead of posting on the forums. Guess the best thing to do before then is get those EDs up to cap to make TRing a little less painful, no need to cap really as I'll be farming CoVs for a while anyway.
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Woden posted:U20 is coming on the 12th of Nov apparently That's what I figured. They're pretty drat consistent about doing Updates every 3 months and launching them in the middle of the month. The last 3 have been around the 20th instead, but it's always right around that 15-20th area. Looking forward to that, free Sireth and significantly better TRing and ERing is all good. Here's to hoping that the IR cache bug sticks around for so long that they're practically forced to make it a feature. Hell other than the Lifestealing nerf, I think it's pretty much an all good patch. Oh and changing it from one free LR per life to one free LR per character =-( [Edit] Also doing an LR+0 on Lammania they didn't really re-do that interface sadly. There's no way to go back if you gently caress up a level. It's in a cool new place now, but I was hoping for a Character Planner like interface to make sure you get poo poo done right while LRing and less screw ups with +1 and +3 hearts. [Edit2] On the Two-Handed Fighting line topic, it's definitely one of the things I would drop first in general, but with fully stacked Blitz on this build my glancing blows hit for 100-130 damage with just Improved Two-Handed Fighting, and it's AE that hits your current target as well. If you're able to stand still and have GTHF you're getting glancing blows on 75% of your attacks and they do 50% (60% with Perfect) of your normal attack damage. And 9%(19% with Perfect) chance to proc Holy and all that stuff that's on your weapons for a little bit more damage. With all the way up to Perfect I'd be doing something like 180 extra damage on 75% of my attacks while standing still. Of course if you're not Blitzing or you're moving around (which you do a lot in general and especially on EE) it's not nearly as useful. Also you can have fun watching me gently caress up in VoN 1 with my current version of the build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwL037SUt2k Mistakes: Should have used Earth stance instead of Wind. 2.5% doublestrike is nice, but the extra HP/PRR would have been way more useful. Even with just tier 1 stances. Used Master's Blitz too early/should have Energy Drained some more. I killed the guy 3-4 seconds after it fades, which makes it significantly harder. Fire Shield (Warm) would have been good. Polar Ray is what got me in the end. But more short duration buffs, ugh. Also shows why the Sirgrog version might be better overall, extra PRR, better saves (love those 400+ disintegrates), frees up a Twist. It's fun though. I wish Blitz let you bypass the Dodge cap, seems kinda silly to have it give +50% when unarmored cap is 25%. EE is always this fun clusterfuck of being perfectly fine and then a few good swings or spells land on you in a row and you're scrambling to try and heal. Not what I'd prefer for the balance, but it's still fun sometimes. And of course I'll be getting some more PRR here in the near future from gear upgrades and getting Sireth (once I unlock it anyways) would give me another 15 PRR, which would significantly cut down on the damage I'm taking. Extra 30 PRR would mean 15.3% less damage or cut 20-25 damage off trash. DemonMage fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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I am definitely appreciating the massive DPS increase - both overall and single target - once I switched from being unarmed monk to staff monk. Even though I hosed up my build and didn't take Improved Critical initially, and so don't have Overwhelming Critical yet (I will at 27 though), I find the trade off in damage to be worth a bit of a loss in versatility. I also find myself not really using Ki abilities at all anymore, mainly because stuff dies so quickly, but I was almost using the elemental attacks more for the buffs than the damage...and the buffs just generally aren't required anymore. Has not helped me at all with my build dilemma, but it's a good one to have! So uh...speculation for U21 yet?
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Gammon posted:So uh...speculation for U21 yet? It'll come out in Feb, possibly when the level cap raises to 30 (though this is probably later), and also including the new raid (featuring the dracolich from the new quests?). Possibly be slightly larger content wise than a normal patch (5+1 raid or maybe 6+1) since this one was so system heavy and only getting two quests. Probably include a new enhancement tree for someone as well. Producer's Letter posted:Update 21 (early 2014): A new threat (complete with multiple dragons), and a tribute to a classic Forgotten Realms module. DemonMage fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Not sure about a new enhancement tree(please be paladin or divine ED) but they've been working on 3 new Iconic races and if you did the survey about the TR changes there were questions about Iconic completionist. So more Iconics are probably on the way. If you're a THF you should grab Perfect TWF, the 5% doublestrike works for it and should be more DPS than PTHF. If you can though I guess you could take both.
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Hey guys, Rambuss here, been playing around with builds, but I don't know what constitutes bad rear end. If you guys could point out some powerful builds for me to study I'd appreciate that. Anyway, I wanted to make a dexterity based monk dual wielding long swords built around healing aura, divine healing, and various defenses to keep me alive and killing. It's light on skills, but I don't think that will matter much with how focused I tried to make the build. My only question (though I'm sure there are many flaws and foibles) is if I should just take mighty turning over wand mastery considering how few skill points the build has.code:Rainbow_Horse fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Nov 8, 2013 |
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- Two weapon defence is worthless. Drop it. - Try and get your base strength (including tome bonuses) to 14 so you can take Power Attack. - You'll get Adept of Forms as a free feat when you hit monk level 6. Try and fit in your monk levels earlier so you can take Master at 12 or 15 (12 is preferable) and Grandmaster at 18. - Do you actually have +5 ability tomes for everything? If not, you should adjust your build around what you do have (sounds like you have +3 tomes). - Unless you have a really good reason, be Lawful Good, not Lawful Neutral. - 18 Con is a bit hit to start with considering 8 is your base. Might be better off dropping down to 16 or 15, and putting those extra points in to strength (even if Dex is going to be used for your hit/damage modifiers) so you can qualify for feats and not be totally ruined by Rays of Enfeeblement. Extra Wisdom will help with Will saves and also your AC and some DCs, not to mention spell points. - If you're using Ki abilities at all, the tier 2 monk stuff which adds to concentration, saves and a bonus of some kind are amazing. - As a non-pure cleric, your turning ability will be poo poo. Don't even worry about it.
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Gammon posted:- Unless you have a really good reason, be Lawful Good, not Lawful Neutral. Here's a really good reason that applies to everyone. By going good you open yourself up to taking a crapton more damage and a negative level from some really great weapons/items. You're usually better off going neutral and just UMDing stuff.
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Wow, ok, shows what I know. Had no idea about the Good aligned characters taking more damage from certain mobs. I was more thinking of needing to be good in order to use certain weapons i.e. Sireth because I just don't have the skill points or charisma to get my UMD high enough.
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Nov 8, 2013 09:57
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If you're planning on using one of the divine EDs going good alignment can make some sense, Blessed Blades from EA gives your alignment to your weapons and Anoint Weapons from US gives +2d6 vs evil. I wish there was more of a reason to go LG but it's still generally a bad move. Just soloed EE The Lost Thread at level 20 on my monk abomination, was pretty fun. Only soloed the second half though as the Sorc I was with had to AFK at the lever part, but I had to do the tough stuff like the end fight alone.
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Nov 8, 2013 11:25
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Anyone got any suggestions for the end fight of Thrill of the Hunt? 300+ damage chain hits on EH will wreck you really fast, especially since the guy starts/stops his chain constantly. Not remotely worth the effort as is.
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