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Bicyclops posted:Sounds like anti-federation clothing commentary to me, Farmer Maquis! It's easy to wear pants in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. Out there in the demilitarised zone, all the problems haven't been solved yet. Out there, there are no pants, just people. Angry, scared people in their knickers who are going to do whatever it takes to avoid chafing and jock itch whether it meets with Federation approval or not.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:14
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I'm sure it gets awfully windy out in the demilitarised zone.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:26
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Just started S4E04 of Voyager. Nemesis. It's so scifi, these 'aliens' say 'glimpse' instead of 'look', 'trunks' instead of 'forest', 'nullified' instead of 'killed', and so much more. I really want to punch whoever wrote this teleplay, and I'm only 10 minutes in. Punch him right in his glimpser. :edit: Looked it up, and it's Biller again. I may have found a new Voyager person to hate. Brute Squad fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 03:36
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Can we just take a moment to appreciate how deeply hosed up and evil it is, on every level, that Gul Dukat phones Kira on her dead mom's birthday just to let her know her mom was a whore? I'm sitting here trying to think of a more evil Trek villain and I'm drawing a blank. More bad guys are megalomaniac stereotype evil but Dukat just doesn't even give a poo poo. He's phoning people at home just to continue the mindfucks. He's amazing 
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Nov 5, 2013 03:46
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Gul Dukat was the best villain.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:47
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I just wish he didn't do that crappy demon possessed thing in the last season. He was awesome until then, though.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:52
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kelvron posted:Just started S4E04 of Voyager. Nemesis. Tell me the tru tru.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:54
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Vagabundo posted:I'm sure it gets awfully windy out in the demilitarised zone. There's no wind in space, dummy
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Nov 5, 2013 03:55
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Tighclops posted:There's no wind in space, dummy 
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Nov 5, 2013 03:56
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jng2058 posted:I just wish he didn't do that crappy demon possessed thing in the last season. He was awesome until then, though. Other villains are evil but they're not "cosmetic disguise surgery so I can corrupt and also bone the Space Pope" evil.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:57
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jng2058 posted:I just wish he didn't do that crappy demon possessed thing in the last season. He was awesome until then, though. Season 7 kind of ruined everything
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Nov 5, 2013 04:06
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kelvron posted:Just started S4E04 of Voyager. Nemesis. Chakotay's universal translator got stuck on 'alienise' mode. Tighclops posted:There's no wind in space, dummy THEN HOW DO THEY SAIL 
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Nov 5, 2013 04:09
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Data Graham posted:Tell me the tru tru. It was a pretty good scifi story, but the execution was just so poorly paced. I guess they wanted to wait on the reveal of who Voyager was working with. The final act felt too rushed, and didn't really deliver on Chakotay losing his mind to the brainwashing. And the language changes. Language changes without context when Trek has their magic handwaving universal translators. It's the laziest of alienizing. I experienced bij not because it was bad, but because it was lazy. Welcome to Voyager's Next Gen episodes. And Dukat villain is the best villain. Because when he went crazy after losing his daughter, he went full-on balls-to-the-wall crazy. He still had the same desires, to make Bajorans love him, but decided to go about it in more and more erratic/absurd ways. I thought it was a good way to show how completely unhinged he'd become compared to his more nefarious villainy earlier int he series.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:16
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kelvron posted:It was a pretty good scifi story, but the execution was just so poorly paced. I guess they wanted to wait on the reveal of who Voyager was working with. The final act felt too rushed, and didn't really deliver on Chakotay losing his mind to the brainwashing. Yeah, I class that as one of the the Voyager episodes that could have been really good, but fell through due to lazy writing/reset buttons/etc
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Nov 5, 2013 04:24
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Yeah, I have no interest in re-watching Nemesis. Not in the now, nor in the hereafter.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:25
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What I like about Dukat's villainy is how it is grounded in who he is as a man and how that's expressed through his actions. He's entirely real and consistant. As dumb as the pah'wraith thing was, it's the logical result of his desire to be the exact opposite to Sisko.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:27
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Just saw Things Past. Reconfirmed: DS9 is the best Star Trek. Necessary Evil, The Visitor, Little Green Men, and Trials and Tribbleations are all among my favorites so far. I probably should have watched all of DS9 and then all of Voyager instead of alternating by airdate, because Voyager just looks that much worse this way (although Future's End was halfway decent and you can add Sarah Silverman to the list of people they should have added to the main cast.)
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Nov 5, 2013 04:33
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Tighclops posted:There's no wind in space, dummy Bullshit, I've seen Captain Harlock
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Nov 5, 2013 04:34
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I liked the Voyager S3 episode Fair Trade, too. I wonder what made it so good? Was it because it was set on a space station in the middle of nowhere, people passing through and making shady deals, events that change the nature of some of the main characters' relationships with each other...nah, couldn't be.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:35
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Tighclops posted:There's no wind in space, dummy There's no quality in your posts, silly. 
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Nov 5, 2013 04:44
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Mr. Jive posted:It's easy to wear pants in paradise, but the Maquis do not live in paradise. Out there in the demilitarised zone, all the problems haven't been solved yet. Out there, there are no pants, just people. Angry, scared people in their knickers who are going to do whatever it takes to avoid chafing and jock itch whether it meets with Federation approval or not. It's also quite cold if you couldn't tell.
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Did the old Cardassian politician from the DS9 episode Second Skin ever show up again? I recently rewatched that ep and wondered if the relationship between him and Kira ever went anywhere.
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Angry Walrus posted:Did the old Cardassian politician from the DS9 episode Second Skin ever show up again? I recently rewatched that ep and wondered if the relationship between him and Kira ever went anywhere. Yeah definitely does. Ties of Blood and Water in season 5 finishes that little plot string up nicely. I wouldn't suggest watching that one without watching the episodes between.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Yeah definitely does. Ties of Blood and Water in season 5 finishes that little plot string up nicely. I wouldn't suggest watching that one without watching the episodes between. Very under appreciated episode in my opinion.
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Nov 5, 2013 05:08
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Well I knew it was a fan favorite but damned if In The Pale Moonlight didn't make me squeal like a little girl multiple times.
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Scudworth posted:Can we just take a moment to appreciate how deeply hosed up and evil it is, on every level, that Gul Dukat phones Kira on her dead mom's birthday just to let her know her mom was a whore? Aaaaaand then of course it takes the entire episode for Kira to understand that her mom sucked Cardie dick for 7 years so she could live, and she still hates her for it. Oh, Kira.
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Scudworth posted:Aaaaaand then of course it takes the entire episode for Kira to understand that her mom sucked Cardie dick for 7 years so she could live, and she still hates her for it. Oh, Kira. But but COLLABORATOR I just realized that the past five episodes I've seen have all dealt in some way with situations where there was no clear right and wrong, and characters were forced to make choices they'd rather not have made. Good job, season 6 showrunners!
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showbiz_liz posted:Well I knew it was a fan favorite but damned if In The Pale Moonlight didn't make me squeal like a little girl multiple times. It's my favorite episode of DS9, hands down.
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In The Pale Moonlight is the All Blacks of Star Trek episodes.
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Vagabundo posted:In The Pale Moonlight is the All Blacks of Star Trek episodes. I had to google this to make sure you weren't talking poo poo about Avery Brooks. Can all future sports analogies be American Football or NASCAR so that American posters aren't inconvenienced? TIA And yeah, In The Pale Moonlight is hands down Best DS9, and might be Best Trek episode of all time. It's not just great Trek, it's great Television.
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Otisburg posted:I had to google this to make sure you weren't talking poo poo about Avery Brooks. Can all future sports analogies be American Football or NASCAR so that American posters aren't inconvenienced? TIA American sports is the Pakleds of sports. Just be thankful I'm not doing as many cricket references as I was a few pages ago.
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Vagabundo posted:American sports is the Pakleds of sports. Just be thankful I'm not doing as many cricket references as I was a few pages ago. So what you're saying is, don't underestimate American sports? Good advice. 
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DrNutt posted:So what you're saying is, don't underestimate American sports? Good advice. What I'm saying is, you have to be a Voyager to enjoy American sports. 
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Vagabundo posted:American sports is the Pakleds of sports. Just be thankful I'm not doing as many cricket references as I was a few pages ago. We look for things. Man, if Gul Dukat went up against Picard, Dukat would have ended up wearing Picard's flensed-off face for laughs, wouldn't he? Dukat was too hardcore to be a TNG villain to be dealt with by treknobabble and Picards speeches about the superiority of Space Socialism.
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Vagabundo posted:American sports is the Pakleds of sports. Just be thankful I'm not doing as many cricket references as I was a few pages ago. I just have to ask do you have a pun bell and currently watching Cricket live in India?
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God, can you imagine how retarded gridiron is in the Federation future? You think it's just rugby for pussies now, you just wait until players hit the field wearing ambo-jyutsu kit, while computers are monitoring player trajectories and manipulating their momentum to be non-injurious with forcefields and tractor beams. Also the pigskin is a Koosh ball.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:God, can you imagine how retarded gridiron is in the Federation future? You think it's just rugby for pussies now, you just wait until players hit the field wearing ambo-jyutsu kit, while computers are monitoring player trajectories and manipulating their momentum to be non-injurious with forcefields and tractor beams. We have moved beyond the primitive need to "gain yardage" in this ritualized territorial aggression. We are content to explore the field in mutual cooperation with the opposing team and work out our differences nonviolently.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:God, can you imagine how retarded gridiron is in the Federation future? You think it's just rugby for pussies now, you just wait until players hit the field wearing ambo-jyutsu kit, while computers are monitoring player trajectories and manipulating their momentum to be non-injurious with forcefields and tractor beams. Its Kosh?
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Otisburg posted:We have moved beyond the primitive need to "gain yardage" in this ritualized territorial aggression. We are content to explore the field in mutual cooperation with the opposing team and work out our differences nonviolently. So, soccer then?
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