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House Louse posted:his endings are underrrated. the political thrillers that actually try to have proper endings just suck at it, at least in his sf it's deliberate anathem becomes a completely different novel in the last quarter, with a different premise and different characters that inexplicably share the same name as earlier chapters that novella-length final section isn't so bad in itself but it's painfully disconnected from the rest, hanging on a macguffin it's not unsatisfying in the same way as, say, snow crash
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yeah anathem gets really weird at the end at a couple of points it literally just abruptly switches into a different narrative stream entirely; the rationale being that we're now seeing the story in a different universe where it turns out differently it took me a couple of rereads of that part to get my head around it
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thinking back on firefly inara was really all the worst parts of that show. adam baldwin owns and is the best baldwin by miles
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yeah inara and mechanic waifu are terrible and river phoenix, the psychic girl or whatever. she's the actual worst
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Shaggar posted:thinking back on firefly inara was really all the worst parts of that show. na space prostitutes are the best idea but then it tried reeealllly hard to be like "b-b-b-but shes not just a prostitute hold on look at all this training she had not everyone wants just sex"
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Nov 5, 2013 22:11
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:yeah inara and mechanic waifu are terrible thats some solid sexism you got going on when really kaylee is the best female character
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Nov 5, 2013 22:12
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the assistant captain was also real bad as a female character but she wasn't nearly as annoying and forced
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:the assistant captain was also real bad as a female character but she wasn't nearly as annoying and forced what no she was the worst. she was "stereotypical man behavior but actually a woman!!" through and through
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Nov 5, 2013 22:13
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:what no she was the worst. she was "stereotypical man behavior but actually a woman!!" through and through yeah she was very bad as a female character but joss whedon isn't nearly as bad at writing men so she ends up being very tolerable if you pretend she's just another guy
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:what no she was the worst. she was "stereotypical man behavior but actually a woman!!" through and through i'm not seeing it. if anything they laid it on with a trowel: oveblown girly-girl who is also a competent engineer seen doing and caring about her job i didn't see any stereotypical man behavior, unless we restrict working with mechanical things to men
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:idk i thought they laid the femininity on thick with a trowel yeah that's kaylee but he's talking about the second in command lady who is all man business
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Nov 5, 2013 22:20
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:yeah that's kaylee but he's talking about the second in command lady who is all man business oh. yeah. tomboy stereotype hardcore the only quality moments with that character pertained to her husband on board
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:Yeah, I mean I completely respect it for that, its just that there are parts I'm reading where its obvious this would be 'the cool part' where he is basically describing Second Life or MMO's or whatever to a early 90s audience and I feel bad because its not having the intended effect. stephenson cyberspace is an amateurish ramshackle low-poly mess with ads plastered on every surface and giant talking dicks wandering around i actually think you're receiving precisely the intended effect
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:yeah that's kaylee but he's talking about the second in command lady who is all man business yeh this i dont think ive ever heard anyone complain about kaylee.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:anathem becomes a completely different novel in the last quarter, with a different premise and different characters that inexplicably share the same name as earlier chapters haven't read that one yet actually. but cryptonomicon has a great ending, diamond age's is open to possibility in a good way and snow crash's at least is deliberate unlike cobweb's/interface's failure to thrill.
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also i really enjoyed the baroque cycle
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:yeh this she's just written way over the top and ham fisted but hey it's sci-fi. at least it's something new
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Usagi-Sauce posted:gibson cyberspace is an astonishing multidimensional realm of fractal geometries and perfect visual representation stephenson cyberspace is today's second life
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:she's just written way over the top and ham fisted but hey it's sci-fi. at least it's something new the entire series is silly and over the top. im trying to think of other series that arent exactly lighthearted but are clearly just to be enjoyed for what they are so they shouldnt be taken seriously.
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raruler posted:stephenson cyberspace is today's second life he only went wrong when he imagined that most people would want this to be their normal mode of interaction with the internet when even in the 1990s its major appeal was novelty value
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:anathem is also really good. at least the first thousand pages. the ending is, like so many stephenson novels, unsatisfying i liked anathem all the way through, and liked snow crash as well. read the first book of the baroque cycle and just did not give a single gently caress though
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Shaggar posted:adam baldwin owns and is the best baldwin by miles 
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Nov 5, 2013 22:56
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protip hes not actually a baldwin brother
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it must really suck being constantly mistaken as a lesser baldwin
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all baldwin brothers are baldwins, not all baldwins are baldwin brothers
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raruler posted:all baldwin brothers are baldwins, not all baldwins are baldwin brothers okay wow, hold on. you're gonna have to slow down here. you're going way too fast and just rapidfiring all of these concepts at me.
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Usagi-Sauce posted:gibson cyberspace is an astonishing multidimensional realm of fractal geometries and perfect visual representation i never understood how either of them would be better than a web browser tbh
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Improbable Lobster posted:i never understood how either of them would be better than a web browser tbh compare the lawnmower man vs. the social network
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hubris.height posted:snow crash is likely to be my next audible buy Larry Niven posted:She ran her fingertips along the side of his neck. Now she was using both hands. She touched him on the chest, and here, and there, and suddenly Louis Wu was blind with lust. 
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i've never seen it but i just imagine one long scene of mark zuckerberg and tom from myspace arguing while walking down the westwing hallway to awesome nin music nothing will ever match my expectations so i havent seen it
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welp; Doom the movie was an accurate representation of the game it was dark
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best part of the doom movie: the rock, about to be dragged into zombie hell, looks directly into the camera and says "I'm not supposed to die!"
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haveblue posted:best part of the doom movie: "i'm not supposed to die!!" but yah i lolled  despite fistfights being kinda out of place in the setting, the last fight was fun in that both guys were on beserker packs and so could take and dish out ridiculous damage.
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haveblue posted:the weed of unprotected sex bears bitter fruit
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lol at people bitching about firefly's characterization being flat. the show lasted for like 9 episodes no poo poo they're underdeveloped. and their still better developed than like half of tng's main cast was after 7 seasons. like can you even name any personality traits that geordi has other than that he's goony as all living gently caress? im not saying whedon is a great writer or anything but lol at expecting deep and meaningful characterizations from a network sci-fi show that got canned midway theough season 1
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