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Why is this on my Google News feed? Is President Obama toxic for the Democratic Party? "This is a rush transcript from 'Hannity', November 6, 2013" e: oh rad, it's Hannity and Coulter doing some hard hitting analysis e2: lol its all about the VA race and why Christie is a loser, good work guys. Phone fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bogus-copyright-claims-gordon-klingenschmitt-take-down-right-wing-watch-youtube-account Some dipshit got RightWingWatch's youtube account terminated. The party of personal responsibility wants to be sure you can't see records of any statements they make.
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Nov 7, 2013 20:14
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Aren't statements by political figures generally (if not always) considered eligible for fair use under copyright law?
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Nov 7, 2013 20:17
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Fray posted:Aren't statements by political figures generally (if not always) considered eligible for fair use under copyright law? They probably are, but YouTube's flag system is automated, iirc, so if you get enough assholes to abuse it you can get whatever you want taken down no matter what.
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Nov 7, 2013 20:21
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Seems like a rehash of what happened to Anita Sarkeesian; however, it took a little while longer because Republicans aren't as agile in automated system abuse on the intertubes like their reddit counterparts. It should come back up within a day or two.
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Nov 7, 2013 20:23
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FuzzySkinner posted:These are people that...no joke..said the "MILEY CYRUS TWERKING" incident was the "Darkest Moment" in our nation's history (without a sense of irony). They must have the attention span of a gnat. Wait, what? I never followed that whole thing. I just remember seeing Miley Cyrus crap constantly pop up on Google News or whatever long after the fact. "Look what Miley Cyrus is doing now! Wow!" I just kept wondering why the gently caress does anyone care and why the gently caress do people keep clicking on this poo poo so that more of it keeps popping up. Maybe it was just a bunch of angry old conservatives clicking on that crap to fuel their rage?
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Nov 7, 2013 20:46
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Zwabu posted:It will be interesting to see if The Washington Post picks up its game under Jeff Bezos' ownership. I've noticed that they are now suddenly enforcing their paywall. Not sure if it's related but Jennifer Rubin ("Right Turn" right wing shill) has been pounding steadily on the "Tea Party Must Go/GOP must turn towards sanity and moderation" drumbeat, really consistently, over the last month or so since the shutdown. From last page, but the safest assumption to make about Jennifer Rubin is that she's carrying water for someone.
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Kenzie posted:Wait, what? I never followed that whole thing. 9/10th's naked 19 year old female was the reason.
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Nov 7, 2013 21:03
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We have been automating for over 100 years now. Why has unemployment still remained fairly low outside of recessions? You'd think that the industrial revolution would have caused far more long-term affects, yet people still found new work. The difference I can see now is that entrepreneurship is low, startups tend to be bought up by bigger conglomerates, and thus we rely on big business which is content to outsource as much as possible. Automation has very little to do with any of that. Can someone explain why automation is the big boogy man right now?
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Nov 7, 2013 21:56
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anonumos posted:We have been automating for over 100 years now. Why has unemployment still remained fairly low outside of recessions? You'd think that the industrial revolution would have caused far more long-term affects, yet people still found new work. Only recently has automation come to replace jobs entirely, rather than enhance production. But it's not like this kind of thing happens overnight. An increasing amount of jobs are also fairly bullshit service sector jobs, but as automation encroaches upon the middle-class jobs which normally sustain a strong service sector... boner confessor fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 21:59
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Only recently has automation come to replace jobs entirely, rather than enhance production. I guess that depends on which job you're looking at ("horse handler doesn't count as a job!").
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Nov 7, 2013 22:00
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computer parts posted:I guess that depends on which job you're looking at ("horse handler doesn't count as a job!"). To be pedantic there's a difference between eliminating jobs through obsolescence and replacing a human with a machine to perform a necessary task. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 22:03
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Popular Thug Drink posted:To be pedantic there's a difference between eliminating jobs through obsolescence and replacing a human with a machine to perform a necessary task.
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Business Gorillas posted:What exactly happened with that, anyways? I first started driving in ~2004 and I remember gas around $2/gallon. All that I really remember is once Katrina hit everyone lost their marbles and the price of gasoline skyrocketed. Why is it that the price of gas in some places has almost doubled in ~8 years? It gets a bit more complicated than that
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While oil production/consumption is normally the dominant factor, speculation also does contribute to oil prices, and certainly towards volatility.quote:WASHINGTON — When oil prices hit a record $147 a barrel in July 2008, the Bush administration leaned on Saudi Arabia to pump more crude in hopes that a flood of new crude would drive the price down. The Saudis complied, but not before warning that oil already was plentiful and that Wall Street speculation, not a shortage of oil, was driving up prices. (the price plunged 50% within a month) I'm not a financial expert and I haven't performed a deep analysis here, but 2007/2008 was also the runup to the financial crisis. I suspect oil was subject to similar forces as many other commodities during this time: there were a lot of dollars trying to chase commodities, and not enough bona fide market activity to absorb the speculation. The smoke was definitely beginning to pour out of the housing market too, although a commodity directly linked to economic activity would not be a good pick in hindsight. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 23:25
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Dr. Faustus posted:I dunno about that. I guess the difference is that replacing a human with a machine to do a necessary job makes the human obsolete, and not the job? Still, obsolescence is the driving factor in eliminating jobs in both cases. Well, there just isn't much demand for horse grooms anymore. There is still demand for washing machines, except that human labor is becoming more irrelevant with the ability to generate synthetic labor. The job hasn't been eliminated, the type of labor has. Of course, the only reason this is considered a bad thing is because we cling to the idea that people have to economically justify their existence. If we didn't expect people to compete for increasingly scarce jobs and then blame their inevitable failure on moral shortcomings then who cares how much labor is automated. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 23:40
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Popular Thug Drink posted:The job hasn't been eliminated, the type of labor has. Isn't that what I said? quote:Of course, the only reason this is considered a bad thing is because we cling to the idea that people have to economically justify their existence. If we didn't expect people to compete for increasingly scarce jobs and then blame their inevitable failure on moral shortcomings then who cares how much labor is automated.
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Here's a fun one... http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/11/07/laura-ingraham-forgets-when-the-government-shut/196783 quote:On November 7, the Commerce Department released its latest economic growth estimate for the third quarter of 2013. These data, which track the growth of gross domestic product (GDP) from July through September 2013, revealed a 2.8 percent growth rate over that three-month period.
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Nov 8, 2013 00:43
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Here's a fun one... Gee Laura, you can't spare 5 seconds to read the first sentence of the article?
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Nov 8, 2013 01:05
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Here's a fun one... Hm yes third quarter economic results would definitely include the government shutdown that began on October 1st, because I have the cognitive abilities of a third-grader and haven't figured out how to divide 4 into 12 yet.
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anonumos posted:We have been automating for over 100 years now. Not on this level, no. I get what you're saying but the mainstreaming of the internet, computers, phones, card swiping and all that stuff is way more exponentially impactful than anything Henry Ford or GM came up with relating to assembly line robots and poo poo like that. No one can tell me that eliminating STORES doesn't hurt job growth. Like someone else posted, so far robots and computers can't make hamburgers and pizzas, change sheets or greet you at a hotel but the jobs that I cited that have been effectively eliminated by modern technology I think are are a legitimate cause for high unemployment. Then again, this has nothing to with right wing media or rush Limbaugh and I'm de-realing my own thread with this bullshit.
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Sounds like an interesting topic for a thread though.
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My local right wing head has now declared that the recent elections are in fact a great defeat for lie-beralism and the democrat party. Any day now they'll get another tea party tsunami. Also New York City is actually fairly conservative and will turn on de Blasio after the brown criminal hordes return en masse after stop and frisk is repealed. Wait what? The brown criminal hordes were the ones who voted him in, with 74% of the vote? Up is down, night is day, etc, etc. I think these people are seriously bipolar, they switch between proclaiming doom for liberals and the inevitable victory of liberalism probably once every few minutes at least. Constant shifting of rhetorical focus, etc, etc. The catch though is that Eco said right after that that the fascists are bound to lose because of it. 
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icantfindaname posted:My local right wing head has now declared that the recent elections are in fact a great defeat for lie-beralism and the democrat party. Any day now they'll get another tea party tsunami. Also New York City is actually fairly conservative and will turn on de Blasio after the brown criminal hordes return en masse after stop and frisk is repealed. Wait what? The brown criminal hordes were the ones who voted him in, with 74% of the vote? Up is down, night is day, etc, etc. New York City is "fairly conservative" now? I thought it was a glaring example of out-of-touch, "non-genuine America" alongside all the other urban centers in blue states, at least when the conversation isn't about 9/11.
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The implication was that even as liberal as NYC is, they'll turn on him when the city immediately revers to a 70s era hellhole without stop and frisk and with Blasio's socialism. Never mind that de Blasio literally got 75% of the vote.
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Nov 8, 2013 08:50
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Paul MaudDib posted:While oil production/consumption is normally the dominant factor, speculation also does contribute to oil prices, and certainly towards volatility.
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icantfindaname posted:My local right wing head has now declared that the recent elections are in fact a great defeat for lie-beralism and the democrat party. Any day now they'll get another tea party tsunami. Also New York City is actually fairly conservative and will turn on de Blasio after the brown criminal hordes return en masse after stop and frisk is repealed. Wait what? The brown criminal hordes were the ones who voted him in, with 74% of the vote? Up is down, night is day, etc, etc. I think the checklist for "symptoms" of being a Fascist is that your enemy is both incredibly powerful & conniving as well as weak & stupid.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:I think the checklist for "symptoms" of being a Fascist is that your enemy is both incredibly powerful & conniving as well as weak & stupid. That's the shifting of rhetorical focus he is talking about. It comes from this Eco piece: http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
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icantfindaname posted:The implication was that even as liberal as NYC is, they'll turn on him when the city immediately revers to a 70s era hellhole without stop and frisk and with Blasio's socialism. Never mind that de Blasio literally got 75% of the vote. The only thing I worry about is wall street's aggressive lobbying against him during his term to hamstring him at every opportunity. He's got a lot of tough hardcore fights ahead of him, but he's got the right ideas and knows what he's up against. Rationally speaking, he can beat wall street by being relentless when dealing with them and also by appealing directly to the fine people who voted him in. PeterWeller posted:That's the shifting of rhetorical focus he is talking about. It comes from this Eco piece: http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html Long as we're talking about Eco, I want to pull out this part to think about a bit: quote:11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. I'm rather interested in the concept that heroism can be commodified - a 'commodification of heroism' if you will. (Or 'commode of heroism' if you prefer.) Real heroes don't ask to be heroes or are aware that they are heroes - that's a definition that gets stamped on them by society later, as they become role models for others and sources of admiration. (And often even considered more admirable when their human flaws and frailties are discovered.) There is a basic human need to revere others and put them on pedestals for exemplifying the traits we ourselves aspire to - there's nothing wrong with that inherently either - when those traits are humanitarian and compassionate, they make us all better people. But prefab false heroism lies to people and tells everyone that they can either become paint-by-numbers heroes if they follow these orders, earn these medals, exalt this nationalism, belong to this ethnic group, mass-execute these people, etc. It's a 'hero assembly line' of lies and mind pollution that takes the desire innate in us all to become heroes and subverts it into twisted inhuman cruelty. A real hero is someone with the agency that reflects heroic qualities. You definitely don't get that by following cruel orders and getting a medal pinned to your chest for it. Anyway - an image came to my mind when reading this Eco line of a 'factory' churning out tons of deluded 'heroes' that then just march blindly to their graves, murdering and beating others along with them - and then getting a stamp of heroism on each of their millions upon millions of endless coffins. Why, one would think the whole nation was made up entirely of heroes. If one were a fool. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 8, 2013 |
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:I think the checklist for "symptoms" of being a Fascist is that your enemy is both incredibly powerful & conniving as well as weak & stupid. It's on the checklist for "are you a marginalized group y/n" in general.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:I think the checklist for "symptoms" of being a Fascist is that your enemy is both incredibly powerful & conniving as well as weak & stupid. The only message that matters is the one that supports my argument. We must increase the military's size because if we don't we'll be buried in a deluge of Bad People. Oh, you should join up, not like you'll be in any danger. The Enemy is too weak and stupid to kill you and can't beat us. Victory will be here any day we have such an enormous advantage. But you need to not complain about the cut back on the chocolate ration. We need every shred of resources to fight The Enemy that we can get or we'll lose.
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Spacedad posted:But prefab false heroism lies to people and tells everyone that they can either become paint-by-numbers heroes if they follow these orders, earn these medals, exalt this nationalism, belong to this ethnic group, mass-execute these people, etc. Is this anything like being a "Great American" for listening and calling in to certain radio shows?
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I caught Hannity talking to this sports writer lady right when he was quizzing her on her golf game. "Pffft, yeah. What do you score when you play?" "I usually end up beneath 100, I guess." "Hahaha, yeah, I'm way better than you!" "Of course you are, Hannity! All you have to do is recite talking points and go hit the links whenever you want. I don't have that luxury." "Oh whatever! I wake up at 7 in the morning and I'm doing research all day long! I hardly have any time to do anything!" Then where the gently caress does he find the time to become #1 golfmaster? Is his natural white maleness so powerful that he innately has the power to play a mean game of golf whenever he has time in his excruciating schedule of professional smirking? For the record, she was arguing that Icognito's behavior towards his junior teammate was not acceptable. Hannity, of course, argued that it was a "big brother, little brother relationship." You know, like when your big brother calls you a "friend of the family" and threatens to kill you.
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Joementum posted:Some people think that global warming is being caused by atmospheric pollution, other people, like almost-Texas-Senate-candidate David Barton, think that it is being caused by sluts. Both sides raise valid arguments, so let's have the debate! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cff_1383707626
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Zwabu posted:Is this anything like being a "Great American" for listening and calling in to certain radio shows? It's more like anyone being in the military or law enforcement being above criticism because they are a 'hero' by default for having that job. 'How dare you challenge my 14 hour search of a man's anus? I'm a hero on the front lines of the drug war.'
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McDowell posted:It's more like anyone being in the military or law enforcement being above criticism because they are a 'hero' by default for having that job. I think that the "Great American" bullshit applies as well. Conservatives often see themselves as heroic by default for being a conservative. They consider America to be the greatest country on the planet, yet they hate most Americans and anyone who isn't a conservative. Why is America the greatest country on the planet? Because of conservatives and conservative values of course. They think they are the reasons why America is the greatest country on the planet, which elevates them to the greatest human beings on the planet as well. Many of them also believe that God is on their side, and that the all-powerful creator of the entire universe has a direct interest in what they do every day. If that isn't the height of human arrogance and false heroism I don't know what is.
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:Then where the gently caress does he find the time to become #1 golfmaster? Is his natural white maleness so powerful that he innately has the power to play a mean game of golf whenever he has time in his excruciating schedule of professional smirking? No, that's it really. It's a Glorious Leader thing comparable to when North Koreans got told that Kim Jong-Il was the best golfer ever and accomplished things that were more or less impossible. Hannity plays himself up like a Great White Hero that's just naturally good at everything because white guys are the pinnacle of humanity and he's one of the pinnacles of white guyness. Because he's IMPORTANT because people LISTEN TO HIM. It's easier for totalitarians to keep their control that way if they manage to find reasons they're better than everybody else. It's why there's so much "conservatism is literally the best thing ever and white men are better than everybody else" wrapped up in it. White men get to be in charge because they deserve it.
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Kenzie posted:I think that the "Great American" bullshit applies as well. Conservatives often see themselves as heroic by default for being a conservative. They consider America to be the greatest country on the planet, yet they hate most Americans and anyone who isn't a conservative. Why is America the greatest country on the planet? Because of conservatives and conservative values of course. They think they are the reasons why America is the greatest country on the planet, which elevates them to the greatest human beings on the planet as well. Many of them also believe that God is on their side, and that the all-powerful creator of the entire universe has a direct interest in what they do every day. If that isn't the height of human arrogance and false heroism I don't know what is. Yeah my remark was a specific dig at Hannity. Haven't listened in quite some time so I don't know if he still does it, but part of his shtick was that he'd tell every bootlicking right wing caller "YOU'RE A GREAT AMERICAN." Doesn't know anything about the person aside from they adore Hannity and agree with what he says, so that's the criteria for "Great American".
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My favorite part of Hannity is every time he does his show intro there's a line that says "welcome to the revolution." If you look up "milquetoast establishment motherfucker" in the dictionary, there is a picture of Hannity doing that stupid smug rear end in a top hat smile of his. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, and when the establishment is imaginary pretend socialist, only the hardcore establishment will be revolutionary.
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Walter posted:It's depressing how many people on here were libertarians / Republicans as kids. I know I can't be the only one who posts in D&D who, as a child / teenager, was capable of empathy. If a person was capable of basic empathy or understanding of humans when they were teenagers, odds are they wouldn't end up on Something Awful.
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