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Section Z posted:Edit Two: Enemy Psychic Sniper Mind Control against your Sectoid, fails. Sectoids have pretty high will. Mind Control should fail against them frequently.
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SBJ posted:Is it normal for my first Ironman Classic run to have a hall of fame that is 2 pages long and be down by 3 countries before I even assault the alien base? I think your trouble is being in month 3 without finishing either lasers or carapace armor. What on earth have you been researching? Lasers, man! Get your redshirts all fired up about being able to use an honest-to-god laser gun. PEW PEW. They'll perform better just out of pure excitement. Or take a plasma shot to the face. Deuce fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Nov 10, 2013 |
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Hot Dog Day #31 posted:How did you people get into X-Com if you're willing to let those civvies die? You listen to that music and tell me it's OK to let em die http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb4NPmZ_zmg&list=PLc5Ywe-KmiGMa_ChG42NyRw7kS_pmKmtK I've lost a lot of good men and women but they died defending the human race dammit, and those people in terror missions, well they're human and they need defendin' Thanks, Hot Dog Day, your words inspired me. Finally worked up the courage to head into that first Terror Mission. Wounds from an Abduction just a few days before (I believe I've heard people refer to it as the "Death Highway" map) meant my team going in was an Lt. Heavy, a Cpl. Support, 3 Snipers, and a Rookie. Thank you to whoever recommended OTS over rushing more sats, because I juuust managed to squeeze in that second squad size increase. So, yeah - three sniper rifles, two with laser pistols; one LMG + one rocket; two laser rifles with normal pistols. No casualties, 13/18 civilians saved. gently caress you, Chrysalids. 
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Nov 10, 2013 16:36
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Brainamp posted:The few times I've played, the berserker team with sniper support was my favorite gimmick team, especially on the bar map. Scout out with the sniper, he's not really important, but keep all your angry mans out of sight. The second your opponent steps out into view, you bullrush that poo poo. Of course, if your opponent is a camper, then it becomes a game of who gets bored first. I much preferred the Three Muton + Sectoids team. Use your sectoid to trigger the overwatch, then rush in 3 alien grenades immediately.
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Ghost of Starman posted:Thanks, Hot Dog Day, your words inspired me. Finally worked up the courage to head into that first Terror Mission. Wounds from an Abduction just a few days before (I believe I've heard people refer to it as the "Death Highway" map) meant my team going in was an Lt. Heavy, a Cpl. Support, 3 Snipers, and a Rookie. Thank you to whoever recommended OTS over rushing more sats, because I juuust managed to squeeze in that second squad size increase. Playing this with every terror mission now.
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Nov 10, 2013 17:44
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Deuce posted:Playing this with every terror mission now. Bonus is that you can use the very next track of the Starship Troopers soundtrack for every terror mission when things turn sour.
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Nov 10, 2013 18:03
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The Starship Troopers reference is done admirably well in video by Beaglerush and it is every bit as awesome as you can imagine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmsbrhCuN0g&t=625s
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Nov 10, 2013 18:56
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EW will unlock around 5am GMT if I'm using a VPN on Tuesday, right? I recall SR4 unlocking at a similar time. I'm way too impatient to hold back until Friday.
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Nov 10, 2013 20:25
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drat, I assume Beaglerush never got a preview code then? That sucks, and was a terrible decision from the Firaxis PR team.
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Nov 10, 2013 22:23
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Darkrenown posted:drat, I assume Beaglerush never got a preview code then? That sucks, and was a terrible decision from the Firaxis PR team. Or maybe they did and he's waiting til launch day?
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Nov 10, 2013 22:32
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Kind of a waste then, surely? He could just play the full version. Not impossible though I suppose.
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Nov 10, 2013 22:35
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Darkrenown posted:Kind of a waste then, surely? He could just play the full version. Not impossible though I suppose. I mean, to post it. Otherwise he'd have to wait a couple of weeks to play it, then get footage and edit it. 
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The Steam 'coming soon' page had the American release date for EW on my Steam up until yesterday. Sometimes I think Steam feeds on my anguish  How does VPN unlocking work with expansions? Do I have to download the entire update through the VPN?
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Tehan posted:The Steam 'coming soon' page had the American release date for EW on my Steam up until yesterday. Sometimes I think Steam feeds on my anguish Really I just hope GMG gives out the keys earlier than the 15th and they're not region-specific. That would give the most choices for working around the system... e: Did some looking around the CDR. There's a Enemy Within North American Pre-Purchase and a Enemy Within for the rest of the world [well except Russia but that's a special case]. I assume the NA batch of keys are tied to the North American Pre-Purchase subscription and are usable from the 12th while the rest of the world has to wait until the 15th. Anyway point is if you're in the UK and have a UK key, it might be possible to trade with someone in the US and activate their key if they're willing to wait to the 15th. This is assuming both keys aren't region-locked which I don't expect to be the case. Why can't companies be clear about these things in advance. gently caress retail and region delays 
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Nov 11, 2013 03:58
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The global steam achievements for this game confuse me. Like, only 80% of the people who own this game have actually played the first mission?
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Nov 11, 2013 04:44
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Speedball posted:The global steam achievements for this game confuse me. Like, only 80% of the people who own this game have actually played the first mission? Global steam achievements exist to show how much money valve makes off of people that buy games en mass and then never play half of them
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Speedball posted:The global steam achievements for this game confuse me. Like, only 80% of the people who own this game have actually played the first mission?
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BenRGamer posted:Or maybe they did and he's waiting til launch day? They didn't, he said as much on his twitter. No early XCOM for him. Kind of silly considering the people there who actively wanted him to have an early copy but the people in video game PR are known for having their heads up their asses at all times.
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zylche posted:e: Did some looking around the CDR. There's a Enemy Within North American Pre-Purchase and a Enemy Within for the rest of the world [well except Russia but that's a special case]. I assume the NA batch of keys are tied to the North American Pre-Purchase subscription and are usable from the 12th while the rest of the world has to wait until the 15th. So if I've already preordered EW on Steam from Australia, there's probably no way to get EW on the 12th short of buying a whole new copy, because I've got the ROW version that'd unlock on the 15th even if I VPN'd to an American IP? Well, poo poo  Edit: I swear Steam's just loving with me now: 
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Nov 11, 2013 05:05
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zylche posted:XCOM: EU was given out as a bonus for Bioshock Infinite. Steam still thinks that I haven't beaten Classic at all so I think the achievement code might be a bit buggy. Yeah, Steam refuses to proc my Classic victory achievement, it is annoying. Maybe when EW hits.
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So I was just notified of Enemy Within and this has me excited, but I wonder if anyone still plays the multiplayer component of this game? Honestly I feel like I enjoy the customization options and the opportunity to shoot at other players instead of the AI/
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:They didn't, he said as much on his twitter. No early XCOM for him. Kind of silly considering the people there who actively wanted him to have an early copy but the people in video game PR are known for having their heads up their asses at all times. Clearly, the game is broken strategically and they're worried that if they give a copy to anyone that isn't strategically braindead before the game ships, everyone will know and cancel the preorders 
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…man, am I just a scrub or is Classic that much of a jump over Normal? I'm trying to be smart about everything but I'm still getting my rear end whipped.
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Speedball posted:…man, am I just a scrub or is Classic that much of a jump over Normal? I'm trying to be smart about everything but I'm still getting my rear end whipped. It is a huge jump over normal.
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Speedball posted:…man, am I just a scrub or is Classic that much of a jump over Normal? I'm trying to be smart about everything but I'm still getting my rear end whipped. Now try impossible. 
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Brainamp posted:Now try impossible. Sectoids having 4HP is seriously loving me over.
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Crazy idea for future cosmetic DLC: something that makes all the aliens look like 1994 X-Com aliens, in modern-res graphics. Mutons look like bodybuilders in green spandex. Floaters are guys with red capes. Chrysalids have big smiley-faces! (Assuming it was just a texture pack, though, you might have to leave Chrysalids as quadrupeds…) Now that's something I might lay five bucks down for...
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I'd drop 5$ for a heavy that sounded like TF2s heavy weapon guy. It's too bad the localization voices is what's getting pushed through and not heavily accented ones.
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Speedball posted:…man, am I just a scrub or is Classic that much of a jump over Normal? I'm trying to be smart about everything but I'm still getting my rear end whipped. Biggest thing that helped me trying to jump to Classic: avoid using Overwatch if your squad has an alien in sight and start using Hunker Down WAY more.
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Yeah, I'd pay money for a "Have lady/dude voices for various accents" DLC.
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I'd pay good money for an Arabic voice pack, what with the Saudis and Egyptians in the game.
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TalonDemonKing posted:I'd drop 5$ for a heavy that sounded like TF2s heavy weapon guy. It's too bad the localization voices is what's getting pushed through and not heavily accented ones.
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Sylphosaurus posted:So, I take it that the Scandinavian countries won't be getting their own voice pack or Firaxis will just use soundclips from the Swedish Chef? I thought you cannot simply use sound clips from other media due to copyrights issue?
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Does EW add more nationalities for soldiers? I doubt it but all they really have to do is add more names and flags to their database.
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Wow they really hosed this voices thing up. JUST PUT IN SOME loving ACCENTS! There would never be a squad where everyone is speaking different languages that is so loving stupid, and if it's just an across the board everyone speaks arabic or chinese now instead of dudeguy-americana that's as terrible as it is now, who thought this was a good idea? It's starting to seem like vanilla x-com will just be the better game overall once the novelty of all the new toys wears off, it's a lot more cohesive and here they're just throwing poo poo at the wall and most of it isn't sticking. Yay you get robot soldiers and fedora enemies and toxic goo that makes you into mutants omg radical!!! It's like a mod made by a loving 13 year old.
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Mr. Unlucky posted:Wow they really hosed this voices thing up. JUST PUT IN SOME loving ACCENTS! There would never be a squad where everyone is speaking different languages that is so loving stupid, and if it's just an across the board everyone speaks arabic or chinese now instead of dudeguy-americana that's as terrible as it is now, who thought this was a good idea? Well it's a flavour thing. They got a lot of flak for everyone speaking American English and this is their attempt to fulfill something people asked for, I'm quite happy with the result of it. When does the game unlock for US folks? Tuesday or Wednesday? I believe I'll try the VPN stuff if I'm not super busy this week.
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Mr. Unlucky posted:Wow they really hosed this voices thing up. JUST PUT IN SOME loving ACCENTS! There would never be a squad where everyone is speaking different languages that is so loving stupid, and if it's just an across the board everyone speaks arabic or chinese now instead of dudeguy-americana that's as terrible as it is now, who thought this was a good idea? Hmm, not blowing things out of proportion at all. Y'know you can... not buy the expansion right? They had the localized voice assets available, why not unlock them for every region?
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Mr. Unlucky posted:Wow they really hosed this voices thing up. JUST PUT IN SOME loving ACCENTS! There would never be a squad where everyone is speaking different languages that is so loving stupid, and if it's just an across the board everyone speaks arabic or chinese now instead of dudeguy-americana that's as terrible as it is now, who thought this was a good idea? I can't blame them, it would involve a huge amount of extra voice work to do line readings in accented English for every nationality in the game (plus male and female for each). This does seem like the best compromise possible without going to those lengths. It doesn't seem that much goofier than vanilla X-Com, honestly. This is a game where space bugs vomit on civilians to turn them into zombies before your jet-pack sniper headshots them from across the map.
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I think a lot of you are missing that it costs them nothing and it is very easy for them to add in their localized voices as extra flavor. If it was any harder to do we probably wouldn't be getting anything at all. So short of some mod support for voice packs, I'm just happy we're getting this. Fake edit: beaten on this while I was writing the tips below... Dumb stuff reviewers keep doing that everyone should stop doing if you are doing it: Aside from the usual "don't ever dash into unknown areas, or move into unknown areas on your last move" there are two things I want to point this out so hopefully nobody else is doing it. 1) Never dash unless you are 100% certain you won't trigger an enemy pack. Tip: you probably aren't. It is almost always going to be better to move once, then move again after you know what the situation is at the end of your first move. Even if you are in combat already, move once, see where you're at and that nothing happened, then move again. It only takes a second or two more, but it will help you out if you stumble into something instead of locking yourself in. The only exceptions to this rule are Run & Gun assaults and when you have to move through an enemy overwatch (since it provides a bonus to defense). Although that is rarely a good idea. 2) Always use everyone's first action, then the 2nd. Too many videos I see them move one guy up, then overwatch, or move another guy up and then shoot, before confirming their other members will even be able to move in for support. It is always better to spend the first action moving your guys into position, then checking who has what shots, then taking their actions or falling back. This way, depending on the out comes you can always use the 2nd action to do something else should some new event alter your initial plan. Other than that just follow the movement plans outlined by beaglerush's vids. You really don't need to do that stuff in normal, and not all of the time in classic. But doing so will make you more successful overall. Three more tips just to reiterate for anyone that doesn't know or remember: 1) You can build more than one satellite at once. Always build them in batches of one though (build quantity of 1, then build quantity of 1, instead of using that qty selector). This way you can always cancel it if you need to get the funds back. 2) You can cancel research projects and start on another one without losing progress on your first one. So feel free to jump around as needed, you don't lose anything. 3) Likewise, as noted above, you can pretty much cancel any project that costs money and resources to get them back. So if you really need cash or alloys/fragments, just cancel something you don't need. But you should be selling everything you find in the early game anyway.
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