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El Gallinero Gros posted:Supposedly Snow legit got mad at Foley for a while because he felt Foley took it too far, but I'm pretty sure they're cool now. The story about this is hysterical in itself. Apparently Snow is in a hardcore match with someone. May have been Blackman. Anyway, he takes a monster chairshot at the end of the match, stands back up and no-sells it. Turns out the chairshot knocked his dick stiff and he remembers nothing after the impact. Regardless he gets into a shitload of heat backstage for no-selling a chairshot to the goddamn skull and after a shitload of ribbing to the boys he asks Mick not to mention it anymore since he already has enough heat on him about it. Mick agrees. A few weeks later Mick is doing a promo on some show or another and congratulates Snow on "getting an ad deal with Lay-Z-Boy, which is odd since he usually doesn't sell chairs." Snow responds to that by ruining an entire commentary segment insulting Mankind on the mic apropos of nothing since they didn't have a storyline feud going on at the time. Vince hates it and now Snow has even MORE heat on him than he did to begin with. They fleshed it out soon after though.
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Nov 11, 2013 06:18
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Al Snow is an idiot.
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Nov 11, 2013 06:33
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Was this before or after the legendary Mankind/Al Snow vs APA match?
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Nov 11, 2013 08:31
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Unless someone else is slipping my mind, Edge and Cena are the only guys to get the "surprise return" slot at the Royal Rumble and win the match. He had a pretty great career overall. I consider him to be like an HHH-tier worker, thought not quite the level of HHH himself. Never "the guy" in WWE but with impressive runs as top heel, and ring work that often gets underrated because he worked a lower-impact style for most of his main event run, and because some critics can't get past the spear. so that's my take on edge thanks for asking
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Nov 11, 2013 08:46
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I think he could've been "the guy" if he didn't get injured a few times when he was at the hottest points in his career. I'm pretty sure he got injured in '07, '08, AND '09, and was out for several months of each (I'm not sure if there was an injury related to Edge's absence that time Taker sent him to Hell for a few months in HIAC, but he was out for a while). Still, dude main evented one of the best Wrestlemanias, so that's a pretty big deal.
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Nov 11, 2013 09:24
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HulkaMatt posted:Why do people talk about the 24 Sai as if Ibushi does it all the time??? I don't talk about the move like he uses a lot, I talk about how it looks incredibly goddamn dangerous. Also, how often he uses the move isn't totally relevant (ex: ganso bomb). That said, I've only seen that one clip of him using it and I'd like to see more footage and see if does the move differently. Q: I was thinking about examples of racism in pro wrestling (characters, gimmicks, backstage stuff, etc.) and I realized that all the stuff I could think up came from the WWE/WWF. What racist poo poo came out of WCW or TNA? Anything similar happen in promotions from non-US countries (Japan, Mexico, Australia, etc.)? Q: Who was the most "over" Asian wrestler in the US? Tajiri seems like the most likely candidate, but my knowledge of wrestling is lacking. Q: Similarly, was there ever an Asian wrestler in WWE or WCW whose entrance music wasn't basically "this wrestler is Asian, so here are some gongs and shamisens"?
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Nov 11, 2013 18:49
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Ultimo Dragon was pretty popular and over in WCW.
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Nov 11, 2013 18:56
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Nick_326 posted:Q: I was thinking about examples of racism in pro wrestling (characters, gimmicks, backstage stuff, etc.) and I realized that all the stuff I could think up came from the WWE/WWF. What racist poo poo came out of WCW or TNA? Anything similar happen in promotions from non-US countries (Japan, Mexico, Australia, etc.)? The original plan for Harlem Heat in WCW was to have them lead to the ring in chains and shackles by Col. Robert Parker. I don't remember if they ever actually went through with it, but they ditched this idea pretty quickly.
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Nov 11, 2013 19:01
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Well, when Russo started booking WCW, we got the match when Liger lost his IWGP Jr Heavyweight title to Juventud after hitting him with a bottle of Tequila, which pissed Liger off to no end and started the end of New Japan's working relationship with WCW. Also, Pinata on a Pole match, La Parka's subtitled gimmick and this guy from the early 90's:  Yoshi Kwan, Asian assassin. Edit: Well, well...I just found this Perigryn fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 19:01
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Nick_326 posted:What racist poo poo came out of WCW or TNA? Russo is also a huge racist and anything he ever did with luchadores or Japanese wrestlers made them into comedy relief. quote:Q: Similarly, was there ever an Asian wrestler in WWE or WCW whose entrance music wasn't basically "this wrestler is Asian, so here are some gongs and shamisens"?
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Nov 11, 2013 19:08
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Nick_326 posted:Q: Who was the most "over" Asian wrestler in the US? Tajiri seems like the most likely candidate, but my knowledge of wrestling is lacking. Jumbo Tsuruta got over as a face in the Amarillo territory, according to Terry Funk's autobiography. Great Muta was pretty well-regarded in the old NWA days and is brought up as a legend in the revisionist WWE history.
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Nov 11, 2013 19:08
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Halloween Jack posted:Taka used his own theme, which does start out with that pinging dulcimer sound but turns into a synth-rock track pretty quick. Also even though the WWF version didn't include this, it starts with the greatest soundbyte in wrestling history. "TAKA IS COMING...MOTHERFUCKER!"
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Nov 11, 2013 19:13
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Inoki did semi-regular shots (usually once or twice a year) for WWWF/WWF, mostly the big MSG shows, from the late-70s through about 1984, and occasional shots in most of the other big territories of the day (often on his way to or from MSG). He was portrayed seriously and usually in around a second or third from the top face role, so he's probably the answer to all of these questions.
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Nov 11, 2013 19:22
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Also even though the WWF version didn't include this, it starts with the greatest soundbyte in wrestling history. I'M GONNA KICK YOU rear end!
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Nov 11, 2013 19:23
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There was also Jimmy Wang Yang who came out to country music, though his entire gimmick was basically "LOL GET IT HE'S ASIAN BUT HE'S A COWBOY". SamuraiFoochs posted:Also even though the WWF version didn't include this, it starts with the greatest soundbyte in wrestling history. I think he should change it to "TAKA SUPERBIGDICK... UWAHAHAHAHA"
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Nov 11, 2013 20:18
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sticklefifer posted:There was also Jimmy Wang Yang who came out to country music, though his entire gimmick was basically "LOL GET IT HE'S ASIAN BUT HE'S A COWBOY".
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Nov 11, 2013 20:20
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I feel like it has to be Muta but I'm probably wrong.Nick_326 posted:That said, I've only seen that one clip of him using it and I'd like to see more footage and see if does the move differently. That's the thing though. He hasn't done it since! HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 20:21
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Also even though the WWF version didn't include this, it starts with the greatest soundbyte in wrestling history. I always preferred the one that just went "gently caress YOU!"
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Nov 11, 2013 20:28
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Nick_326 posted:
Americans are usually portrayed as evildoers in Japan and Mexico of course, unless their gimmick is already over (Hogan, Road Warriors, etc.)
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Nov 11, 2013 20:33
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Al Snow is an idiot. Him being so entrenched in TNA sure didn't help his public image either
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Nov 11, 2013 20:38
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Bigass Moth posted:Americans are usually portrayed as evildoers in Japan and Mexico of course, unless their gimmick is already over (Hogan, Road Warriors, etc.) Not really of late - plenty of gaijin are getting initial pushes as faces. Devitt was a face for a long rear end time, only having recently turned heel. Kenny Omega is a wacky, fun face. Strongman is a well-liked strong man. MVP was a face, I think, though he did have somewhat of a name before entering New Japan. Shelly has been a face in New Japan. In Mexico, though, it seems like most outside dudes are brought in as heels.
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Nov 11, 2013 20:41
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Muta was crazy over right around his TV title run in NWA.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:13
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Not really of late - plenty of gaijin are getting initial pushes as faces. Devitt was a face for a long rear end time, only having recently turned heel. Kenny Omega is a wacky, fun face. Strongman is a well-liked strong man. MVP was a face, I think, though he did have somewhat of a name before entering New Japan. Shelly has been a face in New Japan. And even if they're not brought in as heels in Mexico, Arena Mexico tends to boo faces if they're facing Mexican wrestlers. Devitt got booed when he wrestled there sometimes.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:19
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If you're counting Asian Americans, that adds Ricky Steamboat, Batista, and the various Samoan wrestlers into the mix.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:06
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Aerial Tollhouse posted:If you're counting Asian Americans, that adds Ricky Steamboat, Batista, and the various Samoan wrestlers into the mix. Even Ricky had the karate gimmick shoehorned onto him.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:08
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Nick_326 posted:Q: Similarly, was there ever an Asian wrestler in WWE or WCW whose entrance music wasn't basically "this wrestler is Asian, so here are some gongs and shamisens"? It's easy to forget it cause you never hear it but Yoshi Tatsu
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Nov 11, 2013 23:49
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Not really of late - plenty of gaijin are getting initial pushes as faces. Devitt was a face for a long rear end time, only having recently turned heel. To be fair Devitt's inital push was as a heel in the stable CTU, up until he got over with the fans enough to have a long face run. They did a flashback to this in the match with Liger at BOSJ's this year where Devitt kept on telling formed CTU leader Liger "you taught me this."
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Nov 11, 2013 23:55
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sticklefifer posted:There was also Jimmy Wang Yang who came out to country music, though his entire gimmick was basically "LOL GET IT HE'S ASIAN BUT HE'S A COWBOY". A Jimmy Wang Yang/Lord Tensai tag team. Too beautiful for this world.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:56
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Nick_326 posted:Q: I was thinking about examples of racism in pro wrestling (characters, gimmicks, backstage stuff, etc.) and I realized that all the stuff I could think up came from the WWE/WWF. What racist poo poo came out of WCW or TNA? Anything similar happen in promotions from non-US countries (Japan, Mexico, Australia, etc.)? In his interview with Colt Cabana on The Art Of Wrestling, Masada brings up an incident in Japan. http://tsmradio.com/coltcabana/2013/09/18/aow-165-masada/ Story starts at 36 minutes in. Z-Magic fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 00:55
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Rarity posted:It's easy to forget it cause you never hear it but Yoshi Tatsu Isn't his theme just some attempt at J-Pop? White guys get buttrock, black guys get hip-hop, and here comes Yoshi Tatsu with his silly annie-may techno twingtwongs. I've always thought of it as the same ol' 'japans like this music right' but just the 2010s version. Less blatant, still lame.
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Nov 12, 2013 01:44
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It sounded more like the Megaman level music that time forgot.
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Nov 12, 2013 01:47
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Clearly it's a very classy attempt by William Regal to pay tribute to Yellow Magic Orchestra. Edit: HAHAHA holy poo poo I just listened to it and I had actually forgotten; the first time I heard it I thought they had probably ripped the melody off of "Behind the Mask." Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 01:54
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I vaguely remember somebody posting a clip from a Nintendo music game and sure enough, there was Yoshi's theme.
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Nov 12, 2013 04:41
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LividLiquid posted:I vaguely remember somebody posting a clip from a Nintendo music game and sure enough, there was Yoshi's theme. Yup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ximph4gbLUw&t=37s
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Nov 12, 2013 05:00
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I'm guessing it's stock music, something WWE has used plenty of times in the past. See: Lita, the Hardys, and Hardcore Holly
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Nov 12, 2013 05:37
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Twisted Eye posted:Isn't his theme just some attempt at J-Pop? White guys get buttrock, black guys get hip-hop, and here comes Yoshi Tatsu with his silly annie-may techno twingtwongs. I've always thought of it as the same ol' 'japans like this music right' but just the 2010s version. Less blatant, still lame.
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Nov 12, 2013 07:27
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Nut Bunnies posted:I'm guessing it's stock music, something WWE has used plenty of times in the past. See: Lita, the Hardys, and Hardcore Holly It is. It's been on Man vs. Food. As have at least two of the generic entrance themes from the WWE games.
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Nov 12, 2013 08:50
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Stock music doesn't necessarily mean it's bad entrance music. Booker T's theme and the NWO theme are stock music too. (I know there's a rumor saying Hall and Nash originally heard the NWO theme in a porn flick) getitoffgetitoff fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 09:13
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Stock music doesn't necessarily mean it's bad entrance music. Booker T's theme and the NWO theme are stock music too.
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