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how? I've been through the stone where you hire pawns. is there a door in that building i've missed?
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Krinkle posted:I was being facetious because my character committed suicide Kill the old dude, jump in the giant gaping hole in what used to be the center of town, continue on with the rest of the game. Also, you can just walk behind the guy who is blocking the pawn guild, and if you don't feel up to jumping in the hole, leaving town should work too. Jumping in the pit is the next big quest though.
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Nov 11, 2013 21:56
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I didn't know I could leave town. I never went to BBI. Am I locked into this underdark campaign now? E: no looks like I can ferrystone out.
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Nov 11, 2013 21:57
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Krinkle posted:I didn't know I could leave town. I never went to BBI. Am I locked into this underdark campaign now? You can also get out by landing on the topmost floor. You'll recognize it by the big dish-shaped thing on an outcropping, and after landing you can walk up and into the pawn guild.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:01
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BlueDestiny posted:You can also get out by landing on the topmost floor. You'll recognize it by the big dish-shaped thing on an outcropping, and after landing you can walk up and into the pawn guild. So there are different things that happen depending on where I land? I landed in a beholder fight and that fucker did not take damage from anything and blinded silenced cursed everyone to death. e: also that fight with the old man really bothers me. Why did it take 30 hits to knock him out a window where he could still stand up, gesture at me like an outraged italian grandmother and tell a monologue about how I'm the worst and responsible for everything. Literally all a guard needs to see is me standing over his dead body and it would have been the same as far as being on the run/not allowed in the cool quarter anymore. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 22:04
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The beholder is a scripted event. You always wind up at his chamber regardless of where you land (except the exit, which still works) until you kill him. He becomes vulnerable to direct attack once you've killed enough of the tentacles that come up out of the ground in his chamber. Once you've completed the Chamber of Confusion, each of the 16 floors of the Everfall have unique content.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:08
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Krinkle posted:So there are different things that happen depending on where I land? I landed in a beholder fight and that fucker did not take damage from anything and blinded silenced cursed everyone to death. You need to kill the Beholder before you can enter other chambers. All of the doors lead to the Beholder at first.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:08
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Krinkle posted:So there are different things that happen depending on where I land? I landed in a beholder fight and that fucker did not take damage from anything and blinded silenced cursed everyone to death. The first time you go into the Everfall you'll be forced to fight the beholder no matter where you go. Once you kill it, each ledge will take you to a sort of gauntlet room with some hard enemies or a new type of boss. A common theme in the Evefall is DEBUFFS FOR ONE AND ALL so load up on stuff like panacea, sobering wine, light-cure/interventive and secret softeners. The beholder is beatable with purely physical damage, but you'll have to wait for it to make itself vulnerable for certain attacks. The only other way to drop the shield is with a fuckton of magic damage.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:12
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Is there any penalty to letting guest pawns die? I did it the first time on accident, thinking their body would respawn when I left the area. The second time they fell of a cliff and I couldnt find a way down without suiciding. Also, I feel like I'm playing this game wrong at times, but that it's a giant rear end in a top hat at others. I tried for like 3 hours to do this escort quest. Had no problems for most of the long journey, even managed to take out a castle full of bandits. Then I spend the next hour trying to kill a chimera while being shat on by harpies. It didn't help that my 4th pawn had been launched off a cliff leaving me with a weaker party. After dying against the final form because it one-shot me when it had less than half health, I turn around and decide this merchant can find his own drat way. Then I proceed to spend the NEXT hour fighting a group of bandits that I had no trouble getting through on my way in, but keep destroying me now. Is it normal to get one-shotted so often? Do enemies scale constantly? Do I need to run away more? Grind rabbits? How much do I suck? BlindNinja fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 22:14
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If a guest pawn dies, you just have to rehire them at a stone. And as far as the difficulty, as far as I can tell, there's no enemy scaling which leads to areas where it suddenly jumps in difficulty. I'm not done with the game yet, but I had the same problems you're talking about when I was starting out; just stick with it, the game gets really good once you gain enough levels to start kicking rear end.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:21
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Why do some pawns cost 0 and others cost two million? I assume they cost RC?
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Nov 11, 2013 22:29
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Escort quests should only be done if: 1. You have a port crystal ready at the destination. 2. You want to see how fast an NPC can die because a Griffin decided to have fun.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:35
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Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely having fun, but I was on the verge of making a hole in my wall last night. No more fetch quests for me, for now.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:38
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Krinkle posted:Why do some pawns cost 0 and others cost two million? I assume they cost RC? The cost is dependant on your level. Pawns at a higher level than you cost more. Pawns at a lower level cost less or nothing. The one's that cost millions are most likely at max level. And in my experience, they show up because they were my friend's pawns. You'll want to use the filter to get pawns closer to your level. I usually paid to hire pawns 5 or so levels above me so they'd be useful for longer.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:38
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A friend's pawn is free to rent unless something changed recently.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:46
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Friends' pawns are indeed free to hire regardless of the level disparity. I just got this game from being a PS+ subscriber. I've done some rudimentary research on how stuff works and I think I want to do my first run through the game blind. Is it a bad idea to level up each vocation to max rank before deciding which one I want to play for my stat gains? What sort of difference does it make if I min/max my stats as opposed to a jack-of-all-trades sort of build? Eriic fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 22:52
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BlindNinja posted:Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely having fun, but I was on the verge of making a hole in my wall last night. No more fetch quests for me, for now. It can be more satisfying to just pick a direction and see what you can find than pursuing some "get x bear asses" quest. In other news, I started my BBI only character from a clean slate. Did the encampment part as a fighter and then went straight to BBI without 200 dollars or any of the other stuff you can find, probably should have bought some rusted gear first. First 30 minutes consisted of running around looting chests and hoping to not get one shot by goblins. Switched from fighter to assassin around lvl 12, pawn is strider for ranged damage and climbing prowess. Looks like the stamina penalty from higher level weapons can be pretty steep, 2-5 level difference isn't too bad but trying to use a Dragon's Ire around level 21 is almost impossible. I didn't know that the penalty gets applied to running and using your other weapon too. I've avoided hiring any pawns so far and the lack of a weapon enchant, heals and debuff cleanses has really forced me to learn to utilize healing and spell items constantly. Current roadblock is the Gazer, at level 21 I don't have enough str or mag to dent its tentacles. I'll have to see if a running double jump would be enough to grab its face in case the eye is weaker than the rest of its body.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:55
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Krinkle posted:Why do some pawns cost 0 and others cost two million? I assume they cost RC? Pawns who are higher level than you cost RC to hire. The exception to this is if they belong to people on your friends list, in which case they're free no matter what level they are. Hiring pawns way higher than you will murder your experience gains, though.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:55
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mirarant posted:Escort quests should only be done if: this literally just happened while i was taking madeleine to bloodwater beach  I haven't even found a port crystal yet, just some ferrystones. Travel is a little bit frustrating sometimes, but it's pretty cool that long trips are actually grueling journeys that you have to plan for instead of being a few clicks to travel across the world or whatever.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:56
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Cloche posted:this literally just happened while i was taking madeleine to bloodwater beach There's a portcrystal at the bottom of the Everfall, at least until postgame. Most people miss it because they trigger the tentacles and have to run, but if you go back down there it'll be waiting for you.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:15
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mirarant posted:Current roadblock is the Gazer, at level 21 I don't have enough str or mag to dent its tentacles. I'll have to see if a running double jump would be enough to grab its face in case the eye is weaker than the rest of its body. Protip: use throwblasts. It takes ~20 to kill the Gazer once you've exposed his eye. And it just so happens you can get 20 for free from the first refuge place with Barroch. They even respawn, after a couple of days. e: Also make sure to use a Martyr's Talisman (Barroch sells 1 every couple of days) before killing it to get more EXP. Genocyber fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Nov 11, 2013 23:33
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Man, Sorceror is so goddamn hit or miss.  Either you can do a ton of damage to an enemy or you are completely useless. The second stage of the final boss in BBI is really irritating as well, it just kills my pawns instantly now and takes like no damage. Woo, boss design.  Is Exequy the light spell? It doesn't actually tell you and I stopped using it pretty quickly because it's generally useless nut maybe hitting the weakness will make it less of a slog. I'll probably go back in with that and the silence spell since that's what's killing my pawns mostly.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:48
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Dragon forge a rusted weapon or maybe just 3 star it to get it to inflict topor and it makes him more manageable.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:54
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I'm level 38 as an assassin and right now I'm experimenting with getting some of the strength augmenting augmentations, but I think I would also like to play a bit as a magic archer, since they seem like fun. I wonder if I would have to play some dozen levels as a magician character for the MA to really be good or is this game more forgiving in that aspect? And "holy poo poo this game" moment of the day: First time killing the dragon from devilsomething forest. The battle lasted for a whole day and night cycle and at night, pretty much all that I could see were the dragon's heart, the pawns lighting and fire attacks and my little circle of light from the lantern. Somehow, all that made the atmosphere of the whole thing look so loving amazing. If there is a Dragons Dogma 2, I'm there day one.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Man, Sorceror is so goddamn hit or miss. The best way to kill the final boss in BBI with a Sorcerer is to do the following: 1. Load up on Demon's Periapts. Fournival sells them in Gran Soren. 2. Use four of them at a time, since they stack. 3. Cast Holy Affinity on yourself. 4. Shoot him in the head with focused bolts. On his second form, shoot him in the chest-face. It's boring, but incredibly effective. It's how I killed him on Hard Mode a whole bunch of times now: just focused bolts with holy enchantments and a whole lot of Demon's Periapts. Seriously, you'll be taking off half of a health bar or more per shot, depending on where you hit, and you can knock him out of his pawn-killer move, too. Harrow fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 00:26
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I've got a few of those lying around and my mage pawn gives holy enchantments. I'll try that, thanks.
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Nov 12, 2013 00:41
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Harrow posted:The best way to kill the final boss in BBI with a Sorcerer is to do the following: Incidentally, this is also how you take out offline Ur Dragon in 3 or 4 minutes.
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I get back there and now my mage pawn has suddenly decided that climbing the boss is a better use of her time than enchanting or healing. 
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Nov 12, 2013 01:24
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You can pick up the skill, yourself, as a Sorcerer. It wouldn't hurt to just equip it for yourself so you make sure you get the buff when you want it.
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Nov 12, 2013 02:10
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Manatee Cannon posted:I get back there and now my mage pawn has suddenly decided that climbing the boss is a better use of her time than enchanting or healing. Yeah, learn Holy Affinity yourself. Sorcerers can cast it, too. Click on the left stick to target yourself with it while you're casting.
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Nov 12, 2013 02:22
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It finally happened, I got a ring that grants Explosive Volley and Ninefold Bolt. Now my Magic Archer has ascended to even further ridiculously high levels of power.
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Nov 12, 2013 02:47
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Harrow posted:There's a portcrystal at the bottom of the Everfall, at least until postgame. Most people miss it because they trigger the tentacles and have to run, but if you go back down there it'll be waiting for you.
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Harrow posted:Yeah, learn Holy Affinity yourself. Sorcerers can cast it, too. Click on the left stick to target yourself with it while you're casting. I already had everything the Sorcerer or Mage could learn when I stopped playing the original release like a year ago, I just made the mistake of trusting the pawn to do it for me. Oh well, chugged like 12 demon's periapts and took ~3 bars of life out per charge shot. Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 03:00
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So I've heard some pretty bad things about the quality of the sidequests and how doing out of your way to do them is not a great idea. Should someone just try and stick to the main quest line and only do a sidequest if it sounds fun or is nearby?
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I love DA but holy poo poo sometimes it goes into "No, gently caress YOU" mode, like every time I swap to Mystic Knight. I go into the room with two chained cyclopes, and death is right there. I go back out and an elder ogre spawns. I go back to the other room and death is gone but now 3 garms spawn, backing up the lich that's chaincasting bolide. And the one time the stars align and my pawns take out the lich without getting something horrible to spawn in, the insane sorcerers downstairs doublecast high maelstrom and kill everyone instantly, tanking 1400 strength damage without flinching. BBI is really goddamn frustrating when you're not already massively overgeared. I might have to switch my immortal-healer mage back to something that does damage because it's getting kind of absurd now.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:So I've heard some pretty bad things about the quality of the sidequests and how doing out of your way to do them is not a great idea. Should someone just try and stick to the main quest line and only do a sidequest if it sounds fun or is nearby? Try to do the sidequests that aren't 'Escort X to Y' and 'Collect 10 X's'. Most of them are pretty decent, and some give great rewards. Plus if you accept the collect/kill quests you'll usually fulfill them just playing the game normally. Don't bother going out of your way grinding out 30 goblin kills right away though.
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Just killed my first Cursed Dragon. I now appreciate the love for Explosive Rivets. 
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Shoot three sets into the heart, tap them once, watch the dragon topple.
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BlueDestiny posted:I love DA but holy poo poo sometimes it goes into "No, gently caress YOU" mode, like every time I swap to Mystic Knight. I'm level 181 and my strategy for the last stratum of BBI is still "run past everything and tag the door as fast as you loving can." Well, unless I'm playing Magick Archer at the moment, in which case my strategy changes to "Ricochet Hunter ad infinitum."
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e: I can't even loving believe it never mind. It respawns enemies every single time you enter so every time I turned around there were goblins to distract me at the fork in the road and then that was it. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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