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Gazaar posted:The Governor needs to be transplanted to a western or something with the outfit he's wearing. The show is already sort of a pseudo-western to me anyway, Rick and Carl wearing their guns so loving low really helps that feel. Carl's case might just be adult gear on a kid or he could be wearing it low because his dad does. It manages to be one of my favorite things regardless. Or to reveal he's a huge fan of Escape from New York and figures if it's the wasteland, he can dress like Snake Plissken if he wants to.
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The girl has some problems but I don't think she's crazy. She's just messed up about death and life and all the hosed up poo poo she's living through. That's not surprising. In this world there should be an entire generation (small though it may be) of kids growing up broken because they only know hell and their parents don't really know what to do with it. Their parents are struggling to hold on to the old world but with each passing day kids lose sight of what little they knew of that world and this world just takes up more of what they know. Which is really the story on Carl. I don't think he's the most capable fighter and I don't think he's a psycho. He's a kid who has only known this for a good chunk of his life. He's been able to discard the old world faster than his father because he knew so much less of it. Rick is desperately trying to protect him from all of this but doesn't realize (until this episode) that this is Carl's world. School and recess and tv and video games and "brush your teeth before bed" and church and baseball and that stuff are just dwindling memories to him that weren't around long enough for them to beat out zombies, death, gun training, and crisis management. All in all this crew is just getting hardened and hardened. They've been losing people but after every crisis the survivors come out of it tougher. Herschel, Carl, Maggie, Glenn. There's a reason half a dozen of them were able to handle the Governor and his army of 30 or so people. They're smarter, more capable, and more battle tested. Even that little girl is growing. I bet she doesn't think so kindly of zombies now as she did back when she may have been feeding them or was saying they were just like us. She may not be fixed but she was tested and came out the other side a different person. The Governor sucks because he's a lovely character without any of the nuance or development that the show is doing so well right now but whatever. That was an amazing episode and 3 seconds doesn't change that. And the Governor isn't beyond character rehabilitation, so fingers crossed. But Carol hooking up with the Gov? In earnest? Can't we go back to kid serial killer theories?
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Bored posted:I actually don't think so. For this world, she's pretty normal. It'd be like if a little kid is dazing out, drawing pictures in the sand with her foot. But in this world, there's blood everywhere. I think it was another metaphor shot, like Rick's gun and peapod camera angle. Even though the show has redeemed itself, it's not going to distance itself from cliches: the little girl who acts unhinged is a little crazy and is probably going to be dangerous sometime soon. We can make assumptions about what being raised in a zombie apocalypse does to a little kid's mind, but the writers/director have made it a point call attention to the "this little girl ain't right" warning signs, so sorry to say this is where her plot thread is likely going.
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Svanja posted:And I am just pissed I have to wait another week for the Daryl-Rick interaction.
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I really hope Scott Gimple has some good idea of how to use the Governor, because otherwise I'm afraid that his reappearance is going to derail what has been arguably the best season thus far.
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boom boom boom posted:What the gently caress is up with people's inability to stop spoiling Attack on Titan? Jesus this is months old. Galactica finds Earth.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I really hope Scott Gimple has some good idea of how to use the Governor, because otherwise I'm afraid that his reappearance is going to derail what has been arguably the best season thus far. Trust in Scott.
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MeLKoR posted:Jesus this is months old. Galactica finds Earth. It's months old in a thread for a completely different TV show poo poo for brains, if this was an Attack on Titan thread you might have a point, but it's not reasonable to assume that everybody has watched every single piece of media concurrently with you. So shut the gently caress up about it instead of just randomly decided to spoil something with a pointlessly off topic analogy.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Or to reveal he's a huge fan of Escape from New York and figures if it's the wasteland, he can dress like Snake Plissken if he wants to. Eh Rick has what I think is the 8 inch barrel variant of the python, it's kind of hard to wear on the hip and get it out as easy. FlamingLiberal posted:I really hope Scott Gimple has some good idea of how to use the Governor, because otherwise I'm afraid that his reappearance is going to derail what has been arguably the best season thus far. I tend to agree, the end of the illness arc was well timed, a little too neat perhaps, but it kind of seems like they're just going to tack the governor story line on for the last few episodes. Hopefully it's done well, but I'm not holding my breath. I just hope there's not another 5 episodes spent talking about dealing with him so they can make a plan to maybe go off and perhaps do something at some point in the future, maybe - only after soul searching and scowling and tough talk from Michonne.
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I think this last episode has been the weakest this season. We really didn't need to see that many clips of people coughing and sniffling. It's like 90% of the episode was 'when you think it couldn't get any worse, it does!' and then a disappointing climax. So, it's no big deal if a loving zombie army breaks through both fences? 1 & 1/2 people with assault rifles can neatly take them all out and not attract any more? What the poo poo? Whole new set of zombie rules or what? One big hot mess, the whole episode.
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Calico Noose posted:It's months old in a thread for a completely different TV show poo poo for brains, if this was an Attack on Titan thread you might have a point, but it's not reasonable to assume that everybody has watched every single piece of media concurrently with you. So shut the gently caress up about it instead of just randomly decided to spoil something with a pointlessly off topic analogy. Chill. Out.
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boom boom boom posted:The walls were breached and they survived. That's why they showed relief on their faces. This thing everyone was dreading happened, and it wasn't the end of everything. Most of the episode was doom and gloom, people dropping left and right, but we didn't really lose anyone except that Dr. we never knew. Then the worst happened, the fence collapsed! Oh gently caress! But nothing came of it, they easily gunned them down. It's like the episode was these weird buildups where nothing actually happened. All the quarantining bullshit I sat through, and people ended up going in anyways, and it was fine. Carl stay away from me! Ah gently caress, I need ya actually, come here and give papa a hug. I dunno. Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but it seems like there just not a good cause and effect thing happening. Even the time window was weird -- why did Daryl not ask about Carol until morning, when things were casual enough for Rick to do a little farming?
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Calico Noose posted:It's months old in a thread for a completely different TV show poo poo for brains, if this was an Attack on Titan thread you might have a point, but it's not reasonable to assume that everybody has watched every single piece of media concurrently with you. So shut the gently caress up about it instead of just randomly decided to spoil something with a pointlessly off topic analogy. My animes 
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Blazing Ownager posted:I think why people aren't being more hostile about this is the fact the episode was really good regardless but SERIOUSLY what are they thinking? People probably aren't being hostile because it was addressed in the show itself. Dying doctor goes "Lock all the doors and be ready to shotgun some people", Hershel goes "I don't think it's quite time for that yet", Doctor goes "No seriously LOCK ALL THE loving DOORS RIGHT NOW". Hershel was trying to walk a very hard line between keeping hope up and not letting people focus on how brutal their situation was on the one hand, and on the other taking the very pragmatic steps required to stay alive. And overall he did the best possible. Only a handful of people may have gotten out of that quarantine alive, but if he hadn't done what he did it probably would have been zero. It's hard to get worked up about a 'stupid' thing being done when it's called out by the characters in the episode itself, and you also get the motivation behind doing it handed to you too.
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I liked the struggle Hershel had with trying to help people and being forced to acknowledge that he wasn't going to save everyone, as the other doctor told him. Like Rick, until the last minute he was doing his best to preserve a sense of civility in the worst possible situation, with taking the trouble of moving the dead bodies into the other room before stabbing them in the head. He could barely even bring himself to do it, as Glenn mentioned to him. Rick also did everything he could to shield Carl from the reality of their situation, until no other options were left. I think that's been one of the show's strengths to date- the characters struggling to preserve society after it has completely collapsed, even to the point of absurdity (like with the moving of the bodies). This season they've actually spent the time developing characters and their relationships, whereas in the previous seasons that fell to the wayside for someone in danger, usually. The second season had too much of that.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I really hope Scott Gimple has some good idea of how to use the Governor, because otherwise I'm afraid that his reappearance is going to derail what has been arguably the best season thus far. I have high hopes for it. As an individual, the Gov can't present the same threat as before without getting creative. His power in season 3 came from control over an army willing to fight and die for him. I read an interview with the actor talking about the end of the episode saying the Gov was looking on the prison as safety, and the people inside as inconveniences to him. Anything that would destroy the safety of the prison wouldn't be a viable option. As easily as he could plow a truck into the fence and knock it over it then makes the prison unusable to him.
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Was there any follow up on that radio station Daryl heard in the car, or was he not interest because they didn't play his favourite 2 kinds of music country, and western?
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Crankit posted:Was there any follow up on that radio station Daryl heard in the car, or was he not interest because they didn't play his favourite 2 kinds of music country, and western?
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Crankit posted:Was there any follow up on that radio station Daryl heard in the car, or was he not interest because they didn't play his favourite 2 kinds of music country, and western? No follow up on the show. One of the producers was on TD that night and said readers of the comic might have an idea of where it could be coming from
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quote:Most of the episode was doom and gloom, people dropping left and right, but we didn't really lose anyone except that Dr. we never knew. Then the worst happened, the fence collapsed! Oh gently caress! But nothing came of it, they easily gunned them down. It's like the episode was these weird buildups where nothing actually happened. All the quarantining bullshit I sat through, and people ended up going in anyways, and it was fine. Carl stay away from me! Ah gently caress, I need ya actually, come here and give papa a hug. We learned the doctor's first name a few minutes before he died. That's honestly more than I expected. Are we down to just Tyreese, Sasha, Lizzie and small unnamed boy as the sole survivors of Woodbury now? No other characters helped with either crisis at the prison, so I guess everyone else is dead? I know they kept the number of people they took in from Woodbury kind of vague (everyone who wasn't a combatant?), but by this point I'm pretty sure Rick's group has been in charge for substantially more Woodburian deaths than the Governor was. Considering that the Governor deliberately murdered a bunch of his own people, that's really impressive. Bedurndurn fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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The fact that people can think that episode sucked because no named characters died boggles my mind. When Maggie took the shot on intubator zombie I was like "whaaaaaat". She did it to save Herschel but at risk to Glen's survival in regards to possibly destroying the intubator. Rick realising he can't protect Carl anymore and putting him in danger of infection and being bitten in order to prevent the prison from being overrun is another big change. This episode was full of them despite being the events of a single day
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MariusLecter posted:My animes My anything, I don't care about Attack on Titan, it's just a common courtesy in a forum that's full of threads about various media and hosts quite a few rewatch threads at any given time. I'm not going to start posting random pointless analogies to poo poo that happens in The Wire just because i've seen it, and it irks me when people go around spoiling things in completely unrelated threads and then act like it's the other persons fault that they're inconsiderate. But this is completely off topic. quote:Most of the episode was doom and gloom, people dropping left and right, but we didn't really lose anyone except that Dr. we never knew. Then the worst happened, the fence collapsed! Oh gently caress! But nothing came of it, they easily gunned them down. It's like the episode was these weird buildups where nothing actually happened. All the quarantining bullshit I sat through, and people ended up going in anyways, and it was fine. Carl stay away from me! Ah gently caress, I need ya actually, come here and give papa a hug. I wouldn't say thats really true. Not a lot came of the fence break-through in terms of 'oh noes zombies!' but the scene & Ricks distancing himself from Carl in general has been more about his emotional state than anything else. Rick has been trying to preserve Carl's innocence and kept him isolated from things that are going to threaten or corrupt him, include Rick himself. With the fence scene we had Rick finally coming to terms with the fact that this is the world that Carl has grown up in, he's not the child that needs to be sheltered anymore, and things are better for Rick having realised this fact.
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Calico Noose posted:I wouldn't say thats really true. Not a lot came of the fence break-through in terms of 'oh noes zombies!' but the scene & Ricks distancing himself from Carl in general has been more about his emotional state than anything else. Rick has been trying to preserve Carl's innocence and kept him isolated from things that are going to threaten or corrupt him, include Rick himself. We're 50+ episodes into this and our characters are more than 2 years into the loving apocalypse. If, as you feel, Rick has just finally come to terms with the idea that Carl must shoot zombies to live, then Rick will probably drown if he looks up while it's raining. Bedurndurn fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Bedurndurn posted:We're 50+ episodes into this and our characters are more than 2 years into the loving apocalypse. If, as you feel, Rick has just finally come to terms with the idea that Carl must shoot zombies to live, then Rick will probably drown if he looks up while its raining. It is not just killing zombies, its the fact that they have to become cold. That he can not be a kid and he has to only care about himself.
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Bedurndurn posted:We're 50+ episodes into this and our characters are more than 2 years into the loving apocalypse. If, as you feel, Rick has just finally come to terms with the idea that Carl must shoot zombies to live, then Rick will probably drown if he looks up while it's raining. Holding on to Carl as his "kid" is one of the only things Rick has left (besides the baby) and having to acknowledge that Carl is capable of being treated like Glenn in terms of usefulness is something Rick has been desperately trying to stave off.
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Navy Seal Carl and a shotgunning grandpa was fun to see.
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pentyne posted:Holding on to Carl as his "kid" is one of the only things Rick has left (besides the baby) and having to acknowledge that Carl is capable of being treated like Glenn in terms of usefulness is something Rick has been desperately trying to stave off. But the flipside is that is a tension the show has been exploring for a long time now, and has oscillated on how it has tried to resolve it. I just hope that the show can come to a conclusion and let the characters grow in some direction other than a protect-carl story. Both carl trying to fit in with kids after what he's been through (and they haven't) or a father-son post apocalyptic relationship (leave it beaver meets fallout) would both be more entertaining then watching the cycle repeat itself for the umpteenth time.
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xxEightxx posted:But the flipside is that is a tension the show has been exploring for a long time now, and has oscillated on how it has tried to resolve it. I just hope that the show can come to a conclusion and let the characters grow in some direction other than a protect-carl story. Both carl trying to fit in with kids after what he's been through (and they haven't) or a father-son post apocalyptic relationship (leave it beaver meets fallout) would both be more entertaining then watching the cycle repeat itself for the umpteenth time. Hasn't Carl already established he doesn't want anything to do with being a 'kid' and sees himself (rightly) as capable as Maggie, Glenn or most of the other adults?
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BlindSite posted:Eh Rick has what I think is the 8 inch barrel variant of the python, it's kind of hard to wear on the hip and get it out as easy. 6", surprised he's not lost the thing with all the flopping his holster does. 
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Calico Noose posted:My anything, I don't care about Attack on Titan, it's just a common courtesy in a forum that's full of threads about various media and hosts quite a few rewatch threads at any given time. I'm not going to start posting random pointless analogies to poo poo that happens in The Wire just because i've seen it, and it irks me when people go around spoiling things in completely unrelated threads and then act like it's the other persons fault that they're inconsiderate. But this is completely off topic. Does this mean no one can mention anything ever outside the show a thread is about? Because otherwise it's going to be a bit hard preventing something like this from happening. If months aren't enough then what, years? Will I spoil Babylon 5 for you if I say the Shadows lose? If not this boils down to my joke/analogy not being enough on point for your taste. My apologies. You still need to drink less coffee. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Capn Beeb posted:6", surprised he's not lost the thing with all the flopping his holster does. He probably keeps it secure with the little button snap that most holsters a cop would have.
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MeLKoR posted:Does this mean no one can mention anything ever outside the show a thread is about? Because otherwise it's going to be a bit hard preventing something like this from happening. If months aren't enough then what, years? Will I spoil Babylon 5 for you if I say the Shadows lose? Specific plot points from other TV shows have no place in the thread about The Walking Dead, this is where plot points about The Walking Dead go and nobody will be annoyed with you for bringing them up. What is hard about this concept? If you can't think of anything to say about a scene beyond "This reminds me of Spoiled Scene/plot point from another show" then you have nothing interesting to add, so just read along.
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As little as I give a poo poo about animes (I had no idea what AoT was and have no intention of ever watching it) it was kind of a dick move to respond to "don't post spoilers" with "herp derp, here's another spoiler" as some kind of petty retaliation not once but twice, for 2 different shows (no, I haven't seen Babylon 5 either, thanks for asking).Bedurndurn posted:We learned the doctor's first name a few minutes before he died. That's honestly more than I expected.
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Baldbeard posted:I think this last episode has been the weakest this season. We really didn't need to see that many clips of people coughing and sniffling. It's like 90% of the episode was 'when you think it couldn't get any worse, it does!' and then a disappointing climax. Agreed. I'm astonished it's getting so much praise in this thread. I just thought the lack of restraints on people who were clearly dying(possibly the dumbest moment so far), and the end result being a bunch of dead red shirts while Glen is saved by ~*~medicine~*~ was a bit of a cop out. I've enjoyed this season so far though. And I wasn't angry when the Gov showed up but I do hope he's a little less ridiculous this time around.
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MeLKoR posted:Jesus this is months old. Galactica finds Earth. The Annie stuff is a huge reveal and was only about a week old if you're following the books. Like I am. Thanks, spoiling dicks.
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Calico Noose posted:Specific plot points from other TV shows have no place in the thread about The Walking Dead, this is where plot points about The Walking Dead go and nobody will be annoyed with you for bringing them up. What is hard about this concept? If you can't think of anything to say about a scene beyond "This reminds me of Spoiled Scene/plot point from another show" then you have nothing interesting to add, so just read along. Well, don't you think it would be interesting to discuss similarities between other works and TWD? Like, say, if there was a scene referencing a scene from another show, I'd actually find it interesting if someone pointed that and maybe shared a few thoughts about it. That said, the initial spoiler that sparked this debacle was a really low content post that made a completetely tangential and uninteresting observation, so yeah I do see where you're coming from with this. That Galactica one is a complete non-spoiler, though (and I hate it when people get their panties in a bunch about these: oh hey, you gained some completetely contextless information about a book/movie/show you've never watched and is years old, how terrible for you!)
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pentyne posted:Has anyone identified that song that plays while Herschel stabs the corpse he covered with the sheet? Somebody already answered it but Ben Howard has been getting a lot of episodes of major TV shows with his songs because he's awesome. House MD had one of their last episodes playing one of his songs for like 10 minutes. Can't go wrong with getting 'Every Kingdom' and 'Burgh Island' albums/EP. And hey if you like really lovely songs he can cover those too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPU8V-nvUEk
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