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Vib Rib posted:
And then you get to super hard mode and it turns into 1.2. gently caress Red Cloud.
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Nov 11, 2013 19:44
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I'm going to go against the general sentiment and say there are enough easily accessible powerful options that the super rare drops are more like a nice bonus if you happen to luck into them and totally unnecessary to play the core game. Mushroom Spear is a great melee weapon and easily obtained, Megashark for ranged, and Golden Shower for magic. If you needed the dungeon chest uber weapons to progress then yeah it would be bullshit, but you don't at all.
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Nov 11, 2013 19:52
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Additionally, most of the cool items pre-hardmode come from chests, which you can't really do in hardmode. I suppose Mimics serve the purpose chests did pre-hardmode, maybe Redigit could do more with them. The rare drops on the key moulds really should be changed to something else, I do agree with that. The other rare drops are okay, I think, since their drop rate isn't anywhere near as low for the most part.
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Nov 11, 2013 20:13
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Yeah, I feel bad for everyone who can't get the molds, it didn't take much time at all for me to get all of them. Usually they dropped while I was grinding for other stuff.
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Nov 11, 2013 20:23
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I think that up until Plantera, Hardmode has ok progression. You have the hardmode ores, which you can mostly ignore or farm depending on your playstyle, the 'basic' soul weapons (including Golden Shower, Crystal Storm, and the Dao of Pow) that are easy enough to gather the components for, and Frost Armor which is a guaranteed drop from each golem. You can assemble the basic wings from harpy feathers if you don't get a frost feather from ice golem farming. It won't take too long to get some of the best mimic accessories if you're committed to running back and forth on your hellbridge with a water candle in hand for a bit. That's more than enough to handle at least one of the hardmode bosses. Once you can reliably kill the Destroyer or Twins, you can easily assemble Hallowed equipment, which allows you to farm chlorophyte, which opens up Chlorophyte, Turtle, and Shroomite equipment (although Turtle will take some farming). Once you beat Plantera, even Spectre equipment isn't too difficult to make. The problem is that the best-of-the-best equipment (Vamp Knives, Nimbus Rod, Magnet Sphere, Inferno Fork) are really tough to get, but they're totally unnecessary until you're ready to face the Pumpkin Moon.
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Nov 11, 2013 20:39
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:The problem is that the best-of-the-best equipment (Vamp Knives, Nimbus Rod, Magnet Sphere, Inferno Fork) are really tough to get, but they're totally unnecessary until you're ready to face the Pumpkin Moon. Nimbus rod isn't that hard to get, it's just getting lucky with Angry Nimbus spawns when it's raining. I got my nimbus rod before I killed any Hardmode boss.
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Nov 11, 2013 21:39
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I'm going to go against the general sentiment and say there are enough easily accessible powerful options that the super rare drops are more like a nice bonus if you happen to luck into them and totally unnecessary to play the core game. It's not the fact that the game is too hard without the drops, it's the fact that people (myself included) resent having to do endless tedious grinding to access all the content of our singleplayer game. I know I CAN win with golden shower and the megashark, but I want to mess around with all the stuff. Getting the rare drops isn't difficult, it's just incredibly boring.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:22
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Man I hope you guys never want to 100% complete one of the GBA/DS Castlevanias. Terraria has nothing on them when it comes to rare drops.
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Nov 11, 2013 22:32
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legoman727 posted:And then you get to super hard mode and it turns into 1.2. gently caress Red Cloud. Super Hard Mode is reaaaaally bullshit, but I don't think it makes how fun it was throughout Normal and Hard not count. gently caress, if you find that you really hate SHM, which is fair, just pretend the game ends after the final boss of Hard. There's still plenty of content there. I really like Red Cloud, I hope Tim makes it fully 1.2 compatible in the future, even if he doesn't actually change anything. I really end up missing some of the new QoL improvements that 1.2 added, even though Red Cloud has MUCH better and more fun progression (until SHM).
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Nov 11, 2013 22:45
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Man I hope you guys never want to 100% complete one of the GBA/DS Castlevanias. Terraria has nothing on them when it comes to rare drops.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:20
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Dumb question: If I get to the bottom of the map, is it safe to step off blocks and onto the bottom? Or is it a bottomless pit?
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Nov 11, 2013 23:39
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:Man I hope you guys never want to 100% complete one of the GBA/DS Castlevanias. Terraria has nothing on them when it comes to rare drops. I 100%ed all of them and I wouldn't even think about loving around with grinding in Terraria but that probably has more to do with being older and having less free time than the game itself. Although I did get the mats to make an AFK farm this morning so
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Nov 11, 2013 23:42
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ConfusedUs posted:Dumb question: If I get to the bottom of the map, is it safe to step off blocks and onto the bottom? Or is it a bottomless pit? I haven't tried it since before 1.2, but it should still be safe. Much the same as standing on the upper edge of the world with a gravity potion in effect.
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Nov 11, 2013 23:59
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SourceElement posted:I haven't tried it since before 1.2, but it should still be safe. Much the same as standing on the upper edge of the world with a gravity potion in effect. I haven't tried that either!
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Nov 12, 2013 00:01
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I can confirm it works in 1.2. You just stand on nothing. (Lava and water drain out through the hole to nowhere, though.)
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Nov 12, 2013 00:03
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ConfusedUs posted:I haven't tried that either! Hitting the top with a gravity potion automatically re-flips you.
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Nov 12, 2013 00:05
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The Leper Colon V posted:As someone who 100%ed Aria, at least that game had ways to up the drop rate. This is the answer. Make a consumable that boosts the drop rate or make it an accessory prefix. Like 2x, 3x, 4x on the prefixes and 5x for the consumable or something.
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Nov 12, 2013 00:06
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FraudulentEconomics posted:This is the answer. Make a consumable that boosts the drop rate or make it an accessory prefix. Like 2x, 3x, 4x on the prefixes and 5x for the consumable or something. This would be a good middle-ground.
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Nov 12, 2013 00:26
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Aside from the Wall of Flesh kicking my rear end, I just noticed, is that the skynet laser sound they used for his attacks? Also, Is there any item out there that lets you swim around lava permanently? Other than that Ironskin potion.
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Nov 12, 2013 05:48
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Nothing for permanent, but there are accessories that give you up to seven seconds of lava exposure before you start to take damage.
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Nov 12, 2013 06:15
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The only appropriate weapon to use with the alien costume is the bladed glove. It's not a weapon, but also try Spooky Hook with that outfit. It matches perfectly.
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Nov 12, 2013 06:28
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Hellevator complete! Started straight under my house. Only hit two pockets of lava on the way down, and I was able to easily pour water down the shaft to make it into obsidian. Hit a massive pocket of ruby and sapphire. About 30 of each. I went ahead and threw rope down it the whole way, because sliding down the rope doesn't seem any slower than falling. Question: in the jungle, I found a structure. It is surrounded by orange bricks that have faces on them. I can't mine through even with my crimtane axe. I found a door but it takes a key. What is this? Where do I get the key?
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Nov 12, 2013 06:45
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ConfusedUs posted:Question: in the jungle, I found a structure. It is surrounded by orange bricks that have faces on them. I can't mine through even with my crimtane axe. I found a door but it takes a key. What is this? Where do I get the key? It's a Jungle Temeple made from Lihzahrd blocks. The key drops from Plantera, so you won't be getting in for a while.
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Nov 12, 2013 07:15
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:It's a Jungle Temeple made from Lihzahrd blocks. The key drops from Plantera, so you won't be getting in for a while. And by "a while" he means "near the very end of the game", so yeah. The blocks can only be mined from a the best pickaxe, found inside (with some luck). You lucked out, some people have a hard time finding the temple.
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Nov 12, 2013 07:23
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Fargin Icehole posted:Aside from the Wall of Flesh kicking my rear end, I just noticed, is that the skynet laser sound they used for his attacks? There's a rare gold chest item (cavern level, 2.5% occurrence) called a Lava Charm that grants 7 seconds of immunity to lava. You can replenish the timer nearly instantly by jumping back out of the lava. You can also craft Lava Charms into Lava Waders, and the immunity stacks, for 14 total seconds of immunity at a time. Really useful for exploring the lower cavern / underworld when you're starting out, but after that there's not much reason to waste an accessory slot on them.
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Nov 12, 2013 07:50
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qnqnx posted:
Early on, I just went with the caves. Now that I have more stuff than I know what to do with, I tend to explore with more purpose and direction. I'm not afraid to just tunnel straight through solid ground for a bit to help find hidden caves and stuff.
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Nov 12, 2013 08:25
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I've gotten to the point (pre-hardmode) where I just duped a couple chests full of sticky bombs and dynamite. I don't even bother using my pickaxe anymore. I am terminally lazy.
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Nov 12, 2013 08:55
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ConfusedUs posted:Early on, I just went with the caves. Now that I have more stuff than I know what to do with, I tend to explore with more purpose and direction. I'm not afraid to just tunnel straight through solid ground for a bit to help find hidden caves and stuff. Spelunker potion is great stuff to help you out. It uses gold ore and moonglow but it's worth it.
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Nov 12, 2013 09:01
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:There's a rare gold chest item (cavern level, 2.5% occurrence) called a Lava Charm that grants 7 seconds of immunity to lava. You can replenish the timer nearly instantly by jumping back out of the lava. You can also craft Lava Charms into Lava Waders, and the immunity stacks, for 14 total seconds of immunity at a time. Really useful for exploring the lower cavern / underworld when you're starting out, but after that there's not much reason to waste an accessory slot on them. I wish you could craft the Frostspark Boots with the Lava Waders, and have one Ultimate Boot Accessory.
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Nov 12, 2013 09:47
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Doesn't the obsidian skin potion give absolute immunity to lava? I swear I remember swimming around through hell to mine out hellstone, but that was a longass time ago so my memory is likely imperfect.
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Nov 12, 2013 15:18
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Dana Crysalis posted:I wish you could craft the Frostspark Boots with the Lava Waders, and have one Ultimate Boot Accessory. I wish I could put the Lucky Horseshoe on my Bundle of Balloons, for the Ultimate Wings-free Jumping Experience.  I know Wings or the Jetpack negate fall damage, but I hate how they give my character a backpack, and change the physics of jumping!
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Nov 12, 2013 18:55
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Dana Crysalis posted:I wish you could craft the Frostspark Boots with the Lava Waders, and have one Ultimate Boot Accessory.  I'd go for that as well, because it weirds me out a little bit when I'm wearing both. Like, am I wearing one on each foot? Does one pair go on my ears? Or my hands? Maybe I'm wearing a pair like they're knee-pads. 
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Nov 12, 2013 20:19
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I'm gonna have to take on the pumpkin moon soon. Even though I should probably send another world to hardmode + farm a few more uber traps first. Oh god.
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Nov 13, 2013 03:04
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Dana Crysalis posted:I wish you could craft the Frostspark Boots with the Lava Waders, and have one Ultimate Boot Accessory. Well sure but can you keep jerky in it?
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Nov 13, 2013 03:55
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crestfallen posted:I'm gonna have to take on the pumpkin moon soon. Even though I should probably send another world to hardmode + farm a few more uber traps first. Oh god. You don't need to farm any traps. Make a wood platform to stand on like 10 blocks above some flat ground and use Spectre Armour + Cross Necklace with whatever other accessories. Nimbus Rod + Inferno Fork and you're good to go. Easy to get to wave 15 if you have menacing accessories.
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Nov 13, 2013 04:21
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I don't and I probably don't have enough money to ensure I can get them. I'll probably end up giving it a shot after a while anyway.
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Nov 13, 2013 05:15
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Is there a less-insane way to make tunnels through sand than taking all the sand out manually? I'm trying to dig a kickass tunnel from one end of the world to the other, and I dredge-and-replaced my way alll the way to when I started dumping my ocean into the dungeon. Oops. Then I tried using actuators to pull sand back, then mining underneath. That causes all the sand above to rapidly vanish into nothingness. I can make my way through with minimal water getting in that way (like 5 blocks worth per block over, I can manage that) but losing all that sand means lots of time with a sand gun and necro armor, or LOTS of time with an antlion.
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Nov 13, 2013 05:36
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Why is it still raining/are enemies still spawning inside my new gigantic tree fort even though it's all enclosed and lit? Don't tell me it's because of the pattern in the glass wall, because that is more than I am prepared to deal with right now. I'll have to go out and buy an NES controller so I can throw it at the wall in frustration.
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Nov 13, 2013 11:44
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Paco de Suave posted:Why is it still raining/are enemies still spawning inside my new gigantic tree fort even though it's all enclosed and lit? Don't tell me it's because of the pattern in the glass wall, because that is more than I am prepared to deal with right now. I'll have to go out and buy an NES controller so I can throw it at the wall in frustration. Yeah, it ain't anywhere close to being enclosed. You probably ought have looked up the rules for what counts as an indoors space if you wanted to leave holes in your backwalls. e: You might get it to work if you fill in every missing backwall line intersection. The remaining segments look like they'd be at most 4 blocks long. Ornedan fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Ornedan posted:Yeah, it ain't anywhere close to being enclosed. You probably ought have looked up the rules for what counts as an indoors space if you wanted to leave holes in your backwalls. I looked up the wiki pages for glass walls before I made it, all of the pictures use a pattern like that or smaller. You'd think they would mention something about it. See: http://terraria.gamepedia.com/Glass_Wall
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