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Is Umaro really meant to be a joke, though? He's competent enough to not really be 'funny' but awful enough to not be worth using. Not to mention you can have joke characters that are still usable.
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dis astranagant posted:SaGa Frontier 2 only has one scenario that's actually hard if you know what you're doing. Even the ridiculously long endboss is perfectly manageable if you take a little time to get your final party up to speed. Battle of South Moundtop can eat a bag of dicks but that's what they made Gamefaqs for. At least you can spark some reasonably good attacks from them early on in the game (if they don't use their super-powered attacks). Maybe "balanced" was the wrong word, but basically gently caress anyone who makes "challenging" bosses by giving them weird invincibility-alike gimmicks and overwhelmingly high stats and saying "well you just need to change your tactics  "
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Brave New World wasn't even that hard from what I played of it, though? Like it's not 7th Saga or anything.
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The White Dragon posted:
Ugh, memories of xenoblade...
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I'm just past the opera house in Brave New World (Active, fastest battle speed in spite of the modder's advice), and while there have been a couple of gotchas, I've found it to be overall a reasonable challenge and a great excuse to revisit FF6. The 'clean' dialogue still has some dumb jokes but nothing overly distracting like the gratuitous profanity of the previous version. Things that I have wiped on, so far:
Someone mentioned difficulty with Dadaluma -- Zozo is a bitch in general. Enemies dish out a ton of damage, but if you can make it to the end with enough restoratives to face him at full HP/MP, he shouldn't be too bad, albeit it is a long fight. I went in with Locke/Sabin/Celes/Edgar all around level 11 or 12. Really, all I did was have Edgar with Flash ready to re-up Seizure whenever Dadaluma came down from a jump. Otherwise, Sabin would just Fight, Edgar would Bio Blast, Celes would heal (easy as I don't recall the boss having attacks that damage multiple targets), and Locke would pick up slack where necessary. Make sure Sabin is using Fight rather than Blitz, and that he has two Poison Claws instead of equipping the Hell Claw you get just before the battle to better exploit weaknesses. I also gave Sabin the Black Belt for the sake of sneaking in more delicious 2x claw damage, but I don't remember it ever paying off. Dadaluma died just as Celes' MP reserves began to get down to the wire. If having to think that much about beating an early-game boss fight sounds appealing, then I endorse this mod! It's hardly rocket science, but it's leagues beyond what was required of you in the vanilla game. krystal.lynn fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 07:12
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Finally finished XIII....what a terrible boss, bad ending. Time for XIII-2, I guess.
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Kanpachi posted:
To be fair, they did this in the vanilla FF6. Something like a 1/3 shot there, but still.
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Boy, there's something about FFXII that makes me want to  I can't play the game for more than 30 minutes at a time because the way the camera swings around when you hit a barrier just makes me so queasy, and any time the game goes to an interior space I tend to have this issue. And the game is running at 60fps so it's not like there's any framerate fuckery that's contributing, I just straight up can't look at this game for very long unless I'm running around in a huge field or something.
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1st AD posted:Boy, there's something about FFXII that makes me want to Are you playing on PS2 or emulated?
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Endorph posted:Is Umaro really meant to be a joke, though? He's competent enough to not really be 'funny' but awful enough to not be worth using. Not to mention you can have joke characters that are still usable. Umaro isn't unusable- with the Snow Muffler he's pretty much nigh-unkillable and his damage with his Bone Club and his unique accessories is really high for the early parts of the World of Ruin- but the problem is that Magic is what breaks FF6 and the few characters that are notable physical powerhouses have the ability to negate enemy defenses (Locke) get around the penalties from the Offering to attack repeatedly at high power (Setzer) or Wind Slash Shenanigans (Cyan, Gau in the earliest versions of the game). Without any of those, anyone stuck relying on Attacking repeatedly for damage would eventually fall off and Umaro was no exception. That said, Square loves the Berserker concept but just doesn't care enough to put in the time to make one that isn't bad. They tried with Umaro by giving him mountains of free stats but running and swinging at things was about the worst way to get stuff done in FF6 regardless of how stacked you were at it.
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1st AD posted:Boy, there's something about FFXII that makes me want to I got that the first day I played FFXII, but not again after that. It's probably related to the fact that I quit pointlessly spinning the camera around constantly.
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FFXIII-3: Return of the Lightning scans:  Cid Returns. The Not-Seymour Guado on the left is "Bhunivelze" aka crystal-robo-god.  Close-up.  Achievement list has also come out; looks like robo-god is the final boss. 
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Nov 13, 2013 17:06
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There is nothing about Lightning's costume that is not stupid. Nothing.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Close-up. Hmmm Robot God Looks a hell of a lot like Orphan/Barthandelus. Is it happening? Is Space Pope the true final ending of this stupid stupid sub-franchise?
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At this rate, we'll get the final cutscene by monday. Genius.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Hmmm Robot God Looks a hell of a lot like Orphan/Barthandelus. Is it happening? Is Space Pope the true final ending of this stupid stupid sub-franchise? He doesn't really look like either of them other than that ornamental mechano-statue look. I mean, I won't be surprised if they pull that "twist" out of their collective classically-architected bums but I think its a bit of a stretch based on the imagery. Unrelated; FFX why are some of your ultimate weapons so easy to obtain and others stupidly difficult. Theres no eveness here, 2 of them just require a little effort and can be worked on simultaneously while some of the others are basically random chance or insane grinding. Thank god the only character worth a drat in the vanilla version is an easy one.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Hmmm Robot God Looks a hell of a lot like Orphan/Barthandelus. Is it happening? Is Space Pope the true final ending of this stupid stupid sub-franchise? It's not Space Pope. I think it was the god he was trying to summon in XIII, by killing Cocoon, or whatever. For whatever reason, in XIII-3, Robo-God brings back Lightning from her bitch-crystal, and says "Save/punch people or whatever", and that's the prompt for the plot - as far as I understand the synopsis anyway. Although, I will laugh my rear end off if it turns out to be Space Pope.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Although, I will laugh my rear end off if it turns out to be Space Pope. I will laugh harder if it turns out to be Space Ecumenical Patriarch and the entire game trilogy turns out to be a massively convoluted retelling of the great schism.
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Pesky Splinter posted:It's not Space Pope. I think it was the god he was trying to summon in XIII, by killing Cocoon, or whatever. For whatever reason, in XIII-3, Robo-God brings back Lightning from her bitch-crystal, and says "Save/punch people or whatever", and that's the prompt for the plot - as far as I understand the synopsis anyway. Couldn't be, he was trying to Summon Etro. It was her gate.
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The basic premise is that the world is hosed and Lightning is collecting souls, Valkyrie-style, but any souls left behind are doomed to literal nonexistance. It's pretty logical for Robogod to be the last boss when the inevitable Best Ending is going to be "they somehow punch things hard enough that those souls are not doomed to nonexistance" because that is how Final Fantasy rolls. I'd put my odds on Lightning becoming the literal god of the world at the end, Valkyrie Profile style, because really Lightning Returns desperately wants to be a VP game. Also: Goddess of Death achivement posted:Proof of defeating 10 Last Ones, exterminating forever 10 different species of monster. Jesus Christ. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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This is not clothes! Clothes! Wear clothes!. I swear to loving God.
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Nah, her clothes are fine, she's just wackily stuck in a permanent Marilyn Manson-esque windstorm that's constantly blowing her skirts up, teehee.
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Theglavwen posted:Nah, her clothes are fine, she's just wackily stuck in a permanent Marilyn Manson-esque windstorm that's constantly blowing her skirts up, teehee. Monroe, not Manson.
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Hah, lookit that. Yeah, Monroe. Actually, no, gonna stand by Manson. You've just never had a chance to see him in a wind-storm.
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ImpAtom posted:The basic premise is that the world is hosed and Lightning is collecting souls, Valkyrie-style, but any souls left behind are doomed to literal nonexistance. It's pretty logical for Robogod to be the last boss when the inevitable Best Ending is going to be "they somehow punch things hard enough that those souls are not doomed to nonexistance" because that is how Final Fantasy rolls. I'd put my odds on Lightning becoming the literal god of the world at the end, Valkyrie Profile style, because really Lightning Returns desperately wants to be a VP game. You'd be pleased to know that Tri-Ace was working on Lighting Returns 
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BottledBodhisvata posted:This is not clothes! Clothes! Wear clothes!. I swear to loving God. There's nothing wrong with wearing bits of scrap metal and torn up trenchcoats, at least compared to double denim.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:You'd be pleased to know that Tri-Ace was working on Lighting Returns So what you're saying is that the true ending is going to require arcane bullshit like sparing two specific species from extinction, genociding the rest, and making sure Snow wears a particular hat on a particular day.
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I can't think of anything that would make me happier if Space Pope were to return in LR, that would make all of the terrible non-gameplay stuff worth it, especially if you get an optional Space Pope outfit for Lightning. Bhunivelze is a cool design though, I like him.BottledBodhisvata posted:This is not clothes! Clothes! Wear clothes!. I swear to loving God. Why the gently caress is Toriyama such a god drat creep? Jesus christ, I can't imagine Nomura being told to come up with these designs and not being like "loving jesus, can I make one outfit belts covering the whole body so she has something covering some skin?" Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Cao Ni Ma posted:You'd be pleased to know that Tri-Ace was working on Lighting Returns They were working on FFXIII-2 too. I get the feeling someone desperately wants to make another VP game but knows it won't be marketable. Unfortunately Toriyama's tainted touch is upon all before us.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Why the gently caress is Toriyama such a god drat creep? Jesus christ, I can't imagine Nomura being told to come up with these designs and not being like "loving jesus, can I make one outfit belts covering the whole body so she has something covering some skin?" Which just makes them awkwardly stick out even more.
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Pureauthor posted:So what you're saying is that the true ending is going to require arcane bullshit like sparing two specific species from extinction, genociding the rest, and making sure Snow wears a particular hat on a particular day. Yes and in the true ending path everything is revealed to be video game and that the end of time is actually the scheduled shutdown of the games servers. It segues into FFXV. vvv Hobo, Butler, Cloud and the samurai armors look fine if it wasnt for her weird proportions.
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Endorph posted:Plenty of the outfits are fairly non-fanservicey. In fact from the ones I've seen, the fanservicey ones are in the vast minority. Where are they? Because I haven't really been seeing them. I know someone posted like a collection of them a while back and some of them still looked rather risque.
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Beep boop bop. More pictures: Caius' returns (not that it's unexpected), and Goth Not-Sera cries.  "My Fists...are a tool of Justice!" Something about how the passage of time works ingame.   More Costumes: Tron-Lightning  "It was acceptable in the 80's"  "Just struttin' my stuff"  
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Yes and in the true ending path everything is revealed to be video game and that the end of time is actually the scheduled shutdown of the games servers. It segues into FFXV. Oh, so it's a sequel to two different games at once, huh?
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Why does she have arms and shoulders like a little girl? Oh because Toriyama is a creep and pedo probably.
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ImpAtom posted:I'd put my odds on Lightning becoming the literal god of the world at the end, Valkyrie Profile style, Toriyama knows that Lightning's time in the limelight is coming to an end so he's trying to immortalize Lightning in Final Fantasy canon. We're going to see Lightning as a summon/eidolon in future Final Fantasy games. Sex_Ferguson posted:Why the gently caress is Toriyama such a god drat creep? Jesus christ, I can't imagine Nomura being told to come up with these designs and not being like "loving jesus, can I make one outfit belts covering the whole body so she has something covering some skin?" Toriyama probably has a lot of enablers that won't him off for being such a goony creep. And I wouldn't be surprised if Nomura made some of these stupid costume designs himself. He has a history of strange costume ideas.
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1st AD posted:Why does she have arms and shoulders like a little girl? Because they gave her weird-rear end proportions. Vanderdeath covers it pretty well.
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Lightning's legs have a really odd length. It's like her thighs are way too long. Or something to do with the placement of her knees.
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Pesky Splinter posted:"Just struttin' my stuff" Pirate Lightning actually owns quite a bit.
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