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Did Q show up in DS9 after that? I haven't seen the whole series, but he tends to stick out.
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Shadeoses posted:Did Q show up in DS9 after that? I haven't seen the whole series, but he tends to stick out. Nope, that's the only time.
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Nov 13, 2013 13:40
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I like to imagine that the Prophets told him to gently caress off and that they were tired of his poo poo.
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Nov 13, 2013 13:41
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Hyperriker posted:I remember noticing this immediately, first time, at eight loving years old goddamn Same. I was around 9 or 10 and immediately identified it as being from ST6. Another reason why Generations is ARSE.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:07
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Nutsngum posted:Same. I was around 9 or 10 and immediately identified it as being from ST6. Was it really that expensive to make a cheap model, fill it with explosives, and blow it up on camera?
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Nov 13, 2013 15:11
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BrandonGK posted:Was it really that expensive to make a cheap model, fill it with explosives, and blow it up on camera? Apparently it was expensive enough.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:24
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BrandonGK posted:Was it really that expensive to make a cheap model, fill it with explosives, and blow it up on camera? I assume that is money that Shatner wanted.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:25
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I'd like to see Q go into their somber heartbeat-filled world and appear sitting on a table or on the balcony or whatever, drape his arm over one of their shoulders and just generally be an rear end to them. As one omnipotent energy being to another, if you will.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:25
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Farecoal posted:If only all Star Trek fistfights could have been as well choreographed and intense as the one in A Matter of Honor. Could you guys imagine every DS9 fight scene being that good? The scene where Worf fights all those dudes on the prison planet was cool. Will nobody acknowledge that Sisko poisoned a whole planet after talking about how if he's the bad guy, he'll be the bad guy or the danger or something? It's like classic cable antihero poo poo and then he goes back to normal.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:31
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Oh. http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/11/star-trek-green-screen/ Oh no. Oh no.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:34
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BrandonGK posted:Was it really that expensive to make a cheap model, fill it with explosives, and blow it up on camera? It may very well have been a last-minute reshoot thing to make the movie more exciting, so rather than build a model and blow it up at the end of the their budget, they just reused a clip. Is it cheap? Yeah. But that's probably the point.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:35
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Bicyclops posted:Weirdly, TOS can sometimes look a little less low budget than early TNG, actually, mostly because they were pretty aware that they were doing things like filming on an old Western set and compensated for it, whereas TNG's early solution was to activate the fog machine and fake lightning against a purple backdrop. Gas God Space Monster #s 1-27 are almost all a hell of a lot better looking than the blob monster that kills Tasha. Even the rubber lizard suit looks less absurd than some of those super 80s effects. The blob monster was at least an interesting attempt and turned out way better than the Sheliak. And come on, the human face coming out of the black goop was cool. I think what hurt Skin of Evil more was that the TNG guys completely sucked at doing the soundstage planet sets. The backdrops always looked super hokey. Angry Salami posted:TMP's official budget is pretty much Hollywood accounting, though - it's including the costs of all the failed Star Trek projects that came before it, like the "Phase 2" series. It probably had more money to play with than the later movies, but not by the massive amount that the official figures make it look like it had. TMP still ran into some pretty severe budget overruns though, to the point where Paramount would have been in trouble if the movie had bombed.
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Nov 13, 2013 15:39
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Count Chocula posted:Will nobody acknowledge that Sisko poisoned a whole planet after talking about how if he's the bad guy, he'll be the bad guy or the danger or something? It's like classic cable antihero poo poo and then he goes back to normal. He's not the bad guy, but he can live with it. He can live with it, right?
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Nov 13, 2013 16:34
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Count Chocula posted:Will nobody acknowledge that Sisko poisoned a whole planet after talking about how if he's the bad guy, he'll be the bad guy or the danger or something? It's like classic cable antihero poo poo and then he goes back to normal. The Heisenberg is aggressive, combative.
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Nov 13, 2013 16:36
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Gonz posted:Oh. This came up a thread or two ago. Someone dug up one with Babylon 5's Michael O'Hare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27MXcQrZc1Y
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Nov 13, 2013 17:09
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Hyperriker posted:I remember noticing this immediately, first time, at eight loving years old goddamn Well, sure, when Aatrek points it out to you ahead of time.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:26
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Sprat Sandwich posted:Nope, that's the only time. First time they meet Sisko hits him. Picard never hit him. Q realized The Sisko isn't going to put up with his poo poo. Also, Sisko only poisoned the planet for humans in response to another planet being poisoned for cardies. At the end of the episode, the two settlements literally just switched planets and it ended there. If you want real bad go watch how he brought the Romulans into the war.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:38
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DemeaninDemon posted:First time they meet Sisko hits him. Picard never hit him. Q realized The Sisko isn't going to put up with his poo poo. But it was Garak who blew up the shuttle. Sisko's plan was a bit underhanded, but it failed, hence the "IT'S A FAAAAAKE" thing.
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Nov 13, 2013 18:07
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DrSunshine posted:But it was Garak who blew up the shuttle. Sisko's plan was a bit underhanded, but it failed, hence the "IT'S A FAAAAAKE" thing. If you think Sisko didn't know, in his heart of hearts, exactly what he was getting into by asking for Garak's help, then you need your head examined. It was a very messy, very bloody business, indeed.
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Nov 13, 2013 18:10
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One thing I've always wondered is if there's ships that don't encounter anything exciting their entire careers? So far we've seen tons of adventures on three Enterprises "to boldly going", one vessel in the Delta Quadrant, and a space station in the Wild West of the Federation. Naturally, all of these places are going to be encountering weird poo poo and be targeted by enemies. But is there ever, like, a pudgy little Nebula-class whose entire career from shipyard to scrapyard was nosing around the Sol system and shuttling diplomats to milquetoast Federation planets? They've never even put the shields up. The crew slow-paced middle-aged men and women as well as some of the dumber Federation member races, who spend most of their time holodecking, wandering the arboretum, and eating--sort of like the Enterprise D, but nobody is ever interrupted by a red alert and the holodeck never creates an evil god. Everyone has love handles and, in these uniforms, it shows. Wolf 359 came and went, nobody even put them on a short-list to counter the Borg threat. The Dominion war surges across the quadrant like a storm, and Captain Amanda Brown is eating a doughnut in The Forward Cafe pretending to care what the Bolian Ambassador is saying, the USS Banality trundling along to yet another summit. But you get to learn things about Federation races... although not necessarily interesting things. More about what various worlds' diplomatic staff like for meals, and how they decorate, and the bullshit loving pointless things they complain about like oh my god, my replicator doesn't make an accurate Rigellian mousefish curry, my bed is horizontal, the gravity is uneven, and there aren't any towels for the sonic shower. I'd watch that.
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Nov 13, 2013 18:47
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Brawnfire posted:One thing I've always wondered is if there's ships that don't encounter anything exciting their entire careers? So far we've seen tons of adventures on three Enterprises "to boldly going", one vessel in the Delta Quadrant, and a space station in the Wild West of the Federation. Naturally, all of these places are going to be encountering weird poo poo and be targeted by enemies. There's that episode of DS9 where Bashir's classmate from space med school shows up at the station and it turns out the mission she's been on for 5 years was a total loving bore.
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Nov 13, 2013 19:04
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Those cushy space jobs always suddenly turn toward disaster their replicators turn them into monster people or they get sucked into the future, mostly so that when the Enterprise(s) encounter them during some sort of shore leave, it's still an exciting adventure!
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Starfleet postings are all hell. If you're not posted directly to Enterprise, there's a 5% chance your entire ship will die in an interesting enough way that Enterprise will investigate. And if you are posted to Enterprise, well, it's just low-level danger and irritating bullshit every single week. You might not die, but you're not getting any work done, either.
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Nov 13, 2013 20:30
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Starfleet postings are all hell. If you're not posted directly to Enterprise, there's a 5% chance your entire ship will die in an interesting enough way that Enterprise will investigate. And if you are posted to Enterprise, well, it's just low-level danger and irritating bullshit every single week. You might not die, but you're not getting any work done, either. Unless its the original Enterprise, then you are turned into cubes or sent to the Apple planet. You could also loose your face or killed by a rampaging robot.
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Nov 13, 2013 20:31
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Mike the TV posted:You mean that wasn't him in Ender's Game. I knew I couldn't be the only person who thought Aron Eisenberg was in this movie, even for a second.
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Nov 13, 2013 20:58
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CPColin posted:Well, sure, when Aatrek points it out to you ahead of time. Probably not your smartest move, just saying
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Nov 13, 2013 21:01
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MikeJF posted:TOS was always very big on using whatever sets they had lying around from other productions. It's why there are so many Earth history knockoffs. Use the backlot, Luke.
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Nov 13, 2013 21:01
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Kibayasu posted:Some people do just get out of acting, you know? I don't want to say DS9 was perhaps a terrible experience for him but maybe it showed that he didn't really want to be a TV or movie actor or something. His Wikipedia says he's a stage actor these days when he's not being a photographer.
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Luigi Thirty posted:His Wikipedia says he's a stage actor these days when he's not being a photographer. That's cool, I was just spit-balling possibilities. Mostly what I was saying is that just because IMBD doesn't have someone listed as doing anything after a specific production (and if they aren't stage acting either) doesn't necessarily equal a sad thing. Acting can be a job like any other and sometimes you just don't do a job any more for whatever reason.
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Nov 13, 2013 21:41
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I wonder if they scare new cadets with rumors that Janeway will be demoted back to the captaincy.
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Nov 13, 2013 22:03
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Nutsngum posted:Same. I was around 9 or 10 and immediately identified it as being from ST6. Generations is still my favourite TNG film, the soundtrack saves it.
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Nov 13, 2013 22:57
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Thom12255 posted:Generations is still my favourite TNG film, the soundtrack saves it. Also it's beautiful to look at
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Nov 13, 2013 23:21
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Damning with faint praise.
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Nov 13, 2013 23:26
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ashpanash posted:Damning with faint praise. It doesn't have to be the greatest thing since sliced bread to still appreciate the excellent parts of the movie.
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Nov 13, 2013 23:49
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Gonz posted:Oh. It'll look better when they remaster it for the next TNG Blu-ray set.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Starfleet postings are all hell. If you're not posted directly to Enterprise, there's a 5% chance your entire ship will die in an interesting enough way that Enterprise will investigate. Look, as long as you stay on the other side of the Federation to the Enterprise you can happily spend your life sniffing comets without anything exciting happening.
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The space shots in Generations are beautiful. The lighting on the Ten-Forward scene at Amargosa is probably the best part of the movie.
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It's also the only time other than Yesterday's Enterprise that the ship's main bar is packed.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:03
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gently caress Generations. Here's a Star Trek thing that's better than Generations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKNSWUzC-uc
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I wonder if there's a battle bar that opens up after a saucer separation.
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