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GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Glemy Toto's arc is just weird, and it seems like that the scheming political Glemy was supposed to be Char, but was changed to Glemy because CCA was being made. Honestly, because of that, it would have made even more sense to have Char appear in ZZ to lead up to CCA. It would have been really cool to have a Neo Zeon civil war with factions led by Char and Haman Karn. The big difference is, Char survives and then goes on to try and drop an asteroid on earth. Would have been cool to see what Amuro was up to during ZZ, too.

ZZ is just a weird show that is both a jarring change from Zeta, and then another jarring change when it becomes serious halfway through.

I also really hate Beecha.

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Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I honestly wished ZZ had just stuck with being straight goofy.

Also, thanks for the recommendations. Guess I'll get on that.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Gammatron 64 posted:

Glemy Toto's arc is just weird, and it seems like that the scheming political Glemy was supposed to be Char, but was changed to Glemy because CCA was being made. Honestly, because of that, it would have made even more sense to have Char appear in ZZ to lead up to CCA. It would have been really cool to have a Neo Zeon civil war with factions led by Char and Haman Karn. The big difference is, Char survives and then goes on to try and drop an asteroid on earth. Would have been cool to see what Amuro was up to during ZZ, too.

ZZ is just a weird show that is both a jarring change from Zeta, and then another jarring change when it becomes serious halfway through.

I also really hate Beecha.

IIRC Scheming Glemy was actually supposed to be Char. CCA's plot wouldn't have made much sense without Neo Zeon obliterating itself in ZZ, though; there isn't really room for one faction to "win" because the Federation is so crippled in ZZ that whichever Neo Zeon faction won would have taken everything.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Kanos posted:

IIRC Scheming Glemy was actually supposed to be Char. CCA's plot wouldn't have made much sense without Neo Zeon obliterating itself in ZZ, though; there isn't really room for one faction to "win" because the Federation is so crippled in ZZ that whichever Neo Zeon faction won would have taken everything.

You could probably just have the winning Neo Zeon faction so worn out and crippled in the process of winning they need to take a few years to recuperate supplies and find more members, the way A.E.U.G. was at the end of Zeta basically.

Erd posted:

Those masks were stupid, but they were space-stupid, timelessly stupid. Not 'it's the 80's' stupid. The character designs in ZZ have aged like a sideways ponytail.

If you say so. Personally I think they're just plain stupid. Char's mask especially so, since as far as I recall, he was a kid when his father died so by the time he joins Zeon his face will be a lot different. No-one would recognize him anyways, any one who looked at him would just think his face looks kinda similar to about a thousand other blond people. The mask actually makes him stand out more, not less. Kycillia at least had the excuse of not liking the air in colonies or something, so she's like the people in Japan that walk around wearing little paper breath masks.

Endorph posted:

China is kinda bland and Kirara could be taken in a weird way but I actually like that Sei's mom is A) alive and B) has a distinguishable personality.

Well we can at least hope for better with the Finnish character who's set to appear in future, since she's a fairly serious looking pilot who won the previous World Championship and pilots a Quebeley variant. She might even have some element of Haman in her personality and effectiveness if they make her a villain.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

tsob posted:

Well we can at least hope for better with the Finnish character who's set to appear in future, since she's a fairly serious looking pilot who won the previous World Championship and pilots a Quebeley variant. She might even have some element of Haman in her personality and effectiveness if they make her a villain.

What little we've seen so far (emotionless, dark aura, heavy escort of minders, cryptic utterances, big, scary suit with lots of attack drones) makes her look like the Build Fighters take on the standard Victim Newtype Girl. On the plus side, though, the show has been so happy, good-natured, and light-hearted so far that there's a chance something horrible won't actually happen to her. Mayb she'll end up as Reiji's love interest? I mean, it's not exactly a huge step forward for feminism, but it's a better option than most of the fates for characters of her type in this franchise.

Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Nov 12, 2013

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
More Gundam fanart courtesy of a pretty cool artist on /m/:



Notes from the guy in question on suit design:

Anonymous Artist on m posted:

Gundam Lonestar: Piloted by Autrey Duke, this MS serves as the means of transport for the newly appointed Sheriff of Side-13, aka Sui-Side Springs. His main attack is the revolver punch which shoots a robot shattering shockwave with every haymaker he swings. He defends Sui-Side Springs from the menace of space outlaws like the Wild Zams, Space Pirates led by Gundam Blackbeard, and Space Vampires led by Gundam Feratu. May also include Unicorn style transformation taken to extreme with a normal mode for walking around town talking to folks and a beefed up "High Noon" mode for dealing with bandits.

Gundam Rapier: Piloted by Vega de la Banderez this gundam serves as a hero of the people who find themselves under the attack from the villainous gang, the Wild Zams. His main attacks are his beam rapier and beam whip.

AP-ST0 Pies Verde: Former leader of a gang of bank robbers, defeating his gang was Duke's first arrest. He's piloted by Diego Calliente, who's currently serving out his sentence as Autrey's deputy.

Gundam Desperado: Piloted by notorious space bounty hunter, Ford Honda, Desperado attacks with a wild array of guns and explosives. It also has the best moustache in 3 colonies.

Gundam Railsplitter: Bunyan Irons pilots this titanic machine, that he uses to build interstellar space tracks. He protects Sui-Side Springs as he just bought a stretch of land and needs to protect his investment.

Gundam Walks With Gogs: Piloted by Hi-how R. Ya, this Gundam likes to pretend to be in touch with nature, and it's head dress detaches into feather shaped funnels.

GMY-49R: Piloted by 4-limbed Francis, this modified Star-Union grunt is used primarily to mine for space gold with it's beam shovel.

It saddens me that this will never be a real show in the vein of G Gundam.

tsob fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Nov 12, 2013

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

quote:

Gundam Walks With Gogs: Piloted by Hi-how R. Ya, this Gundam likes to pretend to be in touch with nature, and it's head dress detaches into feather shaped funnels.

Ahaha what the gently caress?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Got a little *too* G Gundam there, guy.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Blasphemy - there's no such thing as too G Gundam.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

I would watch that show, but maybe tone down the native sterotypes.

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.

quote:

Ford Honda

Its gold Jerry. Solid Gold.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



tsob posted:

Blasphemy - there's no such thing as too G Gundam.

Instead of the Burger King, the main suit fires off a clown that looks disturbingly like Ronald McDonald.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
As long as it's a really, really buff clown who looks disturbingly like Ronald McDonald and he's grinning maniacally as he flies at the enemy I don't have a problem with that as a homage.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



tsob posted:

As long as it's a really, really buff clown who looks disturbingly like Ronald McDonald and he's grinning maniacally as he flies at the enemy I don't have a problem with that as a homage.

I wouldn't have it any other way.
So in Shin Gundam Musou/Dynasty Warriors Gundam 4 news, they've added the SEED/SEED Destiny druggies and their respective Gundams. Unfortunately I think the only ones that'll perform in any sort of unique manner will be the Raider and maybe the Abyss and Chaos.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

I thought Glemy's big change came after he got stranded in... the Sahara? and went completely nuts from sunstroke. Would explain a ~lot~ of his weird poo poo later on. Been awhile since I watched the show though.

ActionZero
Jan 22, 2011

I act once more in
imitation of light

TARDISman posted:

So in Shin Gundam Musou/Dynasty Warriors Gundam 4 news, they've added the SEED/SEED Destiny druggies and their respective Gundams. Unfortunately I think the only ones that'll perform in any sort of unique manner will be the Raider and maybe the Abyss and Chaos.

Wow, that's not an addition to the roster I would have expected at all.

ActionZero fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 13, 2013

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

When are we getting Bernie and Chris? :smith:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Endorph posted:

When are we getting Bernie and Chris? :smith:

We'll probably get them eventually.

The SEED dudes are getting in with such numbers because they have a SEED story mode in the game and they need to pad it out with the actual guys you fight in SEED. It's the same reason you've got a lot of generic UC guys filling slots, because they've also got story modes.

Caros
May 14, 2008

ImpAtom posted:

We'll probably get them eventually.

The SEED dudes are getting in with such numbers because they have a SEED story mode in the game and they need to pad it out with the actual guys you fight in SEED. It's the same reason you've got a lot of generic UC guys filling slots, because they've also got story modes.

Will it kill them to give me providence? I love that suit.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Caros posted:

Will it kill them to give me providence? I love that suit.

I'm pretty sure it will be in. It's the Final Boss suit of SEED and they already included Legend Gundam so his voice actor is already in.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Caros posted:

Will it kill them to give me providence? I love that suit.

I would be really surprised if they didn't include it, considering the minor characters they've added.

e: f;b

Caros
May 14, 2008

ImpAtom posted:

I'm pretty sure it will be in. It's the Final Boss suit of SEED and they already included Legend Gundam so his voice actor is already in.

Oh. I didn't know they'd included Legend. Wonderful then. :)

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Pretty much if it's a mobile suit that's attached to Cosmic Era it'll be in the game, I'm just waiting for the GoohN to be confirmed then I'll be a happy camper.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Caros posted:

Oh. I didn't know they'd included Legend. Wonderful then. :)

Yep. Legend and Banshee were among some of the earlier suits confirmed. (In case you're worried about it being all SEED.)

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

TARDISman posted:

Pretty much if it's a mobile suit that's attached to Cosmic Era it'll be in the game, I'm just waiting for the GoohN to be confirmed then I'll be a happy camper.
Can't wait for the Stargazer! :downs:

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I hope the character roster gets so bloated in time that I'll eventually be able to play as Zech's assistant Otto, from Gundam Wing. For most of the game you play as him in a Leo, but if you want :siren:CHALLENGE MODE:siren: you can pilot a Tallgeese and play an entire level with 1 HP. Poor Otto.:smith:

KoB
May 1, 2009
If those fuckin druggies get in and Lowe gets the cold shoulder again Im gonna be so mad.

Tarodia
Jan 13, 2008

Winners don't do drugs
All I need is some Harry Ord!

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

Tarodia posted:

All I need is some Harry Ord!

With this guy.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

KoB posted:

If those fuckin druggies get in and Lowe gets the cold shoulder again Im gonna be so mad.

Lowe hasn't made it in? I would have thought he'd be a natural for a musou game.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Monaghan posted:

Lowe hasn't made it in? I would have thought he'd be a natural for a musou game.

Stop liking Lowe you idiots. Clearly you need to like the great SEED characters like Kira and Shinn. :v:

Edit: and the druggies of course.

Meow Tse-tung
Oct 11, 2004

No one cat should have all that power

Shinjobi posted:

I hope the character roster gets so bloated in time that I'll eventually be able to play as Zech's assistant Otto, from Gundam Wing. For most of the game you play as him in a Leo, but if you want :siren:CHALLENGE MODE:siren: you can pilot a Tallgeese and play an entire level with 1 HP. Poor Otto.:smith:

Entire Katz and Hathaway campaigns.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Monaghan posted:

Lowe hasn't made it in? I would have thought he'd be a natural for a musou game.

Musou games still only have major characters from the mainline shows with one or two exceptions. They don't even have more obvious characters like Sandrock yet, let alone sidestory dudes.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I still want Quatre and the Shuffle Alliance.

Mostly because I want to see Chibodee in the Sandrock.

Also a team of Brad Swailes.

TheBigTwo
Mar 1, 2013
Hey so my brother is staying with me for a month or so and we've been watching some Gundam together. We're just about to finish 00 season 1,and he says he wants to watch season 2. I haven't heard too many good things about the second season (or the movie) so I was wondering if you guys could tell me if it's worth watching, especially since he's only going to be moving out soon and I'd rather not waste that time watching something bad/mediocre.

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

TheBigTwo posted:

Hey so my brother is staying with me for a month or so and we've been watching some Gundam together. We're just about to finish 00 season 1,and he says he wants to watch season 2. I haven't heard too many good things about the second season (or the movie) so I was wondering if you guys could tell me if it's worth watching, especially since he's only going to be moving out soon and I'd rather not waste that time watching something bad/mediocre.

It's mostly mediocre with a lot of wasted potential.

Not terrible, or anything. But honestly if he's about to leave and he really wants to watch it you might as well unless you can convince him to watch something better.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



TheBigTwo posted:

Hey so my brother is staying with me for a month or so and we've been watching some Gundam together. We're just about to finish 00 season 1,and he says he wants to watch season 2. I haven't heard too many good things about the second season (or the movie) so I was wondering if you guys could tell me if it's worth watching, especially since he's only going to be moving out soon and I'd rather not waste that time watching something bad/mediocre.

If you can get your hands on G Gundam that would be more fun, I think.

TheBigTwo
Mar 1, 2013

Midjack posted:

If you can get your hands on G Gundam that would be more fun, I think.

We've already seen G Gundam, (It was amazing) we've also seen most of the UC stuff.

I've convinced him the next series we should watch is Turn A, but he seem a bit wary of it. He says he wants to see more 00 but I don't know, doesn't the first season have an ending already?

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Meow Tse-tung posted:

Entire Katz and Hathaway campaigns.

Hathaway's Flash campaign written by the Drakengard writer.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



TheBigTwo posted:

We've already seen G Gundam, (It was amazing) we've also seen most of the UC stuff.

I've convinced him the next series we should watch is Turn A, but he seem a bit wary of it. He says he wants to see more 00 but I don't know, doesn't the first season have an ending already?

If he really wants to see more 00 you only have one choice then! The first season closes a lot of plot threads but leaves a few open. The second season and movie aren't as good as the first season; I won't go so far as to say they wreck the first season but some people do.

Turn A is excellent once you get over how gullible and/or what willing victims the Moonrace are.

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