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They could have called it the 'Nintendo Jurassic Park With Added Dinosaurs and Batman' and people wouldn't care
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DarthBlingBling posted:They could have called it the 'Nintendo Jurassic Park With Added Dinosaurs and Batman' and people wouldn't care Yeah 'cause no one will have heard of it
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Nov 14, 2013 01:42
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leidend posted:For most people the share button will be sparsely used after you realize no one gives a poo poo about your cool gamer moves.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:26
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leidend posted:For most people the share button will be sparsely used after you realize no one gives a poo poo about your cool gamer moves. I do. I give a poo poo about your cool gamer moves.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:29
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My younger 12 year old brother actually asked for a game capture card so that he could capture his sick trick scoping skills. No joke. When he visited me, every time he would be playing that is all he would do would be to practice trick scoping.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:32
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Zack_Gochuck posted:Why are you guys so mad about the ad? Just don't buy the system. I feel like this thread is just a massive hate train at this point, and if Mario 3D World is the greatest game ever made, people are just going to rant about how it should have been released for Nintendo 64 or some poo poo. I'm mad about the ad because I already BOUGHT the system, and I want to see it achieve some modicum of success so it can actually become a viable enough platform to justify my purchase. They're going for an audience that isn't loving watching that ad, doesn't understand it if they are, and probably doesn't even exist at all. They're somehow bumbling through the exact same mistakes a year into their console's stillbirth, and they don't show any real signs of righting the ship other than stock "we're gonna do things to make it better" responses from Iwata in shareholder meetings. If the Wii U's success could be measured in terms of "not the PS4," that'd be spectacular, but unfortunately the situation isn't even nearly that optimistic. The Wii U has been such a commercial failure it's barely even a blip in the market, and while it's not especially difficult to see a number of things Nintendo could do to help their situation, there's no sign that they have any intention of doing those things. It's loving frustrating to watch a company fall on its own rear end over and over and over, especially when you bought their product.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:49
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Whether or not YOU plan to use the share button is irrelevant. And whether or not most of us like it, the future is pretty much 24/7 connected, Sony and MS are merely embracing this aspect of society. Nintendo on the other hand is still perfectly content with ignoring the internet, it honestly baffles me, they use facebook and youtube so they know its there, but they take 0 effort to integrate it properly into their systems.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:52
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Hey they let you draw messages on the internet with Miiverse!* *until it's removed in a few months like swapnote
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Nov 14, 2013 02:54
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Alteisen posted:Whether or not YOU plan to use the share button is irrelevant. The internet is a giant hose of content that they didn't make and aren't getting paid for. Nintendo's corporate culture simply is not built to allow something like that to be delivered through its machine. I'm honestly amazed Netflix ever showed up on the Wii.
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Nov 14, 2013 02:54
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leidend posted:I remember the change from Ultra being very late. Like people were accustomed to calling it that and then it was changed last second. IIRC, they changed it because Konami owned the company Ultra Games and did not want to give up the rights to the name, but that could be an urban legend.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:05
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DarkSol posted:But the Saturn was huge in Japan, while the WiiU is struggling in its home market. Wii-U is the Neptune then. But the version of the Neptune that got released instead of being shelved. Seriously I wound up buying a Sega Saturn due to the Wii-U having next to no games for the system. Spent around $150 bucks, got the majority of the good Japanese releases and it was a solid purchase. I've got over 50 games for the Saturn because they were going for a few cents even after converting them from yen to dollars. Most expensive game was Panzer Dragoon Saga for 13 dollars which was also the price as the Action Replay. Policenauts and Stalker were 3 dollars each. And then suddenly you realize that Super NES games are cheap as hell in Japan too, and by the end of the night you now have over 100 import games. The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 04:10
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The Wii-U is an excellent multiplayer platform. I've had loads of fun with Nintendo Lands mini games. Nintendo really needs to leverage that side of the system if they want the product to succeed, and they need to stop putting out retarded ads.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:20
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You know... I don't want to see people like myself playing Nintendo games in Nintendo ads. A bunch of guys in their late 20's playing Wii Party U just sounds sad  Even though it's actually really fun.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:24
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WendigoJohnson posted:Wii-U is the Neptune then. But the version of the Neptune that got released instead of being shelved. Wii-U is probably more like the TurboGrafx-16 of this generation, realistically.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:31
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Ap0calyps3 posted:The Wii-U is an excellent multiplayer platform. I've had loads of fun with Nintendo Lands mini games. Nintendo really needs to leverage that side of the system if they want the product to succeed, and they need to stop putting out retarded ads. I think the problem with this is that most people are moving on. Even me, now that I have a car and my own place find it far more difficult to organize gaming get togethers. Its just so much easier and convenient to play stuff online.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:32
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WendigoJohnson posted:Wii-U is the Neptune then. But the version of the Neptune that got released instead of being shelved. But there never was a version of the Sega Neptune that was released?  Zack_Gochuck posted:Wii-U is probably more like the TurboGrafx-16 of this generation, realistically. The PC Engine was also very popular in Japan, and even had decent sales in the US at first. (Although, it had a slow death in the US due to the lack of third party support.) If we're going to compare the WiiU to any sort of "classic" console, the closest I'd consider it to be is like the Neo-Geo. Horrible third party support and overpriced.
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Nov 14, 2013 04:54
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Ap0calyps3 posted:The Wii-U is an excellent multiplayer platform. I've had loads of fun with Nintendo Lands mini games. Nintendo really needs to leverage that side of the system if they want the product to succeed, and they need to stop putting out retarded ads. They need to leverage both sides equally this time around but Nintendo sucks at online stuff or at the least is slow to catch on. Whatever they're doing currently isn't working.
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Nov 14, 2013 05:05
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At this rate the console will be dead before we even get the GBA games that were announced in January, almost a year ago.
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Nov 14, 2013 05:16
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DarkSol posted:If we're going to compare the WiiU to any sort of "classic" console, the closest I'd consider it to be is like the Neo-Geo. Horrible third party support and overpriced. Why not the Atari 7800? Completely unpopular, the only good games for it at all were first party, and it was released with hardware that wasn't up to par with the other consoles it competed against, instead being a slight upgrade over the Colecovision/Intellivision generation. And the most appealing feature it had? Backwards compatibility with its major predecessor, a massively popular and wide selling system.
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Nov 14, 2013 05:22
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DarkSol posted:But there never was a version of the Sega Neptune that was released? By "the version of the Neptune that was released", I'm pretty sure they meant it in "a version of reality in which the Neptune was released"
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Nov 14, 2013 05:23
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The Wii U is the Nomad, right down to the battery life.
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Install Windows posted:Why not the Atari 7800? Completely unpopular, the only good games for it at all were first party, and it was released with hardware that wasn't up to par with the other consoles it competed against, instead being a slight upgrade over the Colecovision/Intellivision generation. And the most appealing feature it had? Backwards compatibility with its major predecessor, a massively popular and wide selling system. At least they had the good sense to give it a bigger number. Nintendo just released the Atari 2600Q.
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Nov 14, 2013 05:57
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Jeffrey posted:At least they had the good sense to give it a bigger number. Nintendo just released the Atari 2600Q. Well the 2600 was marketed as just Atari Video Computer System for most of its life, and the official title of the 7800 was Atari 7800 ProSystem, so that's the same kind of issue. Especially since the cartridges used for it were EXACTLY the same size and shape as the 2600 carts and the packaging was usually extremely similar to the way late-stage 2600 carts were packaged. Oh and a major reason the 7800 didn't perform too well was that they really wanted to go the lazy way of ensuring 2600 compatibility, much like how the Wii U's not as powerful as it could be due to Nintendo wanting to keep Wii compatibility simple to make... Also I have to say, 7800 wasn't really an intuitive number to be used. Sure there was the 5200 in between, but that system actually had been killed off and replaced by new 2600 games before the 7800 finally released.
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Nov 14, 2013 06:27
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Astro7x posted:You know... I don't want to see people like myself playing Nintendo games in Nintendo ads. A bunch of guys in their late 20's playing Wii Party U just sounds sad Majority of videogame commercials never show the people playing anyways. I mean look at how Dark Souls and Dark Souls II were advertised, they never showed people playing the game. Hell Skyrim's commercial was probably the best way to do a straight forward game commercial. Halo Reach was another good way to do a game commercial.
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Nov 14, 2013 06:40
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WendigoJohnson posted:Majority of videogame commercials never show the people playing anyways. I mean look at how Dark Souls and Dark Souls II were advertised, they never showed people playing the game. Nintendo is the only company I can think of that insists on focusing its advertisements around the dorks playing the games rather than the games themselves. I don't know why, or who told them this was a good idea.
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Nov 14, 2013 11:23
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Mandrel posted:Nintendo is the only company I can think of that insists on focusing its advertisements around the dorks playing the games rather than the games themselves. I don't know why, or who told them this was a good idea.  Here is an X-Box One advertisement. With little effort I can find similar advertisements from Sony. You are absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think every company advertises with "look at people playing our thing" stuff.
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Nov 14, 2013 11:31
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Mandrel posted:Nintendo is the only company I can think of that insists on focusing its advertisements around the dorks playing the games rather than the games themselves. I don't know why, or who told them this was a good idea. I think it was the success of the original Wii campaign that told them this was a good idea. Such a good idea that other companies have in fact picked up on the trend. I don't think the problem with the ads is that they focus on groups of people playing the game, that approach is perfectly legitimate. Bigger problems: heavy emphasis on the controller instead of the console, frequently questionable phrasing, lack of big-ticket adspace buys, failure to define the product with clarity.
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Nov 14, 2013 11:34
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Al Borland posted:I dunno man, my parents would have killed for something like this when I was a little kid. Instead of having to fight for the TV with them. You don't have to share the pictures and videos you capture. Would you prefer if it was called the Record button instead? It just means that if you do something amazing in a game, you actually have a video to prove it. E: Sorry, I quoted the wrong post. That Fucking Sned fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 12:44
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That loving Sned posted:You don't have to share the pictures and videos you capture. Would you prefer if it was called the Record button instead? What are you talking about?
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Supercar Gautier posted:I think it was the success of the original Wii campaign that told them this was a good idea. Such a good idea that other companies have in fact picked up on the trend. Failure to actually have uniquely compelling software should always be mentioned. It's pretty obvious that whatever the Wii U has is not nearly enough to drive interest among core gamers and casuals. As excited as I am about the new consoles, there's a library of stuff on the Wii U that is damned good, stuff that I enjoy quite a bit. I and many people in this thread are clearly in the minority in that regard. I honestly don't think there's an ad agency out there that can fix people's perceptions of the Wii U, especially if Nintendo remains confused as to what market they really want to focus on. They had a whole year of bad news happen to them, and they didn't even bother to exploit every single blunder MS was making to try and prop themselves up. They're not going to win the core back when pretty much every major third party is gearing up to focus on more powerful hardware, which will leave the Wii U in a bind pretty quick in the next couple years or so unless Nintendo's output (or the system's sales) increases and we really get to see what the Wii U can do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZkMdi3XBhw That Wii U advert is so grating, even at barely 30 seconds I can't stand it.
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Speaking of Wii U commercials, here is a good place to see them all. A lot of these I have not even seen. http://www.ispot.tv/commercial-search/?path=&term=Wii+U It's strange that they are using the phrase "Upgrade" because a lot of the previous ads have said "All New Wii U" such as Lego City and Here is a Mario and Sonic at the Winter Games commercial which looks like it is airing now on Nicktoons http://www.ispot.tv/ad/71cB/mario-and-sonic-at-the-olympic-winter-games There is also a Sonic Lost Worlds spot airing on Nickelodeon http://www.ispot.tv/ad/71a4/sonic-lost-world
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That loving Sned posted:You don't have to share the pictures and videos you capture. Would you prefer if it was called the Record button instead? What? I was taking about the Wii U controller and not having to play on a big screen. Astro7x posted:Speaking of Wii U commercials, here is a good place to see them all. A lot of these I have not even seen. Do kids even know what Sonic is now a days?
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Nov 14, 2013 21:09
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One thing that just struck me about the new U advert: You don't see the game, or anything more interesting than 'a generic family and a flipchart' for a good ten seconds. The colours are drab, there's no fun sounds. How many kids are going to bother watching an advert for that long to see what it's for? The phrase "family time's dropping fast" sure isn't going to hook them in, ditto the colours and sounds. e: for convenience, take another look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bso27e3Inzc It's not only 'not hitting 'core' gamers', there's no way that's going to grab anyone's attention.
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petrol blue posted:One thing that just struck me about the new U advert: You don't see the game, or anything more interesting than 'a generic family and a flipchart' for a good ten seconds. The colours are drab, there's no fun sounds. How many kids are going to bother watching an advert for that long to see what it's for? The phrase "family time's dropping fast" sure isn't going to hook them in, ditto the colours and sounds. Quick, somebody hire this guy as the lead creative director at the top ad agency in the country! These changes will surely sell another 5 million systems between now and April 1st. I couldn't even tell you what the "perfect day" ads are about until the very end. If you look away during the last two seconds, you're clueless about what was even being advertised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0d9d-cdxhk
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I can't comprehend why Nintendo would using 'upgrade' in the advertisements. I'm imagining people who don't have a Wii (or are looking for a game console to gift) looking at the $299 bundle price, then looking up the price on the original Wii and adding them together to something over $400. Then they go to Gamestop and the salespeople try to sell them on the $399 PS4 that is brand spanking new and has advertisements plastered all over the store.
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Nov 14, 2013 22:27
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Astro7x posted:I couldn't even tell you what the "perfect day" ads are about until the very end. If you look away during the last two seconds, you're clueless about what was even being advertised. Granted, only two of those franchises are Sony exclusive, but... Yeah it's not a perfect ad, but it's attention getting by comparison. It makes the PS4 look like something where you'll have fun experiences playing against or alongside friends. The Wii U ad doesn't have anything to hook your attention and even the gameplay it does show is relatively unremarkable compared to some of the levels we've seen in trailers. A screen full of Mario and Luigis charging through a platoon of Bowser tanks flinging fireballs might make an impression.
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Al Borland posted:Do kids even know what Sonic is now a days? Yes, Sonic games are actually most successful among younger children. A big reason they kept making 3D games despite the adult fanbase complaining nonstop is that their primary market is children. who like the 3D gameplay and have little nostalgia for the Genesis era. I was talking to the producer of Sonic Generations and he had a lot to say about the subject. Games like Sonic & Mario at the Olympic Games also sell gangbusters, but largely to the casual and child crowd. It's really easy to overlook a lot of major titles because they're not targeted towards the kind of people who post on internet MBs. Not just Nintendo games either. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Astro7x posted:I couldn't even tell you what the "perfect day" ads are about until the very end. If you look away during the last two seconds, you're clueless about what was even being advertised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bqq38WZctA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbOjxU6OpoM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z06X8mmMtZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHxicjFRnoo Worked for them so far?
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SBJ posted:It's not even a question anymore, it's a pretty solid no. I love the 3DS and I've been a Nintendo fanboy, but honestly, none of the new games coming out on Wii U appeal to me. I've played Mario Kart a million times and it's more or less always the same poo poo. I'm sorry but I actually do think that even COD has more variety between sequels than Nintendo IP's (except Zelda). I will, however, still buy the poo poo out of the SSB game coming out on 3DS along with the new Zelda one. I strongly disagree. At least you don't get severe eye strain and headaches playing the Wii U for 30 minutes and don't need to change out 6 AA batteries every so often as happened with the Virtual Boy. Second-worst is still nothing to sniff about, though. 
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