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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

LeafyOrb posted:

I really enjoy how apathetic Diantha is compared to previous champions, Cynthia gives more of a gently caress than her.

I just don't understand her weird wing things, they are super anime. At least she gives you a rad Ralts post game.

Maybe she was supposed to be a fairy specialist originally? Before she got her usual team with only a retconned fairy as her MVP.

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


On the Super Training screen, how can I tell which of the stats I should focus on? Some are easy like shitloads of speed or defense but sometimes it's kinda hard to see what's strongest. Some of them are almost entirely rounded, too.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

foolish_fool posted:

I only used one team and only had one pokemon over 70 (a second close-ish, the rest high 50s). I can never really understand how people get so highly levelled during their first playthrough.

Granted this is a fair bit higher than in previous versions, I don't think I've ever gotten to the elite 4 with a pokemon of comparable level to the champion before.

I left on EXP share, constantly spammed capture power, and tried to capture everything in each area before going to the next area.

Also I spent like 3 hours in pokemon village catching Dittos and Zoroarks. v:shobon:v. Not really explicitly grinding, I just wanted to catch some dittos.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

All the actual gym leaders/Elite 4 were fairly underwhelming tbqh. How does only the Champion even manage to have a full 6 Pokemon?!

LeafyOrb
Jun 11, 2012

Pollyanna posted:

On the Super Training screen, how can I tell which of the stats I should focus on? Some are easy like shitloads of speed or defense but sometimes it's kinda hard to see what's strongest. Some of them are almost entirely rounded, too.

You focus on whatever you want, green is the pokemon's bases, yellow the EVs it has.

Edit: also it is in no way a good representation of it's actual stats beyond EVs.

LeafyOrb fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Nov 14, 2013

Malalol
Apr 4, 2007

I spent $1,000 on my computer but I'm too "poor" to take my dog or any of my animals to the vet for vet care. My neglect caused 1 of my birds to die prematurely! My dog pisses everywhere! I don't care! I'm a piece of shit! Don't believe me? Check my post history in Pet Island!
Whats a good moveset for a scizor? Or do I want a megasci??? I got a neat scyther off of wondertrade and after a day of breeding, got myself a pretty perfect? 31 in everything except special attack adamant tech scizor.. still level 1 and havent ev trained it, but its got wacuum wave, bullet punch, feint, and night slash on it. I dont know if those moves are special, it learned bp and feint when i traded it today, but my bfs scisor didnt get the option to learn those moves???

SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!

After a bit of training, Shinobi is ready to kick rear end.


I'm not quite sure if that'll be his final moveset. I may want to put Night Slash on there. Probably get an Expert Belt attached as well.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I can't believe it actually worked! It took like 400 eggs but I got myself a shiny Pinsir! It has max everything but SpDef/Spat too, so it's nearly perfect. Can't wait to train her up and then unleash the blue menace.

...Pinsir is kind of terrifying in Amie though. The generic happy eyes look really weird and the way the teeth move is just...eugh :gonk:

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Malalol posted:

Whats a good moveset for a scizor? Or do I want a megasci??? I got a neat scyther off of wondertrade and after a day of breeding, got myself a pretty perfect? 31 in everything except special attack adamant tech scizor.. still level 1 and havent ev trained it, but its got wacuum wave, bullet punch, feint, and night slash on it. I dont know if those moves are special, it learned bp and feint when i traded it today, but my bfs scisor didnt get the option to learn those moves???

I'm using

Scizor @ Scizorite
Adamant, Technician
252 HP 40 Atk 216 SpD

Bullet Punch
X-Scissor (no Bug Bite yet)
Swords Dance
Roost

It's a singles set though, designed to sweep off of dual screens.

There's some choice band sets and stuff too but without superpower they're a lot worse.

And yeah for doubles switching Roost for Protect or Brick Break is a pretty good idea.

Zoness fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Nov 14, 2013

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster
I think I'm gonna throw an Everstone on my Espurr. Has no real use as a Meowstic, but is so drat cute.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Malalol posted:

Whats a good moveset for a scizor? Or do I want a megasci??? I got a neat scyther off of wondertrade and after a day of breeding, got myself a pretty perfect? 31 in everything except special attack adamant tech scizor.. still level 1 and havent ev trained it, but its got wacuum wave, bullet punch, feint, and night slash on it. I dont know if those moves are special, it learned bp and feint when i traded it today, but my bfs scisor didnt get the option to learn those moves???

Bullet Punch
X-scissor
Brick Break
Sword's Dance

If you want to use mega-scizor

Bullet Punch
U-turn
Brick Break
Pursuit

If you want to use normal scizor with a Choice Band

The first set can be used with a life orb or a lum berry if you don't want to go mega, it's pretty flexible item-wise.

The second requires a choice band though.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes
Hey, Kurieg, are you there? Do you think you could go online anytime soon so I can get those Tyrouges from your safari?

Khagan
Aug 8, 2012

Words cannot describe just how terrible Vietnamese are.

Txn posted:

Any advice for someone who never got into competitive battling until now?
This is the team I'm currently using for Rotation Battles:

TeamTalk

Have you considered running a Lum Berry on your Trevenant for..

Trevenant (Lum Berry)
Ability: Harvest
Nature: Impish
- Substitute
- Will-O-Wisp
- Curse
- Rest

88 Hp / 252 Def / 168 SPdef

Consider a rapid spinner if you absolutely must run Zard-Y. Probably a Forretress, Donphan and Blastoise (in that order) instead of Escavalier.

SereneCrimson posted:

I'm not quite sure if that'll be his final moveset. I may want to put Night Slash on there. Probably get an Expert Belt attached as well.

Would be awesome if he had HP Fire then you could run Hydro Pump or Surf / Grass Knot / Ice Beam / HP Fire for amazing coverage off of one mon.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

Khagan posted:

Have you considered running a Lum Berry on your Trevenant for..

Trevenant (Lum Berry)
Ability: Harvest
Nature: Impish
- Substitute
- Will-O-Wisp
- Curse
- Rest

88 Hp / 252 Def / 168 SPdef

What happens if you get taunted on your rest turn and your lum berry is harvested while you're taunted?

Cuz I'd probably drop curse for Horn Leech.

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!

Zoness posted:

What happens if you get taunted on your rest turn and your lum berry is harvested while you're taunted?

Cuz I'd probably drop curse for Horn Leech.

Taunt prevents the Rest from ever happening. I assume this also prevents the Lum Berry from getting consumed.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer

canoshiz posted:

Taunt prevents the Rest from ever happening. I assume this also prevents the Lum Berry from getting consumed.

Good point, yeah, I'd run Chesto Berry instead of Lum Berry then.


vvv T-bolt, for Tyraniboah :getin:

Zoness fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Nov 14, 2013

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So how do one-use items work when online battling? They don't just up and vanish forever after the fight, right? Stuff like a Flung Iron Ball or Air Balloon.

On that note, what do you think's better for a "Wait, what?" move on TTar? Aerial Ace or Fling? I have been hit by a Flung Iron Ball. I had never seen anything use that prior, and it caught me off guard as hell. Aerial Ace because... fuckin' why does Tyranitar have Aerial Ace?!

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

canoshiz posted:

Taunt prevents the Rest from ever happening. I assume this also prevents the Lum Berry from getting consumed.

Does Taunt still block moves that you selected before you were Taunted?

Either way if you outspeed you still use Rest and use the Lum Berry, but I suppose with that build outspeeding is unlikely.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

ChibiSoma posted:

So how do one-use items work when online battling? They don't just up and vanish forever after the fight, right? Stuff like a Flung Iron Ball or Air Balloon.

On that note, what do you think's better for a "Wait, what?" move on TTar? Aerial Ace or Fling? I have been hit by a Flung Iron Ball. I had never seen anything use that prior, and it caught me off guard as hell. Aerial Ace because... fuckin' why does Tyranitar have Aerial Ace?!

One-use items regenerate after each pvp/Battle Maison/Battle Institute(maybe?) battle. As for Tyranitar, Aerial Ace might be useful for any fighting types that come his way. :v:

Khagan
Aug 8, 2012

Words cannot describe just how terrible Vietnamese are.

Zoness posted:

What happens if you get taunted on your rest turn and your lum berry is harvested while you're taunted?

Cuz I'd probably drop curse for Horn Leech.

This Trevenant that I run on Showdown has only ever been taunted once. Most peeps there prefer to status particularly on their Smeargle and Clefki, the latter of which is annoying especially if it has Swagger cause gently caress confusion.

Also this is the team I'm testing on Showdown atm...

Trevenant @ Lum Berry
Ability: Harvest
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Def / 168 SDef
Impish Nature
- Rest
- Curse
- Substitute
- Will-O-Wisp

Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Rapid Spin
- Volt Switch
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Swords Dance
- Substitute

Rotom-Heat @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Overheat
- Volt Switch
- Thunder Wave
- Pain Split

Clefable @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Bounce
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute

I'm considering changing the moving the Leftovers from Forretress to Clefable so I can put Custap Berry on the former.

Khagan fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Nov 14, 2013

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

ChaosArgate posted:

One-use items regenerate after each pvp/Battle Maison/Battle Institute(maybe?) battle. As for Tyranitar, Aerial Ace might be useful for any fighting types that come his way. :v:

I believe there are some items that disappear. I can't remember the names, but I know one is the "Policy" one.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
Where can I get a second Lucky Egg?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

BearDrivingTruck posted:

Hey, Kurieg, are you there? Do you think you could go online anytime soon so I can get those Tyrouges from your safari?

Yeah sorry, I was busy after work. I'm online now.

Strange Quark
Oct 15, 2012

I Failed At Anime 2022

Meat Recital posted:

Where can I get a second Lucky Egg?

Friend Safari. Wild Chansey have a 5% chance of holding one.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

ChibiSoma posted:

So how do one-use items work when online battling? They don't just up and vanish forever after the fight, right? Stuff like a Flung Iron Ball or Air Balloon.

On that note, what do you think's better for a "Wait, what?" move on TTar? Aerial Ace or Fling? I have been hit by a Flung Iron Ball. I had never seen anything use that prior, and it caught me off guard as hell. Aerial Ace because... fuckin' why does Tyranitar have Aerial Ace?!

If you want to catch people off guard with Tyranitar, build him as a special attacker. His attack stat is better, but he has a surprisingly good special move pool and his spat stat is workable. The advantage here is that nobody expects special tyranitar. I've fought it a few times onlinr and it has hosed me up hard because I was prepared to counter his physical attacks, not the special ones.

Gensuki
Sep 2, 2011

noirstronaut posted:

Are the three you're talking about the ones that haven't been officially announced yet, but the hacker guy announced them?

Yes.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster
I have a question about this here Friend Safari. If someone were to beat the game on one cartridge, pass the cartridge to someone else, would their third FS Poke be visible to that consoles friend-list?

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


noirstronaut posted:

I have a question about this here Friend Safari. If someone were to beat the game on one cartridge, pass the cartridge to someone else, would their third FS Poke be visible to that consoles friend-list?

It's based on your friend code, not what game you have.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

Emong posted:

It's based on your friend code, not what game you have.

Right, so if someone borrowed my game, they could find out what the third Poke in their FS is early per-se, right?

Mr. Whale
Apr 9, 2009

Khagan posted:

This Trevenant that I run on Showdown has only ever been taunted once. Most peeps there prefer to status particularly on their Smeargle and Clefki, the latter of which is annoying especially if it has Swagger cause gently caress confusion.

Also this is the team I'm testing on Showdown atm...


I'm considering changing the moving the Leftovers from Forretress to Clefable so I can put Custap Berry on the former.

I would swap either twave or pain split on rotom for trick. It's scary being locked into a move you can be setup on. Like how many times has scarfed pain split helped you so far?

If you're playing on showdown you may as well max out forretress' speed iv. Gotta outrun those gyro ball forretress.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Does a Choice Scarf ALWAYS insure you go first? Can un-Scarfed Pokemon go before Scarfed ones, I.e., through stat boosts etc.

razorrozar
Feb 21, 2012

by Cyrano4747

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Does a Choice Scarf ALWAYS insure you go first? Can un-Scarfed Pokemon go before Scarfed ones, I.e., through stat boosts etc.

I'm pretty sure it just boosts your speed. If you put it on a low-speed Pokemon and you're fighting a high-speed one, you'll probably still go second.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Does a Choice Scarf ALWAYS insure you go first? Can un-Scarfed Pokemon go before Scarfed ones, I.e., through stat boosts etc.

Yes, all it does is increase your speed stat by 50%, which is basically an extra 1 stage boost.

You could scarf your Ferrothorn (why would you do this) and he'd still probably go last.

HoneyBoy
Oct 12, 2012

get murked son

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Does a Choice Scarf ALWAYS insure you go first? Can un-Scarfed Pokemon go before Scarfed ones, I.e., through stat boosts etc.

Nope, like all Choice items it just gives you a 50% boost to that stat. So anything faster than your Scarfed Pokemon + 50% will still outspeed.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Does a Choice Scarf ALWAYS insure you go first? Can un-Scarfed Pokemon go before Scarfed ones, I.e., through stat boosts etc.

Absolutely, but you gotta watch out for those choice band/spec users because they will always one-shot you unless you can ko them first.

e: or you have sturdy/focus sash, that's important.

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!
The item that gives you a chance to go first no matter what is Quick Claw. Obviously, this is not reliable in the slightest, but if you feel like rolling the dice every time you make a move, it's the item for you...

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Is it worth using Gyro Ball on a Relaxed Ferrothorn if it has perfect speed IVs?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Is it worth using Gyro Ball on a Relaxed Ferrothorn if it has perfect speed IVs?
Ferrothorn is still suitably slow that, as unless you're using it against something else that's also slow (which you shouldn't anyways), it won't make a huge difference. I mean, ideally, you want a low speed, but if you're mostly going to be using it against Fairies, etc., you'll probably be getting max BP either way.

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster
I posted this in the trading thread, but I know some of you would have no reason to enter there unless looking for a trade soooo

Does anyone have an Electabuzz + Galvantula Safari? That lil Pikachu mouse thing in the first slot would be cool too, but not really necessary.

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Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


noirstronaut posted:

I posted this in the trading thread, but I know some of you would have no reason to enter there unless looking for a trade soooo

Does anyone have an Electabuzz + Galvantula Safari? That lil Pikachu mouse thing in the first slot would be cool too, but not really necessary.

I've got Electabuzz (and Luxio and Electrode), but not Galvantula.

Emong fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Nov 14, 2013

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