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It's too bad the Trustees' dereliction of duty, and the NCAA's dishonesty, made it necessary to promote the wins that were once taken as a basic matter of fact. Your argument is with the Trustees, and not with the alumni.

The Trustees started the moral equivalent of a civil war at Penn State, chose to perpetuate it despite good faith efforts at reconciliation, and are now willfully harming the University by interfering with the lawsuit against the NCAA. (The lawsuit's success would restore the University's good name, $60 million of its money, and maybe punitive damages against the NCAA.) They started it, they continued it, but we will finish it. We will expose the NCAA and Freeh Group for what they are, vote out the Trustees, and compel others to resign (as apparently happened to Garban and Surma).

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The incompetent Trustees, along with Louis Freeh's and the NCAA's dishonesty, are what devalued your PSU degree. You cannot get rid of cancer by wishing it away. You have to cut it out (we have excised three alumni Trustees, and another did not run for reelection), and/or burn it out with radiation and chemotherapy (Garban and Surma apparently became uncomfortable enough to leave "voluntarily," and I think Kenneth "people that look like you" Frazier will be next). Freeh and the NCAA also are part of the cancer. The alumni are the oncologists.

The BOT is admittedly not evil, but cowardice and incompetence, followed by willful refusal to perform its duty to assess the Freeh Report, make it every bit as bad as if it were evil.

GET OFF MY LAWN posted:

I'm completely sick of all these "Look at me! I matter!" uniforms.

I don't give a rat's fart what a bunch of 19 and 20 year old kids think. These are the same idiots that are listening to (some) lovely music and think McDonald's makes a good burger. They can barely dress themselves. So why do I want them having any say in what MY loving SCHOOL wears on the field?

Sane Person posted:

Since the dawn of Man, no older generation has ever been satisfied with the culture of the younger generation. I'm sure when you were younger older people were "completely sick" of your taste in music and style of dress. Times change.

GET OFF MY LAWN posted:

Maybe but a classic look still works any time. Dressing like poo poo makes you look like an idiot. When I was in high school and college people were wearing some stupid rear end poo poo. Stuff like Z. Cavaricci or Girbaud. I didn't do it. I wore regular khakis and button down oxfords. The same things I wear to work today, 25 years later. And it was the same thing that normal kids wore when my parents were in college in the mid 60s.

sportsgenius86 posted:

the best part is that they're probably spending all of this money to put it up somewhere surrounded by people who already believe that dumb poo poo anyway

Thermos H Christ posted:

OK I find this exchange about alternate/contemporary uniform styles pretty hilarious.

Chichevache posted:

Caste Football is missing a retard.

Neil Armbong posted:

Is there a WASP football forum?

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Yeah, it's Caste Football

ZenVulgarity posted:

And lo, Neil Armbong was never heard from again, for he was one of the chosen to leave this Sodom, and enjoyed everlasting bliss of writing about how lazy black players are, and no longer would he fear putting on his white pride avatar and signature. He was home.

Neil Armbong posted:

Hahaha. I was wondering if there was maybe a place with more subtle racism for white people with 10 foot poles up their asses to lament how great the 40s were for them.

Thermos H Christ posted:

OK I find this exchange about alternate/contemporary uniform styles pretty hilarious.

Mel Mudkiper posted:

And there is now a pledge drive going hoping to make enough money to keep it up indefinitely

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Is it time the Skins move on from RG3?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...calls-out-rg3/

Washington Post called out RG3. And it was about time someone did..

Compared to how Luck and Russell Wilson are playing this year.. is it safe to say that RG3 may just never be an elite QB? We all are making up excuses but could that just be the sad truth..?

Chichevache posted:

Back in the good old days Golden Tate wouldn't have been able to celebratestep foot on the field.

P h i N s A N i T y posted:

Something tells me that Martin is a homosexual. I think they call that gaydar, but it fits in with this mysterious drama. It was supposedly a cafeteria prank that set Martin off..... Fruitcake, anyone ? Seriously though I'm starting to think/hope that's what this is about.

NyPhinfan posted:

Finally someone said it. Just pure speculation but it's been hinted at since Day one and throughout this fiasco. Just watch how quickly this thing gets used and made an agenda about. First thing that popped into my head. Reason why it's been kept hush hush and dealt with pillow hands.

Vertical Limit posted:

Never thought of that angle but now that you brought it up, I think he is..

Catfish Noodlin posted:

So the Richie Incognito/Jonathan Martin thing has resulted in some absolute gems from Miami Dolphins message boards:

Henchman of Santa posted:

Why do I want kids who attend MY loving SCHOOL have any say in what MY loving SCHOOL wears????

pillsburysoldier posted:

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Rap posted:

How do you arrive at "a ski mask and possibly a motorcycle helmet" tho??

PlanB posted:

When they grow up believing they are a victim from birth;
Martin's father, Gus Martin, is a Harvard University graduate and a professor of criminal justice administration at California State University, Dominguez Hills.[1] Martin's grandfather, also a Harvard alumnus, was a professor in international development.[2] Martin's maternal great grandfather was a Harvard student in the 1920s, one of a dozen African-American students there.[3]
No way they were not going to the media with this and turn this whole thing into something its not. Incognito is screwed blue and Tattooed. He messed with the wrong ****er to coin a phrase. (I hate that word as much as anyone) . But this is a grown 340 pound man running home to mama and papa. A Professional NFL player! God I hate the media for becoming a tool to help feed this victimization mentality. Ritchie is an *******. We all know that. But I truly believe all texts ,emails were taken out of context. Ritchie will be served on a platter to feed this B.S. and J. Martin, a boy among men will get a hefty settlement for being a victim. Something he was taught to be from birth.

vt_dolfan posted:

Im not saying this is the only reason, but I believe it has significance.

The NFL has been marketing directly to younger women. And there is a significant reason as to why they are doing this. These are the younger women who will most likely be having babies within the next 5-10 years. As the kids grow, with all of the PR hit the league has taken regarding safety in football, if a mother feels the game is unsafe, she will be less likely to allow her son to play the game. This was discussed in pretty long length at the beginning of the week on the Colin Cowherd show.



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‘Softer’ NFL Turns To Merchandising, Women To Expand Fan Base

P h i N s A N i T y posted:

Post altered by mod, I'm not going to be bullied by mods being bullied.

rear end in a top hat Texans Fan posted:

Yes, the whole situation is really very silly isn't it. But I won't be at all surprised if we see a piece on the nightly national news soon suggesting there should be sensitivity training for NFL players re their interactions with both opponents and teammates. The NFL is definitely in full-blown wussification mode
and we are headed full speed towards touch football.

Same rear end in a top hat Texans Fan posted:

I'm gonna have to do this Jen, I don't want to, but I must to make my point.
I'm guessing you've never played football ? OK, well I have, both in high school and in college, though I assure my collegiate football experience was very unremarkable and the scholastic end of it not much better. But while playing in HS and college, I can't tell you how many incidents I've seen of bullying, varying degrees to be sure. And actually a couple of them were pretty flagrant, pretty nasty situations in other words. It's part of the territory, it's a very, very physical sport played by some really tough guys, certainly at the NFL level. And it's also tough mentally and psychologically because much of it is about being the most macho person in the contest, winning whichever mano-a-mano contest a player might be involved in that's always playing out on the field be it CB vs WR, OT vs edge-rusher, OC vs NT, TE vs LB, etc. In other words, a guy has to have a certain mentality or psyche along with athletic talent, or he's not got what it takes for serious football, certainly not pro ball. And seminars or sensitive training or whatever aren't gonna correct the situation, not for the bully or his victim. Best solution would be to change occupations to office work, or something, anything that's civilized because pro football isn't.

A Different rear end in a top hat Texans Fan posted:

This is true

And be cut before the start of next season if the Lawyers will let the Dolphins cut him. Martin has been soft and played terrible this yr. He was being counted on to be the Dolphins LT for the next 10 yrs. He couldn't handle those responsibilities and was weak minded.

This story gets the fans mind off of his terrible play and focuses on his feelings, which was his goal in all of this. Incognito was trying to toughen Martin up and help the team. Did he go too far and use despicable behavior? Yes.

But apparently most of the Dolphins OL mates agrred with Incognito and backed him up. The Dolphins coaches must have agreed with Incognito also because they didn't stop it. This means that Martin wont be long for Miami.

Martin's biggest knock coming out of college was that he wasn't physical enough. Sounds like Martin will be Gary's RT of the future. I'm sure he will fit in quite well with Newton.

BTW, this is why it will be a long time before an openly gay player will be welcomed on a team. Teams look to avoid stuff like this like the plague. If you were to ask Ireland if he's glad that he drafted Martin or if he wishes he would've passed on Martin and Ireland was honest, I garuntee you Martin wouldn't be a Dolphin today.

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This is such a textbook way of getting out of football.The guy has lawyers in his family and the way its all worded by his lawyer is such a blatant way of cowardly getting out of his contractual duties. The guy is just using this stuff because he probably doesn't want to play football anymore.

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I literally hear the word daily. It's no longer synonymous with "hate" as it once was 20, 30, 60 years ago. For a lack of better term, it's almost used as a term of endearment these days. Granted, some do use it with offensive intentions but that's become the exception and is no longer the rule.

I hear the "B-word" dropped daily too, but I don't assume everyone using it is sexist.

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No NFL insider is accusing Incognito of being a racist. Not even the guys who hate him. Why are you? Oh right, because you're a bunch of morons and think anyone who uses a racial slur is a racist.

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Anyone else find it a tad bit coincidental that Martin lost his starting LT spot to Bryant McKinnie just a few days before dropping this "bomb" ?? Also, Brian Hartline was quoting as saying that earlier in the season Martin was passing around his phone with the infamous voice mail on it, laughing and sharing it with everyone...

More and more, this is looking like one of those situations where someone is unhappy they aren't getting their way and trying to make everyone else just as miserable. I mean, the only one speaking on behalf of Martin is his lawyer....what does that tell you ?? He's protecting lies.

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I hear the "B-word" dropped daily too, but I don't assume everyone using it is sexist.

XxGirlKisserxX posted:

Actually probably a safe assumption.

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No NFL insider is accusing Incognito of being a racist. Not even the guys who hate him. Why are you? Oh right, because you're a bunch of morons and think anyone who uses a racial slur is a racist.

Ribsauce posted:

Every time I go to another message board I realize how great the signature policy is here.

Ribsauce posted:

Every time I go to another message board I realize how great the signature policy is here.

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This is such a load of bs... winston and fsu will not be phased.. ESPN they need to get their facts straight. I also think this goes to show how much of a joke our Judaical system is. And in almost every case the victim was a drunk girl who made regrettable decisions and it is her fault I do not feel bad one bit, but I know Jameis had nothing to with this

il serpente cosmico posted:

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