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Soulcleaver posted:In Jesus's situation I would have just pulled the trigger and drat the consequences. That evil gently caress needs to die. Yeah, maybe someone else would take over his little fiefdom, but more likely they'd collapse without Negan's charisma and psychopathy to keep them in line. Yeah, I'm with you. That guy is making the zombie apocalypse a mad bummer. I doubt his gang is capable of stopping one of those million man hordes, so his brutal dictatorship is really for poo poo.
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Caufman posted:Yeah, I'm with you. That guy is making the zombie apocalypse a mad bummer. Unspoiled, general character discussion: Negan's "government" isn't replicable. It's a cult of personality. The Governor's wasn't, really--his people gathered around the title he gave himself and the veneer of civilization and control he and it provided. But the Governor himself was kind of conflicted/divided/fragmenting and not all that personally impressive. Negan, though, is simply an incredibly overwhelming personality at the top of a large pyramid. People gather to him because his group is the strongest and better to join the strong than the weak. And he himself is pretty smart, tactically and so on, though he hides it. But yeah. His system won't build, it'll just pillage, and you can't expand that way forever. So he'll never really help people/humanity survive in the new world--the threat is that he'll destroy those who could. This was a good issue. spoilers #114: Jesus seemed to say he didn't kill Negan because if he had, Negan's group would have started fighting immediately, and Hilltop would have lost that fight. They were outgunned and outnumbered. Better to wait and have a chance. Jesus's speech to Rick--well, I think it made me feel a bit better about Rick. I had never really turned against him, but if someone like Jesus (aka Paul) put that much value on what Rick does, that counts for something. And looking back, I do think Rick's earned it.
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Sep 12, 2013 18:40
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Sep 12, 2013 18:48
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This isn't TV IV, we don't use spoilers on Wednesday. I am eagerly anticipating this war, doubly so if they really are going to stick to an expedited shipping schedule.
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Anyone else see Ezekiel as a major wild card in this whole thing? I think the coalition of the willing will triumph over Negan, only to fracture due to internal squabbling.
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Sep 16, 2013 16:42
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Clearly Jesus will become Judas and stab Rick in the back!
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threeagainstfour posted:Anyone else see Ezekiel as a major wild card in this whole thing? I think the coalition of the willing will triumph over Negan, only to fracture due to internal squabbling. Yeah. Ezekial's probably smart and a good dude--but he and Rick are on SUCH different wavelengths.
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Sep 16, 2013 18:55
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I just want to know why the body count for named characters was 0. Corpse count has been too low lately!
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The Walking Dead 100 Project TPB came out today. Didn't know that was going to be collected. Proceeds go to a good cause and they claim that it won't be reprinted. http://www.heroinitiative.org/spage.asp?p=107&ti=the+walking+dead+100+project
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Sep 25, 2013 21:54
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Issue 115 out. Are they still on Namek? I want a fight to the death between Rick and Negan already. Or at least for Negan to get murdered in a hilarious karmic fashion.
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Studio posted:I just want to know why the body count for named characters was 0. Corpse count has been too low lately! I assume there is going to be a huge culling in the coming month. They are doing a 12 part storyline and it looks like the end of the Negan saga
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Oct 30, 2013 04:36
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Anyone else rooting for Negan? Good god, I love that loving guy and his big swinging dickcopters.
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Holy poo poo this would be the best way to end Rick as the main character. No way it'll happen, but watching Rick's group assimilated into the Saviors would make for great comics.
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I want to see to rick killed in this and avenged by a ragtag team of Carl, michonne + tiger + ezkiel, and Andrea. Maybe Carl just rides the tiger.
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goodfuldead posted:I want to see to rick killed in this and avenged by a ragtag team of Carl, michonne + tiger + ezkiel, and Andrea. Maybe Carl just rides the tiger. You can see his stripes, but you know he's clean
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116 They use a Z horde to siege the factory. I don't understand why they needed an occupied vehicle to knock down the fence (some other method?) and how Rick, assuming himself as some expert on Negan's deprived mind, reasons that he alone is invulnerable to torture and murder inside the factory.
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The wording is ambiguous but I figured Rick was going to sacrifice his life to bring in as many zombies in as possible. I don't get what Holly was trying to do, either.
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I'd guess it was to make sure everything went as planned, if the unmanned truck had hit a pothole and swerved into a barricade instead then the huge mob of zombies surrounding Negan's camp would likely screw up whatever else they're going to do.
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I like the fake out that this was going to be a siege, when it was really just a huge walker baiting operation. And I love that Negan figured that out immediately. I can't remember who Holly is, but I enjoy that I really don't know what's going to happen to her. Negan is endearingly inconsistent.
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moths posted:
Shes the lady Abraham left Rosita for.
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Huh, did he draw her substantially younger this issue?
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Negan's line about having your making GBS threads pants on was probably one of the best lines in the series ever. I really like Negan and am gonna miss him when they finally kill him off (you know it will happen).
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syndex posted:Negan's line about having your making GBS threads pants on was probably one of the best lines in the series ever. I really like Negan and am gonna miss him when they finally kill him off (you know it will happen). The Governor still lives! Negan can escape! Then in issue 500 they'll team up and destroy The United States of Rick in an epic war that ends the series.
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Nov 14, 2013 23:00
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The Governor is dead bro.
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TV Governor.
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Honestly at this point I wish the would all die. Comic cast and TV cast alike.
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Brain Aged posted:Honestly at this point I wish the would all die. Comic cast and TV cast alike. Then why you reading the comics and watching the show, guy?
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Nov 15, 2013 14:21
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I just told you. I'm waiting for them to all die.
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In retrospect I think that the best part of graphic novels is when Herschel and Rick (or was it Herschel and his son?) are in the prison yard farming and they have a theological discussion about whether the zombies prove that god doesn't exist and Herschel has this cool old testament speech about how these could be the seven years of tribulations and the rising of the dead that precede the latter days as prophesied in Ezekiel. That was cool. Anyone remember what issue that was from?
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It was Herschel and his son. Kirkman has had a few characters debate the theological and philosophical questions the zombies pose to them. Gabriel and Eugene have a memorable one too. Honestly, the main thing that keeps me coming back to this comic is the characters. What a lot of zombie fiction doesn't get, is that the characters and how they react and change in the face of the new world is the interesting part, not "zombies are cool, right?". Kirkman has given us some really memorable characters over the course of the series - especially Rick. The Governor was a bit of a two dimensional villain in the comics - he was a memorable character, but not half as interesting as Negan is.
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OldMemes posted:The Governor was a bit of a two dimensional villain in the comics - he was a memorable character, but not half as interesting as Negan is. It didn't help that he looked like a pedophile garbage man or something. The bits with his daughter were interesting, though. And he basically served to job to Michonne.
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FilthyImp posted:It didn't help that he looked like a pedophile garbage man or something. The bits with his daughter were interesting, though. And he basically served to job to Michonne. I will say that I am glad that the TV Governor did not do what the comic one did. That was completely unnecessary
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OldMemes posted:
I kind of hope they never try to incorporate Negan into the TV show. They would gently caress him up big time.
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Count me in the camp that says I want Negan to win this war and The Walking Dead turns into The Negan show.
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I was trying to explain Negan to a friend who watches the show, and he was like "I hope they get Eli Roth" and I couldn't disagree. I'm really enjoying the larger-than-life survivors at this point. Negan and not-George Clinton would probably have gotten the same eyeroll reception Michonne did, but the world keeps getting stranger and it makes for a more interesting world. I really don't know how this arc is going to end. I've got a hunch Jesus is going to end up in charge of the Saviors in a not especially poetic twist, though.
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moths posted:I was trying to explain Negan to a friend who watches the show, and he was like "I hope they get Eli Roth" and I couldn't disagree. not-George Clinton is doomed since he is sleeping with michonne. I assume its going to end with all three communities in ruins and Rick is going to go back on his road tour of destruction.
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moths posted:I was trying to explain Negan to a friend who watches the show, and he was like "I hope they get Eli Roth" and I couldn't disagree. Oh that would be awesome.
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If they follow the comic still we have a long time until we see Negan on the show, if we ever do at all. My memory starts getting foggy after the prison story when it comes to these books.
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Brain Aged posted:If they follow the comic still we have a long time until we see Negan on the show, if we ever do at all. It would be 50 issues. There is still the cannibals, trip to DC, and Hilltop and Rick taking control of it.
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