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For reference's sake, here's the newly revamped Amanda Waller from DC's latest reboot.  Goddamn do I hate their redesigns. I'm just happy that Arrow seems to have retained her personality, if not her looks. Narcissus1916 fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Are there any women in comics that do not have massive tits?
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Nov 14, 2013 22:48
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ded posted:Are there any women in comics that do not have massive tits? Not many, just as there are few men who are not good looking.
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Nov 14, 2013 22:49
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Narcissus1916 posted:For reference's sake, here's the newly revamped Amanda Waller from DC's latest reboot. Is Kerry Washington playing Amanda Waller?
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Nov 14, 2013 23:29
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It's worse that comic fans only care about how fat she is, by the way.
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Nov 14, 2013 23:29
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Aphrodite posted:It's worse that comic fans only care about how fat she is, by the way. It's not about how fat she is, it's just that she is being whitewashed completely away from the original for the sake of whatever. It's pretty rare to see a powerful, black, non-sexkitten woman in a role these days, especially a show like this. Plus, it adds to a character when you have a woman who literally has no sort of edge up in a boy's world beyond her dogged determination and expertise to fall back on. Comic included. Even the woman who had Russian sex-time with Ollie, who was complaining about how hard it is being a woman in a man's world, could at least screw him in order to (potentially) try and manipulate him. Maybe it's just jumping from one stereotype of a Big Black Woman to a sexy black woman in power or whatever, but, you know.  At least she wasn't flirting with Diggle. Drifter fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Nov 14, 2013 23:36
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ded posted:Are there any women in comics that do not have massive tits?
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XboxPants posted:How's Ollie's Russian? As someone who knows almost nothing about the language it sounds cool to me, but I'm sure it's far from perfect. Is it at least, like, not terrible? Glau supposedly has a good Russian accent, though it doesn't look like they're giving her a lot of chance to use it. Eddain posted:Very curious about his threat during the attempted double-cross, maybe he name-dropped someone big in the Russian mob (or maybe he has some fame in the mob)? Nah - at least, that's not what it sounded like. He started it off saying something that sounded a whole lot like, "Yesli ti zastrelish moyevo druga..." - which means "if you shoot my friend" - and then turned somewhat incomprehensible but the gist I got was basically "you will all die."
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Nov 15, 2013 00:01
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Diggle assumed H.I.V.E was an acronym because he's ex-military. 
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Nov 15, 2013 00:04
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e: ^^^ Diggle knew it was an acronym because all the characters are really speaking in comic book speech bubbles. So when he said, "I only know the alias - it was Hive," what he really said and what Diggle actually heard was, "I only know the alias - H.I.V.E."ded posted:Are there any women in comics that do not have massive tits? Uh, no. It is a biological fact that when women work out and train in martial arts, their tits go through a second round of puberty.
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Nov 15, 2013 00:15
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Habibi posted:e: ^^^ Diggle knew it was an acronym because all the characters are really speaking in comic book speech bubbles. So when he said, "I only know the alias - it was Hive," what he really said and what Diggle actually heard was, "I only know the alias - H.I.V.E." This is hilarious. When I do my next rewatch I am going to be imagining visible speech bubbles during every island angst scene.
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Nov 15, 2013 00:38
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If it's not a name from Greek mythology, it's an acronym, duh. (Or both.)
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Nov 15, 2013 00:42
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It should have cut to a Bing screen of "You have searched for 'H.I.V.E'. Did you mean 'Hive'?"
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Nov 15, 2013 01:13
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jscolon2.0 posted:It should have cut to a Bing screen of "You have searched for 'H.I.V.E'. Did you mean 'Hive'?" Just want I want in a search engine. 
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The Felicity/Oliver jealousy angle isn't something I'm looking forward to. More Oliver/Isabella I am though. It seems like a great first look into Glau's character, and might end better than their failed shot at sticking Oliver with Huntress. At least in the acting department. And anything that keeps Caity Lotz on screen works for me. Even if its knife after knife in Oliver's back. DeclaredYuppie posted:I read the Isabel stuff this episode as she's trying to manipulate Ollie for whatever nefarious reasons are out there. I figure she knows something's up with Ollie and while she knows he's not simply a dumb playboy, she's not quite sure yet what he really is. I'm going to take the opinion that she was following the 'what happens in Russia stays in Russia' mantra herself. People finding out she had a quickie with her business partner in Russia after having a few drinks with him wouldn't look good at the next board meeting. She's already let on that she knows something is up, just not the specifics of the something. I hope it stays that way for a bit so we can find out more about her before they flip the ally/villain switch.
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Nov 15, 2013 04:17
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DeclaredYuppie posted:No for a second I thought that too and was like "drat that's a way to slip that drama into the show." Hah, I thought it too - It's hilarious in retrospect - he sleeps with his ex-wife and then googles info about HIV, like he's afraid of STDs.
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Nov 15, 2013 04:49
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Wolpertinger posted:Hah, I thought it too - It's hilarious in retrospect - he sleeps with his ex-wife and then googles info about HIV, like he's afraid of STDs. This is really loving funny.  Show is still firing on all cylinders for me. I don't even feel like the brief felicity drama was manufactured like I normally would. They've laid the groundwork pretty solidly that she is crushing super hard. The one moment where I briefly was annoyed was when Roy wasn't told the reason for the breakup, but as usual, it resolved/paid off super fast.
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Nov 15, 2013 05:10
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The Lord Bude posted:They were wearing the exact same shoes though. I'm struggling with the idea that the show could show a shadowy figure, where the only thing you can see clearly is the distinctive shoes, and then focus on those exact same shoes again, only for it to be a coincidence. I think it's her.
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Nov 15, 2013 05:27
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bbf2 posted:Awesome show as always, but I really don't like the fact that they're starting to push this Oliver/Felicity relationship thing in the open and are actually going to make it a plot point now. It was fine when it was going on in the background, but the fact that its now a plot point makes me uneasy. It's really disingenuous to say she got a larger part solely because of fan reaction. Amell himself said that after his first shoot with her he called the producers to tell them how much fun the scene was and how much chemistry there was there. It was really obvious to everyone involved that her and her character would fit well into the show and she has. It's not like fans are inventing something that's not there, no one would ship Oliver/Felicity if their actors didn't have that chemistry that got her on the show. Edit: Spelling. Epi Lepi fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 06:04
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ded posted:Are there any women in comics that do not have massive tits? I remembered one! Aunt May. 
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Nov 15, 2013 06:15
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I like how they're introducing the ARGUS/HIVE/governmental superspy portion of the DCU through Diggle and the secret magic ninja assassins portion of the DCU through Sara and the island.
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Nov 15, 2013 06:22
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Habibi posted:I remembered one! Aunt May. Also the way they are going with Diggle and Deadshot it seems that only one will survive. Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 06:34
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bobkatt013 posted:You forgot Trouble Stop posting comic panels that have nothing to do with Arrow.
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Nov 15, 2013 06:37
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I can't be the only one who saw the Felicity/Ollie thing coming from about the 3rd time she showed up on screen. It's a CW show, she's hot, he's hot, they have on-screen chemistry. Come on.
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Nov 15, 2013 06:50
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I had no problem with the Ollie/Felicity stuff. It seemed to show that Ollie was aware that Felicity has a crush but that he couldn't reciprocate. I get the feeling that he cares about her in a friend way not in a potential relationship way.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I can't be the only one who saw the Felicity/Ollie thing coming from about the 3rd time she showed up on screen. It's a CW show, she's hot, he's hot, they have on-screen chemistry. Come on. Yeah I don't get the sperging out over it. Felicity has been drooling over Oliver since her first episode, and Oliver will basically screw anything that (a) has a vagina and (b) hasn't failed his city, and (b) was optional in the case of the Huntress, so it was a foregone conclusion that there was going to be *something* going on, and if anything it's impressive how much restraint a CW show had before starting to thrust, heh, the two of them together. On top of that, it was the first time that Felicity made her feelings, if they could be called that, for Ollie explicit. She's been making eyes at him forever, we know she likes to watch him do one-handed pull-ups, and she is a Freudian slip machine around him, but the ultimate impression has - at least to me - always been one of attraction but not actual interest. Like he's so hot she acts like a teenager around him but that's sort of where it ends. So her reaction in this episode didn't strike me as some contrived CW drama ham-fistedly inserted into the show, but simply a revelation about the extent of Felicity's feelings toward Oliver, and one that very reasonably fits with what we've observed (or should have observed, unless you're blind) about her.
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Nov 15, 2013 06:59
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In one of Amell's Q&As a fan asked him if anything was going to develop between Oliver and Felicity and he basically said, "He's an attractive guy, she's an attractive girl, things happen."
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Nov 15, 2013 07:08
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Eddain posted:In one of Amell's Q&As a fan asked him if anything was going to develop between Oliver and Felicity and he basically said, "He's an attractive guy, she's an attractive girl, things happen." And at this point, isn't Felicity basically the only attractive woman Oliver has met that wasn't already dating / married to someone else and/or related to him whom he hasn't yet slept with? Things do happen.
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Nov 15, 2013 07:15
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Habibi posted:And at this point, isn't Felicity basically the only attractive woman Oliver has met that wasn't already dating / married to someone else and/or related to him whom he hasn't yet slept with? Things do happen. China White?
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Wolpertinger posted:Hah, I thought it too - It's hilarious in retrospect - he sleeps with his ex-wife and then googles info about HIV, like he's afraid of STDs. "Honey what was it you said you had?" *stares intensely at a Bing loading screen* "Oh Shi-" *arrow screech music plays out* Arrow is actually about the only vector for Windows product placement that doesn't instantly make me hate the product, which is funny considering how obvious they make it.
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Eddain posted:China White? She's married to the 
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jscolon2.0 posted:Nope, now that he has half a face, he's officially Deathstroke. This seems to keep coming up, and it really confuses me. Now granted I think the last time I actually paid attention to a comic with Deathstroke in it was the Perez/Wolfman NTT, but... since when does Slade have half a face? Oh, and as far as Miracle goes, I knew it was the pre-cursor to Venom, but I didn't know it was based on Miraclo, that's kind of cool. Thought the Isabel quickie was good. If it was a genuine thing that just happened because they sat down and had some drinks, even better. But if nothing else, it was a brilliant way to stagger the momentum of her growing suspicion and scrutiny, and buy himself some room to go pull Diggle out at the extraction point. TyrantWD posted:She seems to know that they are up to something, and that its best to just go with it and do some digging on her own than ask why Oliver, his assistant, and Diggle take jet off to Russia, never meet with their Moscow subsidiary, and then return with a strange woman, and a few cuts and bruises. It would amuse to endlessly if, after observing that this is what they did, she came to the conclusion that Oliver, his assistant, and his black driver aren't dodgy people doing dodgy things but are in fact the most awesome, impulsive people in the world.
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Wolvorine posted:This seems to keep coming up, and it really confuses me. Now granted I think the last time I actually paid attention to a comic with Deathstroke in it was the Perez/Wolfman NTT, but... since when does Slade have half a face? Slade has always had a face, his eye on the other hand. I'm tipping Ivo will find the Japanese super solider formula, Slade will be the test subject, face healed to a nice kiwi glow and he will become the Deathstroke we all know and love.
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Spergy as hell, I realise, but the in time period they're talking about (i.e. the late 30s / early 40s) the Japanese weren't using foreign loan words - the drug would have been called Kiseki, not mirakuru. I get it, it's a way to make a clever Hourman reference (possibly because of the TV show they are developing?) but still...
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DeclaredYuppie posted:Arrow is actually about the only vector for Windows product placement that doesn't instantly make me hate the product, which is funny considering how obvious they make it. I just find it refreshing to watch a show where everyone isn't using Apple products constantly.
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One note - Thin, young, sexy Amanda Waller had a recent appearance outside of the comics and Arrow, so yeah, it seems like the original design is not being used anymore.
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Wolvorine posted:This seems to keep coming up, and it really confuses me. Now granted I think the last time I actually paid attention to a comic with Deathstroke in it was the Perez/Wolfman NTT, but... since when does Slade have half a face? His mask is half and half, now he doesn't need the mask!
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DeclaredYuppie posted:"Honey what was it you said you had?" I made a dumb thing. Glad I wasn't alone though! 
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Am I the only one who thinks that Isabel might be working for Waller? The setup of Waller telling Diggle that they know what Oliver is doing and then having Isabel getting closer to him just seems suspicious to me. So does the fact that she kind of deflected answering the question of why she was so interested in Queen Consolidated. Also if that were the case it would open up Ollie and Felicity after all the fallout happened.
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dreffen posted:I made a dumb thing. Glad I wasn't alone though!  I can't stop laughing at this.
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