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abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


I was dead-set on getting one of the new iPads until this thread. A few guys mentioned that Safari was over-reloading pages or something. Then a few of you mentioned the limited amount of RAM. But now I'm feeling the urge to get one again. Have either of those issues proven to be wait-until-February-worthy issues?

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Abel Wingnut posted:

I was dead-set on getting one of the new iPads until this thread. A few guys mentioned that Safari was over-reloading pages or something. Then a few of you mentioned the limited amount of RAM. But now I'm feeling the urge to get one again. Have either of those issues proven to be wait-until-February-worthy issues?

One is probably a bug and the other one can be safely filed in the "who cares" category. If you want it, get it. If you don't like it just return it.

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
I haven't really had any problems with excessive reloading in Chrome. Apple should have given the Air 2GB of RAM, but 1GB is serviceable.

DarkJC
Jul 6, 2010
The iPad Air is awesome. If you want one, get one. No regrets here. I guess I just don't open a ton of tabs but I never really run into the reloading, and even when I do it's never frustrating.

SimpleCoax
Aug 7, 2003

TV is the thing this year.
Hair Elf

Feenix posted:

Not sure who (if anyone) cares, but my Switcheasy Canvas (Air) arrives today and I'd be happy to snap a thickness shot of it next to an iPad 3 in a Canvas and an iPad Mini in a Canvas.

Also will weigh in (heh) on added weight and the sensation that provides.


[edit]

Bummer, the front Best Skins Ever was a bust. Tons of air bubbles I couldn't massage out. (they wouldn't move.) Lots of dust specks (I mean, I get that this is my fault, but I did the same "controlled, steamy environment" I always do with my dry-apply skins. With it being wet and soapy, it was also hard to tell it had any dust issues, so I had to basically let it fully cure only to find out it was rife with them.

Oh well. At least the back has a neat matte skin on it.

I would be interested in this. I had two canvas cases before and was thinking of switching to a different case this time for the air, but I'm not seeing any I like better.

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty

Abel Wingnut posted:

I was dead-set on getting one of the new iPads until this thread. A few guys mentioned that Safari was over-reloading pages or something. Then a few of you mentioned the limited amount of RAM. But now I'm feeling the urge to get one again. Have either of those issues proven to be wait-until-February-worthy issues?
Tabs auto-refreshing was the main reason why I sold the ipad 1 and never got a new one until the Air was launched. Needless to say, the tab-refreshing pissed me off immensely. I use Safari and there's not a whole lot of auto-refreshing going on, and when it happens it's a lot speedier than it used to be.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
I usually only have about 3 or 4 tabs at a time, admittedly, but I rarely notice tab refreshing to be that bad unless I've gone off and played a game that really pushes things then gone back to Safari or if I haven't used it in a day or two.

saber45
Nov 10, 2004

The Retina mini that I've got goes noticeably yellower near the bottom of the screen in portrait. Apples quality control seem to have been on holiday lately.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003

saber45 posted:

The Retina mini that I've got goes noticeably yellower near the bottom of the screen in portrait. Apples quality control seem to have been on holiday lately.

This is the glue not having fully cured and it fades after a little while; it was a problem (Gluegate) with, I think, the iPhone 5 when it was first released, too. It's because Apple is shipping this poo poo straight off of the assembly line to your door.

saber45
Nov 10, 2004

maduin posted:

This is the glue not having fully cured and it fades after a little while; it was a problem (Gluegate) with, I think, the iPhone 5 when it was first released, too. It's because Apple is shipping this poo poo straight off of the assembly line to your door.

That's amazing considering there isn't any glue in iPad screens! The glue thing was true of one of the old models of phone but hasn't been true in years. The only way it'll fade is if the user gets used to it.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

saber45 posted:

That's amazing considering there isn't any glue in iPad screens! The glue thing was true of one of the old models of phone but hasn't been true in years. The only way it'll fade is if the user gets used to it.

You sure about that?

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad+Mini+Retina+Display+Teardown/19374

In this teardown staredown, the Mini blinks first: after offering up the usual gluey resistance, it succumbs and releases its front panel.
The ridiculous amount of glue holding iPads together is no longer any surprise—but that doesn't make it okay. Glue inhibits repair, and that is bad.

saber45
Nov 10, 2004

mattfl posted:

You sure about that?

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPad+Mini+Retina+Display+Teardown/19374

In this teardown staredown, the Mini blinks first: after offering up the usual gluey resistance, it succumbs and releases its front panel.
The ridiculous amount of glue holding iPads together is no longer any surprise—but that doesn't make it okay. Glue inhibits repair, and that is bad.

As far as i know it isn't between the screen and the digitizer so it wouldn't actually be visible to the user? I have been running the thing on full brightness and it isn't showing any sign of fading.

That teardown says:

"The LCD and glass are not fused together and can be replaced independently."

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!
Someone peed on your screen, deal with it.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
I haven't had to repair a phone or tablet in the last 10 years, and I am extremely clumsy, throw stuff around, and use every device without a case (other than a smart cover on the iPad). Even my first gen iPad which I picked up at launch, and recently traded in, was still in near perfect condition after years of throwing it around and hastily cramming it into a full bag at airports.

Sieg
Sep 28, 2009

Must kill all humans

saber45 posted:

As far as i know it isn't between the screen and the digitizer so it wouldn't actually be visible to the user? I have been running the thing on full brightness and it isn't showing any sign of fading.

That teardown says:

"The LCD and glass are not fused together and can be replaced independently."

Hold it in portrait and shake it as hard as you can. This causes it to evaporate much faster. It should only take ~15-20 minutes.

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

Question Mark Mound posted:

I usually only have about 3 or 4 tabs at a time, admittedly, but I rarely notice tab refreshing to be that bad unless I've gone off and played a game that really pushes things then gone back to Safari or if I haven't used it in a day or two.

This is why I usually only keep a couple of tabs open at a time. The fewer tabs you have, the less it refreshes.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

SimpleCoax posted:

I would be interested in this. I had two canvas cases before and was thinking of switching to a different case this time for the air, but I'm not seeing any I like better.

Sorry I didn't do the comparison yet. I may not. Casewise, it's practically the same thickness. Make no mistake, a folio like this adds appreciable weight. However it's still lighter than the other iPad versions due to it being built that way...

SnatchRabbit
Feb 23, 2006

by sebmojo
Anyone here gone from a retina iPad 3/4 to the retina mini? I have a 1st gen iPad I was going to trade into target for the $200 min (are they still even doing that?) and put the credit toward either a mini retina or an air. I'm mostly interested in reading comics and wondering if the smaller screen size but same res makes any difference. Personally I think I just like the larger form factor but wanted to get some thoughts.

VV It's a first gen iPad. :(

SnatchRabbit fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Nov 15, 2013

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

SnatchRabbit posted:

Anyone here gone from a retina iPad 3/4 to the retina mini? I have a 1st gen iPad I was going to trade into target for the $200 min (are they still even doing that?) and put the credit toward either a mini retina or an air. I'm mostly interested in reading comics and wondering if the smaller screen size but same res makes any difference. Personally I think I just like the larger form factor but wanted to get some thoughts.

The Target deal ended on the 9th. That being said, since you have such a recent iPad, you'd be making over $200 on a trade-in wherever you go, so long as it isn't damaged.

Socialism
May 9, 2009

SnatchRabbit posted:

Anyone here gone from a retina iPad 3/4 to the retina mini? I have a 1st gen iPad I was going to trade into target for the $200 min (are they still even doing that?) and put the credit toward either a mini retina or an air. I'm mostly interested in reading comics and wondering if the smaller screen size but same res makes any difference. Personally I think I just like the larger form factor but wanted to get some thoughts.

I went from iPad 4 to the mini, I don't read comics but I have a number of magazine subscriptions. All the magazines I have look great - even business journals, which can have dense text with charts/graphs/etc. are still fine to read in portrait mode. I imagine comics would be ok. Obviously it'd be much easier on a big iPad but the portability difference is very noticeable. If weight and size are not major concerns I'd say go with the Air.

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream

Socialism posted:

I went from iPad 4 to the mini......Obviously it'd be much easier on a big iPad but the portability difference is very noticeable. If weight and size are not major concerns I'd say go with the Air.

The portability difference of iPad 4 to a mini is a lot bigger than an Air to mini, just keep that in mind. If you need a bigger screen, get a bigger screen.

geera
May 20, 2003
I went from an iPad 3 to a retina Mini and I'm actually considering trading it in for an Air. The Mini is great for games, but I've noticed some eye strain when I read web pages, probably because text is sharper but smaller on the retina screen. It's especially noticeable if I read an article in Safari and then look up at the TV -- my eyes will feel dry and vision will be slightly blurry for a few seconds. I was hoping I'd just get used to it, but my eyes haven't adjusted yet unfortunately.

Books On Tape
Dec 26, 2003

Future of the franchise
Those of you with Target's $200 gift card from the trade-in, they now have some models of the mini retina in stock online. Keep in mind using both the trade-in card and a regular credit card on their website is impossible so you need to use the trade-in card to buy a regular gift card, then use that gift card and a credit card to buy the iPad.

CerebralDonut
Mar 5, 2004

geera posted:

I went from an iPad 3 to a retina Mini and I'm actually considering trading it in for an Air. The Mini is great for games, but I've noticed some eye strain when I read web pages, probably because text is sharper but smaller on the retina screen. It's especially noticeable if I read an article in Safari and then look up at the TV -- my eyes will feel dry and vision will be slightly blurry for a few seconds. I was hoping I'd just get used to it, but my eyes haven't adjusted yet unfortunately.

I use the mercury browser on my original mini - it lets me increase the font size of webpages without having to manually resize constantly. Give it a shot, I had the same problem.

Daedalus Esquire
Mar 30, 2008
I'm a guy so I don't really have a way to stash my Air, and I have yet to feel encumbered by carrying it. If I'm going to class, I generally have a bag anyway for my books so if you're a student that issue is gone. If you work in an office or something, it should fit in your briefcase without issue and if you don't use one walking from the car to your desk shouldn't be any sort of trial. It's also still small enough that my girlfriend can slip it in her purse along with her kindle fire if I need her to.

The thing weighs a pound, it's not like 2 inches on the screen turns it into this huge device that you can't transport, it's actually pretty easy, and I doubt the 7 inch version would fit in most peoples pocket anyway. Will having it be 2 inches smaller make it that much easier to carry?
Only you can answer that, but as a comic book reader, I say get the big one, enjoy the large dynamic art, and don't really worry about portability. It's one pound.

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
My biggest regret regarding the Air is picking up the cover instead of the case. Wish there was a way to get out of that one.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Xabi posted:

My biggest regret regarding the Air is picking up the cover instead of the case. Wish there was a way to get out of that one.

Can't you return it?

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

Daedalus Esquire posted:

I'm a guy so I don't really have a way to stash my Air, and I have yet to feel encumbered by carrying it. If I'm going to class, I generally have a bag anyway for my books so if you're a student that issue is gone. If you work in an office or something, it should fit in your briefcase without issue and if you don't use one walking from the car to your desk shouldn't be any sort of trial. It's also still small enough that my girlfriend can slip it in her purse along with her kindle fire if I need her to.

The thing weighs a pound, it's not like 2 inches on the screen turns it into this huge device that you can't transport, it's actually pretty easy, and I doubt the 7 inch version would fit in most peoples pocket anyway. Will having it be 2 inches smaller make it that much easier to carry?
Only you can answer that, but as a comic book reader, I say get the big one, enjoy the large dynamic art, and don't really worry about portability. It's one pound.

The Mini is probably best suited to people who have to travel a lot - trust me, a full-sized iPad can be a little clumsy to pull out when you're on a plane, and even when it isn't it's nice to have the space in your carry-on back. It's also better if you're planning to use your Mini as a map or a camera.

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Nihiliste posted:

The Mini is probably best suited to people who have to travel a lot - trust me, a full-sized iPad can be a little clumsy to pull out when you're on a plane, and even when it isn't it's nice to have the space in your carry-on back. It's also better if you're planning to use your Mini as a map or a camera.

Counter point: I travel a lot an I really love the full sized iPad compared to the Mini. Movies and magazines and books on the slightly larger screen are really nice.

I should be getting an Air this weekend, so my only issue (weight) will be resolved.

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty

Joe Don Baker posted:

Can't you return it?
Can I? Bought it in the US, but that's not where I live. I saw somebody here talk about how Apple Store was Apple Store, but I'm a pessimist by nature.


e: "14 day return policy."
Doh! That was today.

Xabi fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 15, 2013

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

Welp

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

Ultimate Mango posted:

Counter point: I travel a lot an I really love the full sized iPad compared to the Mini. Movies and magazines and books on the slightly larger screen are really nice.

I should be getting an Air this weekend, so my only issue (weight) will be resolved.

Movies are the one area where I will definitely appreciate having an Air while I'm traveling. A small screen is just fine for me as far as reading goes - I do have a Kindle, after all.

LASER BEAM DREAM
Nov 3, 2005

Oh, what? So now I suppose you're just going to sit there and pout?

How long did you leave it? I did about 6 minutes full brightness and didn't have any retention.

double sulk
Jul 2, 2010

LASER BEAM DREAM posted:

How long did you leave it? I did about 6 minutes full brightness and didn't have any retention.

It's not mine. It's on MacRumors.

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend
I checked the OP, but it is a bit light on iPad Air accessory suggestions. I want something lightweight and fairly unobtrusive. I've read the Apple Smart Covers are not great, but is that sperging? Also, are there any recommendations on a specific brand of plastic for the screen/back? Thanks!

milkaxor
Mar 5, 2003

I choose you!
The old 4 fold iPad case was quite good. Fit better and was a case I would keep on. I have Smart Cover with my air and I take it off now when I use my iPad. That may not be too helpful but it works well for me at home and on the train.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.


Is that a Mini or an Air?

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Don Tacorleone posted:

Is that a Mini or an Air?

Retina Mini.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

How long does it take for current gen iPads to hit the refurbished store? I'd live an iPad Mini but can't quite justify the $300 price tag.

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illcendiary
Dec 4, 2005

Damn, this is good coffee.

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

How long does it take for current gen iPads to hit the refurbished store? I'd live an iPad Mini but can't quite justify the $300 price tag.

You should be able to buy used non retina iPad minis for less than that. Check your local Craigslist.

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