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Ignite Memories posted:Man... aside from the novelty of a levitating electric-type and a sarcophagus pokemon, there is nothing in that list I liked. I suppose I'll just have to power my way through... 
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horriblePencilist posted:I recommend Toxic Orb with Facade. 140+STAB is a great option, especially if you can regenerate your health using Horn Leech. After that, Wild Charge/Megahorn/Jumpkick for coverage and Grass Whistle to bypass any walls. With Serene Grace, it's 100% accurate and since it's not a spore-move, it should work on grass. Serene Grace only affects moves with secondary effects, so for example Thunderbolt's chance of paralyzing will be doubled. It doesn't affect Grass Whistle at all. Toxic Orb is a terrible idea if you plan for Sawsbuck to stay in for more than a couple of turns, you may be able to outheal it with Horn Leech initially but not in the long run, and Return with a Life Orb is both more reliable and affects more than just your Normal STAB. Somehow I didn't notice somebody already pointed this out Choray fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Just battled a Japanese dude that used a RestTalk Fissure Stunfisk. The problem was that I was using a vivilon and he just stayed in and kept fissuring over and over while I set up. 
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TheEggsBenedict posted:Sorry, but Cottonee and Whimsicott are great. Ok, yeah, they're pretty cute, but i'm already so fond of my venusaur and klefki, I don't really need a grass fairy :/ I'm putting in all this time mostly just so I can recover my Lugia for a double handbird team, but I'm also probably going to bring back my Swords Dance / Waterfall / Earthquake / Ice Fang Feraligatr. Is there room on a 6th-gen team for one of those? I was really happy with how he could cover his weaknesses so effectively.
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horriblePencilist posted:What does the Uber-tier look like now anyway? Any additions or removals? Obviously all weather-related mons probably dropped a tier or two, and they might have to make a new tier above Uber for some Megas, but what else is new? I don't think anything is dropping Kyogre out of Ubers ever, just saying.
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^^ I was more referring to dudes like Excadrill, but yeah.Choray posted:Serene Grace only affects moves with secondary effects, so for example Thunderbolt's chance of paralyzing will be doubled. It doesn't affect Grass Whistle at all. Toxic Orb is a terrible idea if you plan for Sawsbuck to stay in for more than a couple of turns, you may be able to outheal it with Horn Leech initially but not in the long run, and Return with a Life Orb is both more reliable and affects more than just your Normal STAB. Oh, I thought the Toxic Orb would only poison the holder. My bad. So yeah, Life Orb Return is your best bet.
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Nov 17, 2013 02:17
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noirstronaut posted:Is there a preferred way to breed a Pokemon from 2 IVs and a 3 IV Ditto to a 4 - 5 IV pair of parents? Anyone know the best way to do this? Would my best bet be pairing a 3 IV and 2 IV parent together with Destiny Knot and hope for the best? Right now, I have two 3 IV Sawsbucks with a total of 4 IVs connecting, but should I just pair one of the 3 IVs with a 2 IV in the other desired stats?
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In breeding progression you sub parents with more IV's total in with at least one stat not overlapped until you're breeding w/ 5 IVers (or stop at 5 IVs b/c  )2+2 to 2+3 to 3+3 to 3+4 to 4+4 to 5, sometimes yo uget lucky and get 5's off of 2 3's. When subbing parents keep in mind things like nature and hidden ability (don't sub in female froakies that don't have protean etc)
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So I'm breeding beldums and I have a question about natures. Is getting an attack raising nature really that good or should I slap an everstone on one of the quirky 5IV beldums I have? I am drowning in 4-5 IV beldums.
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Nuebot posted:So I'm breeding beldums and I have a question about natures. Is getting an attack raising nature really that good or should I slap an everstone on one of the quirky 5IV beldums I have? I am drowning in 4-5 IV beldums. Use synchronize to get a ditto of the right nature. Having the proper nature is always important.
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Zoness posted:In breeding progression you sub parents with more IV's total in with at least one stat not overlapped until you're breeding w/ 5 IVers (or stop at 5 IVs b/c So I should do something like 3 (HP, Atk, SpA) + 2 (Def, Speed)? My question is what to do after that. 5 IV would be fine since I'm not utilizing SpA much at all. When replacing the 2 IV, I should aim for 3 IVs in useful stats, right? Utilizing elsewhere would make 0 sense, logically (from what I think I know).
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Strange Quark posted:Aegislash does seem immune to Mummy though, if the one in Sushi High Roller is anything to go by. Abilities that define how the Pokemon work, things like Truant or Slow Start, usually cant be changed by anything. I guess Stance Change qualifies.
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Zoness posted:Use synchronize to get a ditto of the right nature. Having the proper nature is always important. I'm trying to get a shiny actually so I'm using a japanese ditto. If I get one of the right nature then (I'm thinking adamant or brave) I'll toss an everstone on it. Or does which parent holds the destiny knot matter at all?
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noirstronaut posted:So I should do something like 3 (HP, Atk, SpA) + 2 (Def, Speed)? You could do that, but it's going to be pretty slow. You're going to be a lot better off if you've got two 3IVs, for one, and you're always better off if you've got overlap in whatever you're doing because the more stats shared between the parents that have 31s in them the better odds of actually having that passed down.
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Meat Recital posted:Abilities that define how the Pokemon work, things like Truant or Slow Start, usually cant be changed by anything. I guess Stance Change qualifies. Except Truant CAN be changed by Mummy.
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GAAAAHHHH loving Rhyperior survives a Grass Knot with a Focus Sash and proceeds to OHKO with loving HORN DRILL on my 40+ Battle Maison streak. I don't know how anyone has the patience or mental fortitude for this poo poo without resorting to cheating.
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Meat Recital posted:Abilities that define how the Pokemon work, things like Truant or Slow Start, usually cant be changed by anything. I guess Stance Change qualifies. Stance Change is one of two abilities that can't be changed by Mummy. The other is Multitype, which can't be changed by anything. There are some other effects that can remove Truant or Slow Start. It seems somewhat inconsistent. It's kind of moot for now, though, as neither Cofagrigus, Slaking, Regigigas, nor Arceus can be obtained currently.
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Reinanigans posted:GAAAAHHHH I just do Singles, man. Save yourself the headache and frustration. Sure, it takes a little longer to rack up BP, but you also don't feel like you're about to have an aneurysm from the AI's bullshit. Singles doesn't even start getting tricky until the last five battles, and even then it's really mild. Worst I've fought is a Tyranitar that used Fling to huck an Iron Ball at my Mega Gengar to OHKO her.
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Nuebot posted:I'm trying to get a shiny actually so I'm using a japanese ditto. If I get one of the right nature then (I'm thinking adamant or brave) I'll toss an everstone on it. Or does which parent holds the destiny knot matter at all? It doesn't matter which parent holds the destiny knot. What I would suggest doing is first breeding a 5-6 IV parent first with egg moves and the nature you want before breeding it for a Masuda Method pokemon, so this way it'll have a higher chance of having great IVs (and you can wonder trade off the extra progeny)
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Desperate Character posted:It doesn't matter which parent holds the destiny knot. What I would suggest doing is first breeding a 5-6 IV parent first with egg moves and the nature you want before breeding it for a Masuda Method pokemon, so this way it'll have a higher chance of having great IVs (and you can wonder trade off the extra progeny) Beldum learns no egg moves and can only breed with ditto. And getting a foreign 4-5IV ditto is like pulling teeth. But otherwise its mostly just a matter of waiting. I'm honestly curious if I'll get a 6IV beldum or a shiny first.
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:You could do that, but it's going to be pretty slow. You're going to be a lot better off if you've got two 3IVs, for one, and you're always better off if you've got overlap in whatever you're doing because the more stats shared between the parents that have 31s in them the better odds of actually having that passed down. Well, I have two 3 IVs now, but, between them both, Speed (one of its highest stats) is not perfect.
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noirstronaut posted:This is why I come to SA instead of relying 100% on Smogon. Thanks for the suggestions! This is great unintentional humor because that Toxic Orb Facade/Grasswhistle set was pretty bad advice. This was the post right above yours, which you may not have seen: Ruggington posted:Life Orb Return is nearly as strong, and all of your other moves are stronger as well. Also, Serene Grace doesn't work that way and you should be using Sap Sipper.
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Bongo Bill posted:Stance Change is one of two abilities that can't be changed by Mummy. The other is Multitype, which can't be changed by anything. There are some other effects that can remove Truant or Slow Start. It seems somewhat inconsistent. It's kind of moot for now, though, as neither Cofagrigus, Slaking, Regigigas, nor Arceus can be obtained currently. In particular, Worry Seed/Gastro Acid is great for you to use on your ally Regigigas/Slaking in doubles to remove their abilities and turn them into powerhouses, although it's a pretty predictable strategy. ChibiSoma posted:I just do Singles, man. Save yourself the headache and frustration. Sure, it takes a little longer to rack up BP, but you also don't feel like you're about to have an aneurysm from the AI's bullshit. Singles doesn't even start getting tricky until the last five battles, and even then it's really mild. Yeah but then you can't get the Lansat or Starf berries from the 100/200 win streaks.
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Reinanigans posted:GAAAAHHHH Honestly, it really is just mental fortitude and a solid plan. Super rotation kept kicking my rear end and then with the right setup it was the one I got a 100 streak on. It also helps to know the various degrees of bullshit that exist like clumsy switcheroos.
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Its not like the Maison is hard either. It's just that once in awhile some stupid team with bullshit moves gets lucky and you can't do much about it.
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Serene Grace Togekiss eats the Maison up. I used one with an Assault Vest and barely ever had to switch it out.
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I'm building my Mega Gardevoir right now, and this is what she's got: Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite Modest Max speed, s.atk, rest into hp? -Calm Mind -Focus Blast -Moonblast -Shadow Ball What I'm wondering is if Shadow Ball is really worth it. Aegislash has Shadow Sneak which would go off before she'd have a chance to use Shadow Ball, and I've already got an Aegislash of my own for Psychic types. Should I put something else in SB's place? Energy Ball is similar and has slightly more power behind it, but I don't know if a Grass move is going to be all that useful.
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hey, had a question, I did. Could you exploit the Maison by saving before you talk to the lady and then declining to save the game? If that's possible, it seems like a major oversight.
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noirstronaut posted:hey, had a question, I did. No, you can't start the challenge without saving first. It's been that way since the Battle Tower was introduced in Gen III.
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You cannot. You should try stuff before asking.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:You cannot. You should try stuff before asking. I didn't have my game with me. I don't know if you know me from some other place, but your responses to me in this thread have been nothing but snarky and it's kinda weird and antisocial, but I won't dwell on it. Anyway, does anyone know if the possibility of seasonal formes can/will be reintroduced? I was looking at various forums about Swasbuck (and Deerling) switching formes and since seasons are out, it seems unlikely, but have there been any additions to the game that could possibly hint towards forme changes? noirstronaut fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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They probably didn't include stuff like seasons so that they could get the game out sooner. The lack of features probably has more to do with the effort of converting everything into 3D than anything.
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Improbable Lobster posted:They probably didn't include stuff like seasons so that they could get the game out sooner. The lack of features probably has more to do with the effort of converting everything into 3D than anything. I figured seasons were left out mostly because certain areas have an all encompassing season over them (Route 14 being Autumn-like, Snowbelle being Winter). Not sure if B/W had this since I kinda skimmed over those games and dropped them quickly.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I thought I remembered hearing somewhere that Gamefreak really did not like the idea of releasing paid DLC for the games so that probably wasn't going to happen. There's gotta be something coming on the DLC front. They already put Zygarde, who would make sense as a Pokemon Z exclusive legendary, into X and Y, so I don't think a Z version is coming. We've also got plenty of mysterious things in X and Y, including: - The mysterious region we'll "see soon enough" and the Strange Souvenir. - The people in Lumiose who mention rumors of the Heat Dome pokemon (Heatran). - The so far unused race track above Route 22. - The so far unused railway in Couriway Town. - The Ghost Girl. - The Scary House important enough to be mentioned on the map and for the main storyline to take you to, but all it has so far is a man who tells you a story about "a horde of faceless men" and asks for a tip, later saying "some things are better off not being known". - The Anistar Sundial is said on the map to be rumored to have come from space, whereas an NPC says they heard it was created by ancient pokemon. Surely there's a greater purpose to it than just hunting for Mega Stones. - Where is the unknown forest and the unknown mountain where Team Flare found Xerneas and Yveltal? Maybe these places hold special items that can be used to trigger alternate forms for these Pokemon? - After beating Team Flare, the girl in the house where the man tells you the story about Xerneas/Yveltal says this: "I heard about the incident in Geosenge Town. They say that the strange group dressed in red managed to find Xerneas asleep somewhere. A few years back a different group of people came around here, asking the same questions." Who is this second group? - Why can't we enter the doors that seemingly lead to alternate Power Plant facilities? Does this have to do with the future event Pokemon? - The following message is hidden behind a timetable in Lumiose Station: "I'm going to go for help. Wait in the usual place." What does this mean? - An NPC mentions that she has heard of a waterfall that flows backwards. Where's that? - The Legendary Birds eventually flee to the Sea Spirit's Den. Lugia is connected both to the Legendary Birds and the sea. Coincidence? - Personally, the Tower of Mastery seems too big and impressive considering how little a role it has in the game. Maybe DLC will expand its role? - The stack of tires in Pokemon Village seems fairly suspicious to me; I don't think anything like that appears anywhere else, unlike the garbage bins. I could be reading too much into this one. - I'm also certainly reading too much into this, but there's a graphical glitch in Lumiose that looks kind of like Missingo. It would be awesome if Gamefreak finally made it an official Pokemon (perhaps created due to a glitch in the computer system that stores spare Pokemon).
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Now the question is, should a computer virus Pokemon be Poison/Steel to represent being a virulent, malignant substance, or Bug/Steel for the sake of punnery?
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Hexmage-SA posted:They already put Zygarde, who would make sense as a Pokemon Z exclusive legendary, into X and Y, so I don't think a Z version is coming. Rayquaza was in Ruby and Sapphire. Giratina was in Diamond and Pearl. Kyurem was in Black and White. But no, Zygarde being in X and Y obviously means there won't be a Z e: And how are unused things in X and Y proof that there WON'T be a Z? The actual conclusion to derive from that is the exact opposite.
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Hexmage-SA posted:There's gotta be something coming on the DLC front. They already put Zygarde, who would make sense as a Pokemon Z exclusive legendary, into X and Y, so I don't think a Z version is coming. Has there ever been a 3rd game cover legendary that couldn't be caught in the first 2 games that gen? Not to say you're wrong of course. Everyone was dead certain that the 3rd game in 5th gen would be Pokemon Grey.
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Hexmage-SA posted:- The stack of tires in Pokemon Village seems fairly suspicious to me; I don't think anything like that appears anywhere else, unlike the garbage bins. I could be reading too much into this one. Am I reading the literal equivalent to Reptilian conspiracy theories for Pokemon?
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Hexmage-SA posted:- I'm also certainly reading too much into this, but there's a graphical glitch in Lumiose that looks kind of like Missingo. It would be awesome if Gamefreak finally made it an official Pokemon (perhaps created due to a glitch in the computer system that stores spare Pokemon). I was maybe with you on this up until this part. But yeah, there are a few things that aren't addressed in this game. The next version(s) will probably cover them. There is a suspicious lack of endgame material, unless it's all unlocked by event items or something.
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