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bull3964 posted:Technically speaking, first wouldn't indicate platform parity (it would potentially indicate platform superiority.) BoyBlunder posted:I'd say SwiftKey is fantastic, too. effika posted:Duolingo. Wikipedia posted:On 13 November 2012 Duolingo released their iOS app through the iTunes App Store.[24] The app can be downloaded for free and is compatible with most iPhone, iPod, and iPad devices.[25] On 29 May 2013, Duolingo released their Android app, which was downloaded over a million times in the first three weeks and quickly became the #1 education app in the Google Play store.
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LastInLine posted:Kind of my point. I'm not actually sure what point you were trying to make then. There's no disputing that iOS has had a more mature platform for longer. That would naturally lead to things coming out on the platform first and then later going to Android. That gap has shrunk though. Most competent developers target iOS and Android for simultaneous releases now (approval process delays notwithstanding.) Anyone grandstanding on how the marginal cost of one platform over the other doesn't make what they are doing worth doing is either playing political theater or just plain not good at their job.
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Is it possible for android to be connected to more than one bluetooth device simaltaneously? I have a bluetooth system in my car already for receiving calls, but it doesn't support A2DP. If I was to get a wireless music receiver and chuck that in the car as well - would my phone be capable of connecting to both, sending the music to the receiver, and calls to the headset?
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Nov 19, 2013 02:20
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LastInLine posted:That having been said, can anyone think of any great app that came to Android first? Even one? Instagram, Vine, Angry Birds, Doodle Jump--you name it and it started on iOS. Until there's some great apps that start out exclusive on Android then move over by popular demand to iOS you just can't say that reality is backing up all of these stories and anecdotes about platform parity. Maybe Foursqure?
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Nov 19, 2013 02:23
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bull3964 posted:I'm not actually sure what point you were trying to make then. My point is that iOS is still the driver of the industry and that Android is a second class citizen. Kheldarn posted:Maybe Foursqure?
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Nov 19, 2013 02:45
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Spekkio posted:Is it possible for android to be connected to more than one bluetooth device simaltaneously? This is my exact situation and I bought a little bluetooth receiver to plug into my aux jack and it works just like you want it to. I have a Nexus 4, however, so it might depend on whatever bluetooth stack your phone is using.
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Nov 19, 2013 03:16
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LastInLine posted:If the gap was closed we'd be seeing apps break through from initially launching on Android into the mainstream but we aren't, but we still are seeing apps launch with iOS exclusivity that are, like Snapchat. This is where we are going to have to agree to disagree. The gap being closed means that apps are launching on both platforms simultaneously and that is happening in the vast majority of cases. Android, on occasion, is actually getting feature enhancements ahead of iOS (for example, 1080p Netflix). Both ecosystems are driving the industry, they are complementary now.
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Nov 19, 2013 03:32
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hooah posted:This is my exact situation and I bought a little bluetooth receiver to plug into my aux jack and it works just like you want it to. I have a Nexus 4, however, so it might depend on whatever bluetooth stack your phone is using. Cheers. Glad to hear it works for others. I've got a nexus5 so it can't be too different. Where did you get your receiver from?
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Nov 19, 2013 03:40
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Spekkio posted:Cheers. Glad to hear it works for others. I've got a nexus5 so it can't be too different. Amazon. I got an EDup, and it's worked OK, but it has a pretty short battery life, and I get some ground noise when I leave it plugged in, but it was fairly cheap. I really looking forward to upgrading the bluetooth module in my car sometime so I don't need an extra doohickey.
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Nov 19, 2013 04:21
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bull3964 posted:There's also Ingress, though that's probably disqualified since it's a Google product. I don't know what you think Ingress is, but it's definitely not something that a big group of people care about.
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Nov 19, 2013 05:00
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I don't know what you think Ingress is, but it's definitely not something that a big group of people care about. Eh, apparently around a million or so people have checked it out. That's not too shabby for being in closed beta until recently. Haven't really played around with it myself, but it's something I hear mentioned from time to time.
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bull3964 posted:Eh, apparently around a million or so people have checked it out. That's not too shabby for being in closed beta until recently. It was barely a closed beta, it was pretty drat easy to get an invite.
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Nov 19, 2013 05:21
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I think that until you see this change, you're not going to see major primary development on Android. It's just not worth it to try and break out your app there. Unless Android just starts totally destroying Apple in user numbers.  http://www.forbes.com/sites/tristanlouis/2013/08/10/how-much-do-average-apps-make/
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Nov 19, 2013 14:08
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When I'm using YouTube how do I get rid of the chromecast logo what I'm not near a wifi network? http://imgur.com/pYHblJ1
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Nov 19, 2013 14:10
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pistolshit posted:I think that until you see this change, you're not going to see major primary development on Android. It's just not worth it to try and break out your app there. Unless Android just starts totally destroying Apple in user numbers. He doesn't seem to be accounting for the split between free and paid apps there though? He's just taking Google's 'we've reached this many apps on the Play store!' spiel from an I/O presentation, which is going to include every free shitware app anyone's ever put out. You really need to use paid app data to make any meaningful comparisons
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Nov 19, 2013 14:47
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Yeah that math is pretty sketchy, and I'd be embarrassed as Forbes to publish it. It's facile and inaccurate, even if the underlying principle is true - this doesn't do any favours to proving it.
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Nov 19, 2013 15:02
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It's like saying "there is more free software than there are free cars, so average price per car is higher than average price per piece of software, so you'll make more money if you sell cars than if you sell software." It might be true, but it doesn't actually follow from the data. Edit: 
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Nov 19, 2013 15:03
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That's a good point. Does anyone have numbers for that? All, I've ever seen are totals like this.
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baka kaba posted:He doesn't seem to be accounting for the split between free and paid apps there though? He's just taking Google's 'we've reached this many apps on the Play store!' spiel from an I/O presentation, which is going to include every free shitware app anyone's ever put out. You really need to use paid app data to make any meaningful comparisons It's incredibly disingenuous, but it is still likely that an average developer of paid Android apps is going to make less. The main problem being competition and the number of developers willing to release their apps for free or undercutting apps that might have otherwise cost more. The barrier to entry on iOS is larger than it is on Android. This means that more often than not you're going to have developers that expect to recoup their costs. It makes developers far less likely to release applications for free. Apple's $99/year is high. High enough that a hobby developer is less likely to participate, which also brings the number of free and open source applications down. Meanwhile Google only costs $25 as a one time entry fee. This means that even a high school kid with a lovely part time job can afford to get into app development. This also means open source developers and hobbyists are more likely to participate because $25 isn't a cost you feel you have to recoup, and if you do it's easy to obtain so the risk is low. Google's method creates a play store community that is going to have far more competition, and therefore it's also going to have far more developers that are willing to release free software or release software at a cost that undercuts other products. Frozen Peach fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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lags posted:Yeah that math is pretty sketchy, and I'd be embarrassed as Forbes to publish it. Forbes don't give a poo poo, it's their 'contributor' program which is barely a step above CNN's iReport. They're a plague on the internet now because all over the place you see people saying 'but Forbes say...' and it's some moron in the contributor section.
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Nov 19, 2013 15:30
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Frozen-Solid posted:It's incredibly disingenuous, but it is still likely that an average developer of paid Android apps is going to make less. The main problem being competition and the number of developers willing to release their apps for free or undercutting apps that might have otherwise cost more. Yeah I don't really doubt that, and anecdotally the App Store just seems to be made up of paid content to a greater degree than the Play Store, so to me it just feels more like there's an expectation that stuff is usually paid for, and for more moneys. But that's a gut feeling, and it would be nice to actually see that backed up by some data. There is a pretty big userbase disparity, which offsets the cheapness factor, and those cultural trends don't necessarily stay static. The question really is if an Android developer with a good app is able to pitch it at some price that gives them enough purchases to make it competitive with iOS. A lot of that depends on the type and quality of the app itself, and their ability to get enough exposure in the ocean of apps sloshing around out there. There's a hell of a lot of factors at play, and that's not even getting into other monetisation routes. There's a need for some real info here, otherwise we're just speculating
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So speaking of the Google Survey app, I just had a new survey pop up. Asked me one question (I use my phone to compare prices in stores - answer 1-5 - 5 strongly agree) and I got a $1 store credit. Sweet
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rotaryfun posted:So speaking of the Google Survey app, I just had a new survey pop up. Asked me one question (I use my phone to compare prices in stores - answer 1-5 - 5 strongly agree) and I got a $1 store credit.
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Nov 19, 2013 17:29
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They're testing your honesty.
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b0nes posted:When I'm using YouTube how do I get rid of the chromecast logo what I'm not near a wifi network?
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rotaryfun posted:So speaking of the Google Survey app, I just had a new survey pop up. Asked me one question (I use my phone to compare prices in stores - answer 1-5 - 5 strongly agree) and I got a $1 store credit. I only got $0.25, what the hell.
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standardtoaster posted:I only got $0.25, what the hell. Same, for answering that I find web purchasing annoying on my phone because web forms aren't formatted for poo poo. Where was the "Because I have a tablet" option? 
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Nov 19, 2013 18:21
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Well, all I got was a "there was an error submitting your answers, we'll try again later" message and then nothing. I think I'm going to just uninstall the app at this point
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Nov 19, 2013 20:50
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Is it possible that the "we couldn't record your answers but will try again later" thing is related to being rooted? I can't even sign up for the service without it failing.
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Nov 19, 2013 21:06
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LastInLine posted:Is it possible that the "we couldn't record your answers but will try again later" thing is related to being rooted? I can't even sign up for the service without it failing. Nope. I'm rooted.
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I've only received one survey so far (forget what it was about) and I got a dollar for it. I bought a song from Play. It was cool.
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Nov 19, 2013 21:14
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Velis autobrightness or Lux (or others)?
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Nov 19, 2013 21:17
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Lux.
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I use Lux on my Nexus 7 and love it. The night mode it borrows from the PC f.lux is especially cool.
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Two quick questions... 1) Can I send a link (or text/whatever) to my Nexus 5 from my PC and have it appear as a notification? Preferrably I'd just like to use the PC and paste the URL in a form and have it sent to my phone. 2) What's the best navbar replacement for the Nexus 5? I hate the soft buttons taking up so much space...
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Nov 19, 2013 21:40
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Vinlaen posted:
Is Chrome to Phone still a thing? I used that or the Pocket add on for Chrome to pull up links on my phone but haven't used them in a while. Now I just email links to myself.
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Nov 19, 2013 22:08
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Vinlaen posted:Two quick questions...
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Open the link in Chrome on your desktop. Open a new tab in Chrome on your phone and hit the button on the bottom right. You just blew my mind
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Vinlaen posted:Two quick questions... You can use Pushbullet. It works really well and will push things back to chrome as well.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:You just blew my mind Holy poo poo me too - I guess reading those feature notifications come in handy after all!
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