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Wouldn't bet on it. Bandai tried a High Grade MA line a while back and it totally poo poo the bed. I doubt they'll try that sort of thing again.
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Nov 19, 2013 07:30
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There's a EDIT: V Dendrobium is actually kind of popular though, and even then nobody got it because it was loving expensive. BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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Nov 19, 2013 07:49
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Bimmi posted:Wouldn't bet on it. Bandai tried a High Grade MA line a while back and it totally poo poo the bed. I doubt they'll try that sort of thing again. Wasn't that because they made them in 1/1200 scale or some crap, because it can't be that hard to do because they've done 1/144 scale HG's for Dendrobium & Psycho Gundam already(hell most Mobile Armors aren't even all that huge really)
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drrockso20 posted:they've done 1/144 scale HG's for Dendrobium & Psycho Gundam already Those also poo poo the bed.
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Caros posted:It does scare me that they might be doing the mid season upgrade only eight episodes into the series. They did it 6 episode in really, since the Build Mk II was introduced at the end of the last episode in a way that made it look like they wouldn't be going back to the Build Strike. I'm not really sure why it'd scare you though. Show seems to be pretty clear in it's intent to have Sei/Reiji go through a few suits throughout and probably change it every 5 or 10 episodes, as opposed to twice in the show. No real reason not to either, since it's both good for the merchandise and for the show itself by constantly changing up the action a bit and keeping it visually interesting. Personally I'm hoping that Sei decides to try and imitate one of the cooler aspects of a show the way that the Apsalus and Gundam X Maoh did in this episode. Maybe the Vayeate's beam shielding, V2's wings of light, some funnels or 00's quantum sword or something rather than having him stick to vanilla suits and winning through pure skill against gimmicky opponents. He can show off some gimmicks and still have Reiji win with skill after all.
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Nov 19, 2013 14:20
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Speaking of which, at some point I hope they run into someone who's tried cramming every gundam gimmick onto an absolutely ridiculous-looking single suit.
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Sindai posted:Speaking of which, at some point I hope they run into someone who's tried cramming every gundam gimmick onto an absolutely ridiculous-looking single suit. They came quite close with this episode's Apsalus, which fitted just about every bullshit Zeon superweapon of the OYW onto a single machine.
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Darth Walrus posted:They came quite close with this episode's Apsalus, which fitted just about every bullshit Zeon superweapon of the OYW onto a single machine.
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Sindai posted:Speaking of which, at some point I hope they run into someone who's tried cramming every gundam gimmick onto an absolutely ridiculous-looking single suit. There are a few video game original suits that might come close to that.
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If it's possible to paint something like the I-Field on and X Gundams get to keep the satellite cannon, I wonder if a Turn A Gundam would just intrinsically have access to the Moonlight Butterfly. 
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That's it, final battle of the series is going to be Sei's dad with a customized Turn A!
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tsob posted:They did it 6 episode in really, since the Build Mk II was introduced at the end of the last episode in a way that made it look like they wouldn't be going back to the Build Strike. I'm not really sure why it'd scare you though. Show seems to be pretty clear in it's intent to have Sei/Reiji go through a few suits throughout and probably change it every 5 or 10 episodes, as opposed to twice in the show. No real reason not to either, since it's both good for the merchandise and for the show itself by constantly changing up the action a bit and keeping it visually interesting. Personally I'm hoping that Sei decides to try and imitate one of the cooler aspects of a show the way that the Apsalus and Gundam X Maoh did in this episode. Maybe the Vayeate's beam shielding, V2's wings of light, some funnels or 00's quantum sword or something rather than having him stick to vanilla suits and winning through pure skill against gimmicky opponents. He can show off some gimmicks and still have Reiji win with skill after all. Sei said he's going to repair the Build Strike. It's totally coming back at some point. So is the Mk.II. They're both the "OP" robots.
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TARDISman posted:That's it, final battle of the series is going to be Sei's dad with a customized Turn A!
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Nov 20, 2013 05:13
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Watch him show up with a Build Beginning Forever 300.
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Nov 20, 2013 05:23
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A 1982 1/144 Full Armor Gundam
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Ever since the first episode I've been wondering why everyone doesn't just use the Turn A, Turn X and 00 Quanta since those are the most totally loving broken suits around unless you start really digging into side materials and weird extra poo poo. Even ignoring movie 00 poo poo, just the A and X should be completely immortal, making GBS threads Moonlight Butterfly everywhere and make whoever is piloting them ~*~in tune with the plavsky particles~*~ or whatever excuse they're going to pull out for newtypery in this. Even accounting for Japan and their totally retarded taste in gundam television programming, the fandom should at least be able to recognize just how broken those suits are. On a similar note, if you were to only ever use the Zeta, would it just get stronger and stronger as it kept absorbing the souls of shattered gunpla left in its wake?
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As said before, the gunpla's abilities seem to have much less to do with in-series power levels, and more with how well they were built. Presumably, a shittily-made Gundam X (as in, not made by Mao) would still have a satellite cannon, but it would just shoot the laser equivalent of a pleasant breeze. Meanwhile, the Build Strike has a beam gun that shoots a big fuckoff laser just because Sei put a lot of cool OCD details into it, which interact with plavsky particles in blah blah handwavey ways. Meanwhile, Sei's dad cleaned the house using the original Gundam, which in theory is really baseline in terms of abilities. P.S.: 
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I find it both hilarious and somewhat sad that perhaps the most unrealistic aspect of the Build Fighters setting is that everyone's a good sport who uses their favorite designs instead of what's the most likely to win.
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Game balance was revolutionized, leading to breakthroughs in the material sciences and physics.
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The actual power levels of the suits in 'canon' appear to be entirely unimportant and most of their gimmicks and power comes from the mobile suit iself. A lot of the secondary stuff just doesn't exist. Build Strike doesn't have Phase Shift armor. The Wing Gundam (and probably Wing Zero) don't have super-strong super-light armor. It's unlikely that a GN suit would actually have the special abilities of a GN suit, or that a Zeta could Biosensor Saber, or that Turn-A could nanite swarm everything on the battlefield or that Unicorn could control enemy funnels or whatever. You certainly aren't going to get something like the Berserker System or Zero System which enhances the pilot. It seems like what you have to do is build special gimmicks into the suit itself. Aspalas got an I-Field because of special glossing applied to the model itself, not because someone attached an I-Field to it. Sei designed a detachable backpack and so the Strike's backpack can detach and continue fighting as a core fighter. What the suits can do seems to depend on the designer instead of the canonical ability. You can use G Bits as long as you're willing to spend the time and effort to build a whole loving lot of G-Bit models. It seems like special gimmicks like the Gundam X's Satellite Cannon needing microwaves still exist unless the gunpla builder specifically goes out of its way to design a gimmick which doesn't require that. On the other hand that's like the weird exception to the rule because everything else we've seen so far seems to lack any of the significant weaknesses of the canonical suit. Obviously you don't need a Newtype to use G-Bits (or presumably funnels), the Strike doesn't have its massive energy issues and need to recharge, and obviously G Gundam suits don't use Mobile Trace Systems. The Gundam X/DX might just be a weird exception here. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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When the GN-X made its cameo, it was still making GBS threads red pixie dust everywhere so jury's still out on GN suits. Though admittingly that could have just been due to Not Patrick putting an LED in it or something. I kind of want to see Unicorn show up just to see how they handle the HG not being able to transform.
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Turn X can still dismantle at will. poo poo, when you look at it through the shows lens of "making the gunpla well gives it combat benefits" most of the stuff about the Tunns could be achieved through baseline competent construction. Slap I Field glaze and all those gun things and some funnels on there and bam, you're dusting the battlefield in Moonlight Butterfly and nanites that consume continents in a heartbeat. I know the real reason is "no one in Japan wants to see the Turn A wreck everything ever" but a man can dream 
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Paper Lion posted:Turn X can still dismantle at will. Yeah but it looks like the Zaku Amazing can as well. Suits like the Psycommu Zaku can detach their arms at will. That's not actually that great a gimmick. It's also important to stress that the show doesn't seem to be saying "bigger guns win." Almost universally it's the more creative and more well-crafted Gunpla that wins as opposed to the thing trying to be the bigger gun. Look at the DX this episode which (on paper) should have been a complete shitwrecker. The DX with the moon out and an army of G-Bits was basically a mook of the week because he focused on quantity over quality. It's goofy and cartoony but 'the build quality of the toy means it is stronger" is kind of the underlying concept. Things like Freedom, Justice, the DX and the Wing Gundam have all gotten their poo poo wrecked by on-paper inferior mobile suits. Even if you have a canon-perfect Turn-A or Turn-X, you'd probably get your face pushed in by a guy in a heavily modified GM. Mao even mentioned how all of Sei's wall-o-protagonist suits were masterfully built but they disappointed him because they weren't modified. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Yeah, I've thought about just how broken a Turn A with a Moonlight Butterfly would be. Also, the Gundams in Gundam Wing were drat near invincible and destroyed Leos constantly with zero effort at all. And Sei's dad won the tournament with an RX-78 which was quickly outdated and inferior to a lot of Gundams developed later. So as much as "canonical power levels" enter into my mind, I don't think they matter in this show. I mean, if they did, if nothing else, mobile suits from later series like Unicorn and CCA would absolutely crush all the suits from the OYW, and Gundams from Wing and the Turn A\X would be broken as poo poo.
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Endorph posted:With him having the original Gundam as his normal machine, wouldn't his ultimate weapon be the Hi-Nu? 
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ImpAtom posted:The DX with the moon out and an army of G-Bits was basically a mook of the week because he focused on quantity over quality. Didn't help he just stood there and gaped at the mkII taking down his G-Bits instead of getting the Satellite Cannon ready like his partner was telling him to. I kind of wonder how he got good enough to be well-known in Sei's area if he apparently just spammed G-Bits all the time. Though then again, Sazaki made a name for himself too and he's not exactly king shitwrecker either.
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BlitzBlast posted:I kind of wonder how he got good enough to be well-known in Sei's area if he apparently just spammed G-Bits all the time. Though then again, Sazaki made a name for himself too and he's not exactly king shitwrecker either. Well, it's worth remembering Reiji is king hot poo poo of the mountain. He started piloted recently and is already capable of fighting the super-elite guy to an effectively standstill and basically wrecking everything else. "Spam G-Bits" probably works just fine when your opponent isn't a protagonist.
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This made me laugh a lot more than it should have.
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Until I see God Gundam or Master Gundam being used WITHOUT the mobile trace system, I will believe that there are guys who still have to manually do everything their mobile suits can.
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Sonata Mused posted:Until I see God Gundam or Master Gundam being used WITHOUT the mobile trace system, I will believe that there are guys who still have to manually do everything their mobile suits can. EDIT: Actually, doesn't the Master Gundam high grade come with Fuuinsaiki? Would they be able to enter those two as one unit? Endorph fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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Nov 20, 2013 18:59
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No, he has to bring his own, real horse to pilot it.
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Endorph posted:EDIT: Actually, doesn't the Master Gundam high grade come with Fuuinsaiki? Would they be able to enter those two as one unit? HG Fuuinsaiki is a glorified display base, so if somebody actually did try to use one it'd be like trying to weaponize a merry-go-round. Which would be amazing.
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BlitzBlast posted:HG Fuuinsaiki is a glorified display base, so if somebody actually did try to use one it'd be like trying to weaponize a merry-go-round. You just need someone crazy enough to work in all the details. And then Real Men Ride Each Other shall commence.
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Fittingly enough, today's Gunpla World Expo had physical spoilers for future Build Fighters episodes. The announced HG GM Sniper K9 confirms Mihoshi's coming back, and there's a new "Star Build Strike Gundam Plavsky Wing" so looks like the midseason upgrade is going to be Gundam X "give it a slight retool" style.
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I really do hope *~Kiraran~* is coming back, if only because I was bothered by how they treated her in her own episode. Like yeah, straight up sabotage is bad, but getting somebody else to build your gunpla for you can't be considered bad, if other characters and Reiji are doing the exact same dang thing! Also, even if she didn't like it / it was just because she's really devoted to her dream and job, memorizing the names of all the robots and marathoning every single gundam ova and tv show (good and bad!) takes some serious rear end dedication and is also something I could never do. Can't call nobody a ~Fake Gunpla Girl~ for doing that.  BlitzBlast spoilers:Is there something else that was announced that confirms that beyond the 0080 / GM connection? Although I guess if she was coming back she would definitely make sure to give herself a custom transforming backpack with a secret gimmick this time around.
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To be fair, Reiji said he liked her for pursuing her dream no matter what.
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New episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1owUxslXQ I... can't even pick out a particular element from this one. The whole thing was amazing and beautiful and I loved it from start to finish. How is this show so good?
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Tell me about it; I really love this show and wanted to share the love with some of my friends, but none of them were biting because they either don't watch shounen anime or are skeptical that a show with Gundam pasted in its name is actually any good.  The fight at the start alone had me sold for the entire episode, though at this point I can even forgive a couple or three bad episodes in this show's run.
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Opening the show with a G-Saviour destroyed in a single slash. 
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