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Crazy Ted posted:It's okay guys Sepp is going to make sure that working conditions are okay: I thought Franz Beckenbauer told us these 'slaves' didnt actually exist? Make your minds up FIFA
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What incentive do qatar have to change seeing as FIFA has already said it's going to be held there no matter what??
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I personally am optimistic that the increased spotlight on FIFA's abuses will finally empower Sepp Blatter, a man who has been tragically blamed for endemic corruption beyond his control, to implement the widespread reform FIFA needs. We all should do our part to support Sepp in his crusade to clean up Qatar.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:What incentive do qatar have to change seeing as FIFA has already said it's going to be held there no matter what?? Thing is Qatar is deeply invested in what people think. Damien Hirst just managed to fleece them of tens of millions because Qatar is dead set on being the modern art capital of the world. There could be a real impact on worker's rights provided the pressure is maintained. The problem internally is removing the sponsorship system. Many Qatari citizens make their living as sponsors, both of companies and expatriates, and surveys show that the vast majority want the khafala system tightened, not relaxed, so it won't be an easy sell.
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corpuscollossus posted:Thing is Qatar is deeply invested in what people think. Damien Hirst just managed to fleece them of tens of millions because Qatar is dead set on being the modern art capital of the world. Thats because its slavery, plain and simple. No-one wanted to set the slaves free either.
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corpuscollossus posted:Thing is Qatar is deeply invested in what people think. Damien Hirst just managed to fleece them of tens of millions because Qatar is dead set on being the modern art capital of the world. Yeah, this. If we assumed an actual good person with a non-robotic heart was in charge of FIFA, they would honestly be the perfect vessel for change in Qatar and the other slave states. It remains to be seen what Blatter can (or indeed will) do about the problem, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of professional sports as a conduit for change and progress.
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Quite frankly i hope the whole arabian peninsular is claimed by the sea so i never have to hear about one of their loving slave built vanity projects again
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the sex ghost posted:I thought Franz Beckenbauer told us these 'slaves' didnt actually exist? Make your minds up FIFA True slavery is being contractually required to play sport professionally for up to five years for no recompense other than £10m per annum
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Quite frankly i hope the whole arabian peninsular is claimed by the sea so i never have to hear about one of their loving slave built vanity projects again If the place is this bad now, what do you think its going to be like in 70 years when the wells start to dry?
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FullLeatherJacket posted:True slavery is being contractually required to play sport professionally for up to five years for no recompense other than £10m per annum
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serious gaylord posted:Thats because its slavery, plain and simple. No-one wanted to set the slaves free either. The lesson of Civil War history must then be that sending the US army into the Middle East will eventually sort it all out.
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serious gaylord posted:If the place is this bad now, what do you think its going to be like in 70 years when the wells start to dry? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaHkhmjeAtM, except with a big pile of South Asian corpses They're actually drying up right now, but luckily nobody has to be concerned because we checked and it turns out denial is actually a river in Egypt
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The only reason FIFA are even doing anything is because it turns out footballers are also stuck in Qatar and they managed to get word out
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serious gaylord posted:If the place is this bad now, what do you think its going to be like in 70 years when the wells start to dry? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrDCS9dSfTM
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So what you are saying is Messi, Ronaldo and Zlatan are going to go into Qatar to rescue Arsene Wenger, only for it to all go awry?
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Byolante posted:So what you are saying is Messi, Ronaldo and Zlatan are going to go into Qatar to rescue Arsene Wenger, only for it to all go awry? He didn't see the ambush 
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serious gaylord posted:If the place is this bad now, what do you think its going to be like in 70 years when the wells start to dry? By then they should have invested their massive oil profits into diversifying their economy into other industries, like slave trading.
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MisterBadIdea posted:By then they should have invested their massive oil profits into diversifying their economy into other industries, like slave trading.
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An ESPNFC writer gets a free trip to Qatar, says it's great and the 2022 WC will be sunshine and lollipops I love the line about how not drinking alcohol might help fans lose a few pounds
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TheBigAristotle posted:An ESPNFC writer gets a free trip to Qatar, says it's great and the 2022 WC will be sunshine and lollipops If you didn't think ESPNFC was poo poo before...
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TheBigAristotle posted:An ESPNFC writer gets a free trip to Qatar, says it's great and the 2022 WC will be sunshine and lollipops Man, that is really really embarrassing. I cant believe it got past an editor. I wonder how many rolexes he got to write that. The part about the literal slavery is especially cringe-worthy. It's essentially "sure there's slavery, but it's mean to say nasty things about slavery, and I'm sure these Qatari bad assets will fix it". On another note, I thought non-Muslims were allowed to drink in Qatar? I think there's a drinking license you can get.
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blue footed boobie posted:On another note, I thought non-Muslims were allowed to drink in Qatar? I think there's a drinking license you can get. I believe this is true but there's also a very limited number of places that are allowed to sell it. Apparently this is supposed to change during the World Cup but who knows
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It's extra sad that the writer was Phil Ball, who I respected until now. He wrote an excellent cultural history of Spanish football called Morbo.
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T. Finninho posted:They've pulled the article For those who missed it: http://pdfcast.org/pdf/give-qatar-a-chance
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CaptainRightful posted:It's extra sad that the writer was Phil Ball, who I respected until now. He wrote an excellent cultural history of Spanish football called Morbo. I'm pretty sure he wrote his own wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Ball_(writer) All of his sources are just his ESPNsoccernet articles
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I enjoy him screaming all over his twitter account that his article was "balanced."
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CubanMissile posted:I enjoy him screaming all over his twitter account that his article was "balanced." Newsflash, professional journo Phil Ball, but "balanced" isn't as important as "truthful"
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Akbar posted:Newsflash, professional journo Phil Ball, but "balanced" isn't as important as "truthful" It was balanced against the weight of all the gold watches he received.
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Good times...soccer player can finally leave Qatar after labor dispute. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/28/s...6219600000&_r=0
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pointsofdata posted:Are all the players at the world cup going to have to get exit visa when it finishes? They will all be signed by Qatari teams of course.
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Gigi Galli posted:They will all be signed by Qatari teams of course. They'll still earn less than Januzaj.
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Hey, if this is the Sepp Blatter Ruins Football thread, can it also be the Michel Platini Tries to Ruin Football thread? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25235277 quote:European football chief Michel Platini has called for yellow cards to be replaced by a sin-bin. 
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What happens if a goalie gets a yellow? 10 minute substitution of an outfield player for the backup goalie, what if he gets a yellow then?
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DickEmery posted:What happens if a goalie gets a yellow? 
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