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Fluo
May 25, 2007

Rhandhali posted:

You do if you live in a city like New Orleans where they still haven't figured out how to build roads yet. There are holes in the roads bigger than a hatchback, conditions which are considered normal and acceptable.



I guess America is hosed then, keep guzzling the gas and not repairing your roads. :smith:




http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/how-low-are-us-taxes-compared-to-other-countries/267148/

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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Rhandhali posted:

You do if you live in a city like New Orleans where they still haven't figured out how to build roads yet. There are holes in the roads bigger than a hatchback, conditions which are considered normal and acceptable.



Those darn New Orleans engineers really need to figure out how to design roads properly! I certainly refuse to blame pervasive inadequate soil conditions or maintenance prioritization for stormwater mitigation infrastructure.

No, they're just lazy about roads.



That's I-10 during hurricane Isaac last year; specifically the elevated section just before LaPlace - water is overtopping around 30 ft high or so.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
Infrastructure isn't a priority in the South because it costs tax money. Don't take it personally when it's pointed out that the road suck as a consequence.

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

Rhandhali posted:

You do if you live in a city like New Orleans where they still haven't figured out how to build roads yet. There are holes in the roads bigger than a hatchback, conditions which are considered normal and acceptable.



Yes, or maybe it's due to soil conditions, such as expansive clays which are endemic to the South.

In Mississippi, we have something calling Yazoo clay. It's one of the most expansive clays in the world. When it gets wet, it expands in size. A lot.





When it rains (which is basically every day), any roads or buildings ontop of this clay are going to get damaged.





We've generally stopped building buildings on top of it at this point, but with roads, there's not much to be done about when it's a lens that extends a hundred miles at the surface and underlies most of the state.





Anyway, for that reason, we have to rebuild our roads every year.





I don't know this part for a fact, but I'm going to assume Louisiana, especially South Louisiana, is not ideal, geologically, for roads, and not that the engineers are all just lazy.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
POSTERS LOCAL 42069




Clapping Larry
There's a limited amount of compensation you can build into / under your structure when you're building on top of shrink-swell clays but hey guess what most of them are expensive so welp.



drat you smectite!

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

Stew Man Chew posted:

There's a limited amount of compensation you can build into / under your structure when you're building on top of shrink-swell clays but hey guess what most of them are expensive so welp.



drat you smectite!

Anti-smectite.


Oh look.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
Yep; our soil conditions are some of the worst in the world. Yazoo clay is pretty bad, but I think we've got you beat with I believe is the most expansive soil in the world: Kenner Muck. It's basically layers of marsh soil that accreted over thin layers of vegetation like peat. The stuff is capable of expanding a dozen feet after a good rainfall. It's actually impressive that we're able to design anything at all that can work here for more than a few years, especially when you consider the huge amount of heavy vehicle traffic the local roads must endure from servicing one of the largest ports in the world.


Right now there's a push going on to lift the state's moratorium on permeable pavement for state roadways, in order to help make stormwater drainage cheaper. They banned it back in the 70s after trying to skimp on the bituminous binder (because the energy crisis made the stuff quite expensive at the time) which threw off the durability and caused the roadways to fail catastrophically - which here means that they fail within a few weeks at the end of their operational life.

It's really cool stuff and overall much cheaper than standard superpave asphalt when you take the drainage structures into account, but there's still quite a bit of political stigma associated with it. Recently Brad Pitt mentioned how their driveway was paved with it, so it's gotten a little positive cache which is nice:




When I was still doing my internship, my bosses made sure to harp on the highly political nature of roads. It's certainly not something they cover in school very much.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVNKNz-lc6k

relive the past before internet!!!

Misandrist Duck
Oct 22, 2012


Portraits of Americand and their guns

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Fluo posted:

You don't need a SUV to get from A to B on a road. Only countries that pay less on petrol get paid less then the US. All the countries below US in the graph you posted have lower income and or are oil rich countries. :smug:

You completely missed my point. It was only partly prices, but mostly that Americans spend a greater percent of their income on gasoline than most other nations, despite our low-ish prices. It's almost as if we have less of a choice in the US at large. Going carless in big cities is doable, but it just isn't elsewhere. I routinely have to get to locations, with more gear than can physically be strapped to a bicycle or motorcycle, at distances of 30+ miles, where public transportation does not exist. Driving an SUV around in a town with good public transport, because you think it looks cool is dumb, but owning a car in the vast majority of the US is kind of necessary if you'd like a job.

I've seen people travel farther for a business trip while staying in one state than it would be possible to travel without getting on a boat in the UK.



We do have some really badass freight rail systems, though.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

mlmp08 posted:

I've seen people travel farther for a business trip while staying in one state than it would be possible to travel without getting on a boat in the UK.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011


"public transportation in america is unfeasible" *brags about train network*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqOvBKnKdk&t=209s

Trains are great. Trains are Correct. Trains are socialism.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Forums Terrorist posted:

"public transportation in america is unfeasible" *brags about train network*

hahahaha, you realize freight and humans are different right? Freight doesn't mind sitting around in storage yards without climate control to make shipping cheaper, but humans tend to die when you do that to bring down prices. Also humans are hard to pack up in boxes and stuff. It's almost like logisticians have thought about how trains work from time to time.


Touche :downs:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
John Boehner tried to sign up for Obamacare today.



He encountered problems on the website, but successfully enrolled after a phone call to the DC Exchange.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo


This guy's twitter is the best political troll. Better even than Joementum.

peepeepants
Oct 9, 2001

I hope that after I die, people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

XyloJW posted:

Anti-smectite.


Oh look.



New Orleans’ attitude is no matter how well you engineer or build the road, it will fail because the soil is so poor. The main problem is that the soil is alluvial clay from the Mississippi that is so weak it can barely hold up it's own weight. The problem really started in the 50s during post WWII suburban expansion when slab on grade houses became desired. Before then homes were built up on stilts or stands. They dug drainage canals to stay dry which lowered the water table and built more houses that caused settlement. After a while local flooding would happen again, drainage improvements were built that led to more settlement and now everyone's foundation and road is broken.

Here is a chart from 1982 of how Kenner, an old dense cypress swamp, settled from industrial and municipal pumping then later urbanization:

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go

mlmp08 posted:

hahahaha, you realize freight and humans are different right? Freight doesn't mind sitting around in storage yards without climate control to make shipping cheaper, but humans tend to die when you do that to bring down prices. Also humans are hard to pack up in boxes and stuff. It's almost like logisticians have thought about how trains work from time to time.

What the hell are you talking about?

Also, Amtrak trains have a lower right-of-way priority than freight trains.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
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boom boom boom fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 6, 2014

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

I took Amtrak for the first time ever on Veteran's Day to DC from Richmond and it was a pleasure, even when we were delayed due to freight on the way back. Amtrak forever.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/rQDex.jpg][/img]

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:



This guy's twitter is the best political troll. Better even than Joementum.

I keep having to look him up to make sure he isn't that fake Congressman.


the night dad
Oct 23, 2006

by XyloJW
Religious services for the 25th infantry division.





Loads more on this tumblr (:nws: for hella dead dudes): http://vietnamwarera.com/

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




Stultus Maximus posted:

I keep having to look him up to make sure he isn't that fake Congressman.




I see the Reddit atheists have a few sleeper agents in place.


What I think of trainchat. :smug:

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Farecoal posted:

What the hell are you talking about?

Also, Amtrak trains have a lower right-of-way priority than freight trains.

I said we have a decent freight rail system. Forums Terrorist decided that it was hilarious that I praised freight rail but believe that in the US right now, passenger rail is laughably bad outside of specific metro areas and places like the east coast. Freight rail != passenger rail, basically. There are a lot of reasons why US industry has invested heavily in freight rail, but doesn't invest nearly as much in passenger rail. There are utterly massive double-stack rail freight rail lines all across the middle-of-nowhere west, but it's not so profitable to do that for people, for obvious reasons.

If I wanted to take a train from El Paso to Austin this next week, it would cost over 3 times as much as taking a car, and it would extend travel time by over 9 hours, not to mention convenience of choosing my own travel schedule. I've done some pretty good short hops on trains in the US, and intracity trains own. But anyway, trainchat is a bad derail.

USMC supporting relief operations in the Philippines.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

Morbidly obese Americans in 6 out of 11 photos, 10/10 would view again.

Fungah
Jul 2, 2003
Fungah! Foiled again!


quote:

"...the indiscriminate violence and punishment that U.S. Army and Marine forces under Brig. Gen. Jacob Smith are alleged to have unleashed on Samar have long stained the memory of the United States’ pacification of the Philippine Islands"

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
50 years ago tonight, a Mariachi band.



Tomorrow.... not as much fun.

Divorced And Curious
Jan 23, 2009

democracy depends on sausage sizzles

Bohemian Nights posted:

That's an interesting counter-argument to an argument no-one made




oh god it's in my hometown

rope kid
Feb 3, 2001

Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

VagueRant posted:


(These are being printed and sold for $25 a piece by a racist nutter in America who wants to stop drones enforcing Obamacare or something.)
I wonder what the first one of these "X HUNTING LICENSE LOL" items was. I remember one my grandfather had over his bar, pretty similar to this:

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Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Pretty sure you could got a license to hunt native americans early on in america's history. And you could actually do it, rather than being a joke, rather than it being a horrible joke.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnlTHvJBeP0

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

rope kid posted:

I wonder what the first one of these "X HUNTING LICENSE LOL" items was. I remember one my grandfather had over his bar, pretty similar to this:



I wonder if there are any for dastardly Spaniards?

Koalas March
May 21, 2007





Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
A bunch of day traders are passing this around. :tinfoil:

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
What utter nonsense, everyone knows it is the unfortunate white middle class man that is most disrespected in America. After all look at their popular representation in media, where they are all clowns and/or fat. Sometimes it gets so hard to watch how badly they are treated in all those shows that I have to turn off the TV. And did you know that Black people in America have their own channel but not white people? This is important for reasons I'm not able to actually voice in any coherent manner but by Jove, it bothers me immensely.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Kids in Homs, Syria, pose with the high explosive variant of the munition used in the August 21st Sarin attack in Damascus.



This munition was pretty much unknown until the attack, and I've found myself in the unusual position of probably having gathered more information and data on this munition than anyone else outside of Syria (assuming they didn't have Russian or Iranian friends help them design it).

So far I've documented 8 separate examples of the chemical variant of these munitions at the scene of the August 21st attack, carrying an estimated 400+ litres of liquid Sarin.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Deceitful Penguin posted:

What utter nonsense, everyone knows it is the unfortunate white middle class man that is most disrespected in America. After all look at their popular representation in media, where they are all clowns and/or fat. Sometimes it gets so hard to watch how badly they are treated in all those shows that I have to turn off the TV. And did you know that Black people in America have their own channel but not white people? This is important for reasons I'm not able to actually voice in any coherent manner but by Jove, it bothers me immensely.


It's true, which is why we need good White Christians to defend us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npd4b5lbUPk

Danish People's Party candidate has strange ideas about how to sell his candidacy. (Un)fortunately, the English subtitles are really loving weird, but I think people can guess what kind of stuff they're saying.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Volkerball posted:

A bunch of day traders are passing this around. :tinfoil:



Those are some excellent axis scales. Those always make for the most convincing graphs.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


This is chilling.

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Nov 19, 2006

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