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hehateme
Jul 29, 2013

Kaneda! What do you see?

I think you could tighten up the kerning (space between letters) on the JAWS text, especially between the A and the W. If you look at the original poster the kerning was very tight.

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Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
- I had no idea what it was for at first glance.
- You cut out the star of the movie and made the other characters unrecognizable.
- Kern that text. JA WS

Hell, the Jaws poster is so iconic you could take it, remove ALL the text, and stick the location + date + time on it and nothing else.

KillerWalls
Aug 4, 2013

Yip Yips posted:

- I had no idea what it was for at first glance.
- You cut out the star of the movie and made the other characters unrecognizable.
- Kern that text. JA WS

Hell, the Jaws poster is so iconic you could take it, remove ALL the text, and stick the location + date + time on it and nothing else.

This man is very correct.

The poster lacks a distinct hierarchy of content and imagery . There is also a lot of disorganized reading that sends me right off the page at the bottom without any kind of visual reward. You should definitely take a simplified approach to this. This film is ultra-iconic and you can really get away with a really simplified design as Yip said. When I first started designing I always put way too much content into my designs without a real care for white space. So don't worry, you're still on track.

PS: I see you mentioned creating this in PS and that you were in high school. You should consider creating the image portion in PS and moving over to InDesign or Illustrator for type setting it. It's a great way to start getting yourself used to cross-application designing. If you end up going to school for design or start freelancing you will want to have basic knowledge of all three programs, and each ones strengths and weaknesses.

spider wisdom
Nov 4, 2011

og data bandit
Yeah the W + A relationship always sticks out when it's not taken care of. Also decent tracking in general.



:argh:

rossthebern
Feb 17, 2004
I need advice on a label design that I'm having made for a car polish. The designer has submitted two labels to me so far. I have some opinions but I want to hear anything and everything you think about it first and how it could be better--don't hold back.

Label 1: http://i.imgur.com/VGXDXqN.png
Label 2: http://i.imgur.com/OcFQ3b1.png

Thank You!

raging bullwinkle
Jun 15, 2011
Posting up another designer's work for critique is a faux pas. What matters now is not the opinions of others, but whether it fits the brief you both decided on.

Pro tip: the best way to find a designer to work with is to look at their portfolio. Do you like the work they've done in the past? If you don't, then don't hire them.

The fastest way to turn a designer's life into a living hell is to recruit strangers to critique their work into oblivion.

The client from hell posted:

My wife wants more circles.
My husband says it doesn’t hit him in the gut.
My kids say there are too many words.
My dog didn’t wag its tail.
The waiter said he’s seen something just like that in France.
I need more oopmh in it.
I’ll know it when I see it. So go back and make more.
I love what _____ did. Can you do the same, but with carrots?

Disreputable Dog
Dec 16, 2010

rossthebern posted:

I need advice on a label design that I'm having made for a car polish. The designer has submitted two labels to me so far. I have some opinions but I want to hear anything and everything you think about it first and how it could be better--don't hold back.

Label 1: http://i.imgur.com/VGXDXqN.png
Label 2: http://i.imgur.com/OcFQ3b1.png

Thank You!

Label 1.

I mean, they're almost the same, but there's too much poo poo going on in the background of #2.

Fix up the copy in the bottom of the front label too.
"Protects against...." has a bunch of weird capitalization going on in it.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Make it red, make it blue, make it a pony.

rossthebern
Feb 17, 2004

raging bullwinkle posted:

Posting up another designer's work for critique is a faux pas. What matters now is not the opinions of others, but whether it fits the brief you both decided on.

Pro tip: the best way to find a designer to work with is to look at their portfolio. Do you like the work they've done in the past? If you don't, then don't hire them.

The fastest way to turn a designer's life into a living hell is to recruit strangers to critique their work into oblivion.

Thanks for the tip. I'm kind of new to this stuff so I'm glad you pointed that out, and now I'll keep that in mind.

This designer was working for me, submitting these draft designs for the purpose of receiving my feedback, to improve them to the point where they would ideally be good enough to use. Since I have no design or artistic skills I wasn't really sure what to tell him, so I figured I'd come here and ask the pros. If it weren't for the fact that I will ultimately own the final product (and be paying a significant amount for it) I wouldn't have posted it.

rossthebern fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Dec 18, 2013

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Hey thread :)

I'm updating my portfolio and I'm going through old logo designs I made. I made this one a long time ago, and I was really happy with it then, but I'm suffering from "ive been looking at this too long" syndrome, and i wanted to get some feedback.


teuscher by francography, on Flickr

It was a concept for a chocolate brand, you can see their current logo here-- http://www.teuscher.com/

I wanted it to have a swiss typeface with a twist.

edit heres a couple other variations


teuscher3 by francography, on Flickr


teuscher2 by francography, on Flickr

somnambulist fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Dec 21, 2013

spider wisdom
Nov 4, 2011

og data bandit

I respond most favorably to the last option, without the ligatures ... those look too forced in the other options, though #2 feels the best. That said, the stylized T in the last option needs just a but more balance. It's top-heavy and the character could stand to be closer to the rest of the letters.

Some more time with #2 could make it a winner too.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



spider wisdom posted:

I respond most favorably to the last option, without the ligatures ... those look too forced in the other options, though #2 feels the best. That said, the stylized T in the last option needs just a but more balance. It's top-heavy and the character could stand to be closer to the rest of the letters.

Some more time with #2 could make it a winner too.


Thanks, i played around with the last option, lemme know your thoughts


Screen Shot 2013-12-22 at 1.12.10 AM by francography, on Flickr

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

I actually really like that option as well, although the overextended stem on the T is unnecessary and distracting in my opinion. Other than that I think it's the clear winner over your other options!

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



redcheval posted:

I actually really like that option as well, although the overextended stem on the T is unnecessary and distracting in my opinion. Other than that I think it's the clear winner over your other options!

I was going for an abstract "cross shape" (plus sign) that is really common in swiss design , but since it's not really obvious anyway, maybe ill shorten the stem a bit.

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
I think that would help with how bottom-heavy it feels to me

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.

redcheval posted:

although the overextended stem on the T is unnecessary and distracting in my opinion.
The stem/ascender on the T could be done away with entirely and balance out the overall design, although I'm still not sure what the reason is for having the swirly cross to the T (other than "it looks cool").

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Abner Assington posted:

The stem/ascender on the T could be done away with entirely and balance out the overall design, although I'm still not sure what the reason is for having the swirly cross to the T (other than "it looks cool").

It's a chocolate company, I think a soft element to the logo makes it more appealing.

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.
I agree, but it being only one character kind of isolates it from the rest of the design.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



Ok I took the feedback into consideration and i created this


teuscher by francography, on Flickr


i slimmed everything down and I balanced it out a bit. I'd like some thoughts. It needs a little love (the curve on the T isnt quite there yet) but I'm really liking it.

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
That works a lot better, imo.

unixbeard
Dec 29, 2004

I made this for a NYE party

https://vimeo.com/83001696

I'm happy with it given I only had a couple of days to do it, but I would be open to suggestions for better color usage. At the moment it just cycles through the HSB space with fixed S & B, which is just a bit boring.

Also is there a general 'post stuff you've made thread' anymore?

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



I'll mock it up on an actual box soon, but i threw together a quick mockup, I'm really starting to like it. I rounded out the R too.


teuscher_mockup2 by francography, on Flickr

somnambulist fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Dec 31, 2013

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

I've been doing some gig posters for my friends' band. Really my only feedback is the band themselves, so I'm interested in some thoughts of other people. They're simple black and white, mostly uncluttered to reduce printing costs.



and another one for the same show



I'm also interested in your guys' thoughts on signing your work. Gigposters are a great medium to get a little attention, and I'd love to do this more often so I'm thinking of putting my email on these somewhere, but I don't know where or if an email is such a good idea...

le capitan
Dec 29, 2006
When the boat goes down, I'll be driving

WASDF posted:

I'm also interested in your guys' thoughts on signing your work. Gigposters are a great medium to get a little attention, and I'd love to do this more often so I'm thinking of putting my email on these somewhere, but I don't know where or if an email is such a good idea...

I'd sign it and have a website or fbook or behance that has a bunch of your posters on it so when people google your name they'll find you.

WASDF
Jul 29, 2011

le capitan posted:

I'd sign it and have a website or fbook or behance that has a bunch of your posters on it so when people google your name they'll find you.

Thanks. I'm thinking of making a Behance account. It sounds real useful.

Arthus
Nov 11, 2011

SansUnicorn

WASDF posted:

Thanks. I'm thinking of making a Behance account. It sounds real useful.

Do mind that getting hits through Behance is 90% presentation, usually people don't care much about designs as long as they have slick presentation stills. If you use it as a medium to promote your work, be selective and showcase it in a special way. For your no-nonsense b/w prints I think on-laction shots, or at least showcasing the method of spreading could be an added bonus.

The strengths of your posters lie in their simplicity and usage of being 'cheap' so be sure to stress it in presentation as well, it will attract potential clients much easier.

Vilgefartz
Apr 29, 2013

Good ideas 4 free
Fun Shoe
I'm helping my mate build a website to sell guitar pedals, so he can step his business up a notch.

Can anyone tell me what they think of the images so far? I'm not terribly experienced doing graphic design and i'd love to make sure i'm not driving any potential customers away with shithouse design.

http://matt-larkin.4ormat.com/#1

le capitan
Dec 29, 2006
When the boat goes down, I'll be driving

Eastdrom posted:

I'm helping my mate build a website to sell guitar pedals, so he can step his business up a notch.

Can anyone tell me what they think of the images so far? I'm not terribly experienced doing graphic design and i'd love to make sure i'm not driving any potential customers away with shithouse design.

http://matt-larkin.4ormat.com/#1

They look good! Nice and clean.
I'm guessing you're selling to the younger crowd based on the names and the colors on the pedals. So that spray drip on the o's works and ties in well with that market.

Vilgefartz
Apr 29, 2013

Good ideas 4 free
Fun Shoe

le capitan posted:

They look good! Nice and clean.
I'm guessing you're selling to the younger crowd based on the names and the colors on the pedals. So that spray drip on the o's works and ties in well with that market.

I honestly couldn't tell you what demographic he's appealing to but if it works it works. The spray was pretty much the only way i could make the text unique without overdoing it with random poo poo. Thanks for the critique!

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Eastdrom posted:

I'm helping my mate build a website to sell guitar pedals, so he can step his business up a notch.

Can anyone tell me what they think of the images so far? I'm not terribly experienced doing graphic design and i'd love to make sure i'm not driving any potential customers away with shithouse design.

http://matt-larkin.4ormat.com/#1

The design itself is alright, if a little stale, but that font simply doesn't work for the body copy. The kerning is wack and the extra bulk on some letters, especially t, throws off the flow of the words. Also I assume the final web layout will be different, but it doesn't scale at all properly. On a really small resolution it cuts off the bottom of the image in the header, and on a huge resolution it cuts off the top of the header image somehow.

I'd personally go without the spray effect on the letters, because you don't always need to make things 'unique', especially if your going with a pretty clean layout otherwise. If you do keep it, it'd look much better if you did a bit more to it than having the same spray on the letter O every time it's there.

You've definitely got a starting point to work from though.

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
Not exactly in the spirit of the topic but man do I hate the new PayPal logo.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
Sort of related to to the thread, can anyone in here remember off the top of their head examples of this recent trend where you do a big thin X and have 4 letters or words going around it?
I've seen it what feels like hundreds of times recently between magazines, clothing lines, music etc. also a friend just 'came up' with it, and claims to have never seen it before.
and I cant remember where i've seen it. every time I do see it though it's a new one, on a different product. it's like this but with even spacing:
code:
\ u /
f\ /c 
 / \
/ k \

cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 22:06 on May 6, 2014

Creepy Goat
Sep 19, 2010



Please make him see how played-out and unoriginal it is, every time one of those logos in shared on my behance a part of me dies. You can literally buy packs of X logos as PSDs with editable letters in photoshop.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
thank you!

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

u dummy http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/new_logo_and_identity_for_2013_brand_new_conference_by_underconsideration.php

MrSaturn
Sep 8, 2004

Go ahead, laugh. They all laugh at first...
That whole post makes me so annoyed. I feel like that's the idea, but still.... I hate the idea.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
ha. I sent him this link too - http://yourlogoisnothardcore.tumblr.com/

love how there are generators for it too. like drawing a cross out of thin lines is too hard.

cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 18:30 on May 7, 2014

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
Go next level with it and use a 3 line cross. I'll show them who's hardcore.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

cubicle gangster posted:

Sort of related to to the thread, can anyone in here remember off the top of their head examples of this recent trend where you do a big thin X and have 4 letters or words going around it?
I've seen it what feels like hundreds of times recently between magazines, clothing lines, music etc. also a friend just 'came up' with it, and claims to have never seen it before.
and I cant remember where i've seen it. every time I do see it though it's a new one, on a different product. it's like this but with even spacing:
code:
\ u /
f\ /c 
 / \
/ k \

Part of me thinks that it's some subconscious infiltration of the FEMA "X-code" search assessment markings people saw around Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina.


You can see them in practice at this exhibition that analyzes the etymology and cultural impact of the X-code in the aftermath of Katrina.

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Morpheus
Apr 18, 2008

My favourite little monsters
Hey, so, I have never been anywhere near decent at creative design or anything of the like. That said, I wanted to do something for my friend - he runs a lot of Pathfinder and D&D campaigns for us nerds, and I wanted to repay him for his hard work. So I took his homemade critical deck (written in pencil on index cards), which he used to draw random effects if the player rolls a 1 or 20, and am currently trying to make it into a decent-looking deck using online services. What I have so far is the following:

Fronts
Critical Miss example:


Critical Hit example:



These, I'm more or less happy with. I'm betting keen eyes can find all sorts of problems with them, but I just posted them to show the general theme I'm going for.

What I'm stuck on is the back of the card, ie what the person will see before they're drawn. I've made general designs, but the more I look at them the more I dislike them, but I just can't put my finger on why. They're just lifeless and I don't really know what to do for it. I think adding black outline to the text might help, though trying to do that in Gimp is kind of odd (I tried using photoshop for three hours, couldn't figure out poo poo).

Backs:



Like I said, I have no experience in designing anything artistic in the slightest. Also I almost never venture into CC, so if there's a better thread for this, I'd love to hear where.

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