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That Jag was amazing. One day I shall make the pilgrimage to Goodwood and see this insanity with my own eyes.
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I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe09i9Vmpk
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 18:02 |
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MrChips posted:I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial: Made me want to buy a tractor. As I only have 1/4 acre it'll be hard to justify though.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 21:23 |
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James Courtney almost dies in V8 Supercars That's some terrible intrusion. I have more of a NASCAR background (obviously) and while that's a hard hit, that's small potatoes in the oval racing world. Seems they need to refine that side protection some. Lucky, lucky dude. e- NASCAR comparison Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Nov 23, 2013 |
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VikingSkull posted:James Courtney almost dies in V8 Supercars drat... That's a bit scary.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 22:38 |
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VikingSkull posted:
I don't know that it's much of a comparison. Take a NASCAR, get all 4 wheels off the ground, and slam just the corner of it into the driver's door of another at that speed. I think it'd buckle also. You can't compare a head on into Armco.
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 23:05 |
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Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam. That X-brace is really dumb and they probably need to get rid of doors on those things. There's a much larger area for a car to intrude on. Regardless of whether the comparison is accurate, that cage failed and didn't do its job.
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Kill-9 posted:I don't know that it's much of a comparison. Take a NASCAR, get all 4 wheels off the ground, and slam just the corner of it into the driver's door of another at that speed. I think it'd buckle also. You can't compare a head on into Armco. I think the comparison he's making is the second impact on Gordon's car - it looked pretty head-on into the driver's door. EFB
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# ? Nov 23, 2013 23:27 |
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VikingSkull posted:Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam. I agree, the cage failed. Anyone can see that. In the Gordon crash it looks to me more like a blow to the fender/tire/firewall area which absorbed most of the impact, not the dead middle of the driver's door. It's a design choice/requirement due to the regs to have cars that look like real road cars with doors that open. They did change the design in the latest revision to move the drivers more inboard. If he'd been in the older design I would have expected Courtney to be dead. It still amazes me he was able to walk away. I hope they don't go to welded/fake doors. I'm still a romantic about the idea of a body that's essentially the same as one you can drive off a lot on Monday after the races. Well, that's not really true after the intro of the New Generation cars this year I suppose. Also, the winner doing donuts after the race with the door hanging open just looks cooler.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 04:36 |
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MrChips posted:I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial: This rules real hard.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 07:13 |
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VikingSkull posted:Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam. I'm reading what you wrote and frankly you are misrepresenting the crashes and what V8Supercar door brace actually is and how strong it is. There is in fact more than just the X-Brace for side intrusion AND the X-Brace that is FIA legal is no longer four sections welded together - it is two sections that are joined at the middle, with an additional piece under the join to the third sill bar. Under FIA testing this has been shown to be as strong or stronger than the three parrallel bars that is the alternate approach. There are also other approaches as well like this design that is used, which clearly is not X-Brace. http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/12/02/1226211/944134-car-of-the-future.jpg (Note- what you dont see is the sill brace and floor cross brace) The NASCAR crash is also clearly NOT a narrow point of impact on the door only. The energy is spread out into other areas and lower down. Under those conditions I would expect the V8Supercar cage to perform similarly or better as the cage is designed to handle such an impact. The crash clearly exceeded the cage's parameters but looking at it, the problem is the height of the initial point of impact. On a three or four bar parrallel design, this would mean that just like the Courtney crash, the initial absorption of energy is being done by only one or two bars, and given the finite amount of energy a bar can withstand before failure, I can pretty much state that a similar failure would have occured. In the photos of the aftermath, it is clear the lower intrusion bar was not involved in absorbing crash energy, leaving only two bars to take the force. And also, another view of another design http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H-eHO2OBxY/TtuvgcQpMJI/AAAAAAAABZo/63QBEl_y6iE/s1600/rollcage3.jpg This one clearly shows the B-Pillar is there to protect the driver, which is the safest route I can think of - the cross bracing is perfect. The limbs are potentially exposed on the case of a centre failure but the torso is not. Gordon's impact was more forward to a part of the car that on both chassis is much reinforced and crossbraced to the other side of the car, which is the ONLY way you could have stopped a cage failure. There's this problem on both cages that there's a driver there, so thence a narrow impact point BETWEEN A and B pillars is a known problem on any cage design, usually this is seen on rally cars hitting trees. And to be quite blunt, NASCAR cages can not be made FIA legal, so please dont go on about NASCAR cages or designs being better. It's bullshit but I understand why this is the case. NASCAR cages are designed for certain impacts, FIA cages are designed for certain impacts, get them both outside their design parameters or come up with a very rare hit, they will fail.
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# ? Nov 24, 2013 11:20 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGQkkh_IA_I Onboard cam of a slight blower malfunction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5iN_MobJio From the stands.
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 11:10 |
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That's probably the cleanest blow I've ever seen. It barely even touched the pavement.
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 12:59 |
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Senorita Stinkers posted:That's probably the cleanest blow I've ever seen. It barely even touched the pavement. Load bearing fuel lines.
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 13:20 |
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Those are some tough rear end fuel lines. What bizarre Oceanic commuter car did that used to be?
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 18:24 |
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Jay Leno features one of the most beautiful cars ever made, the Maserati A6G-2000 Allemano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlB1m9GRArI Just look at it, it's gorgeous
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 21:39 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Those are some tough rear end fuel lines. Well, it is a fifth generation Toyota Corolla (e80).
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# ? Nov 26, 2013 21:59 |
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Uh oh, car rolling off lift, almost caught it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_if7FAzV4
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# ? Nov 27, 2013 04:39 |
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Cat Terrist posted:<roll cage stuff> I think all you needed to say was the two classes of motorsport cannot be compared because Supercars are far more production vehicle based and as they have driver changes they are required to be able to enter/exit via functioning doors unlike NASCAR (and conversely, like a billion other touring car and GT categories around the world)
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# ? Nov 27, 2013 08:57 |
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Seriously, isn't NASCAR pretty rare among the factory-silhouette-based series (though I use that term loosely) in having no doors?
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# ? Nov 27, 2013 12:28 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Uh oh, car rolling off lift, almost caught it. Awe snap, almost had it. If he had just gotten his legs planted firmly and not wussed out and stepped backwards he'd have totally "caught it" and saved the day. Probably some paperwork too.
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# ? Nov 27, 2013 19:01 |
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Since this deals with controlled explosions, definitely needs to be in AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5vVmwsLtCo
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# ? Nov 28, 2013 00:12 |
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I feel like I just got put on an NSA watch list for watching that.
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# ? Nov 28, 2013 20:01 |
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Don't worry, everyone is on a NSA watch list
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# ? Nov 28, 2013 21:50 |
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The slow speed crashes are always the worst: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--ub7D38ts
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# ? Nov 30, 2013 00:48 |
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JingleBells posted:The slow speed crashes are always the worst: I love how it looks to have just been dry-stack. Probably just brittle with age.
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# ? Nov 30, 2013 02:48 |
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After the wall that was struck collapses, you can see straight through the building so I am thinking it was pretty dilapidated to begin with....
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# ? Nov 30, 2013 04:15 |
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JingleBells posted:The slow speed crashes are always the worst: This guy's channel is pretty great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjPkKD1xrY
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# ? Nov 30, 2013 21:42 |
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This is Water Transfer Printing AKA Hydrographics and Im freaking out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuXyeAGzEU&t=77s Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Preoptopus posted:This is Water Transfer Printing AKA Hydrographics and Im freaking out. How the hell is this magic done?!?!
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 03:01 |
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Cat Terrist posted:How the hell is this magic done?!?! Uses a special type of vinyl alcohol film that you float on the water and it basically dissolves via a spray that's also a bonding agent and you lower whatever is getting the graphics "through" the film and voila.
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 03:12 |
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Way to ruin the magic
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 03:15 |
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Cat Terrist posted:How the hell is this magic done?!?! They have another video that shows the whole process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADq96RGRf00
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 07:44 |
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I think that's all an elaborate lie and Harry Potter is hiding off camera.
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 09:45 |
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Preoptopus posted:Way to ruin the magic Even with the explaination it still may as well be magic or science from Asgard.
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 11:41 |
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They can apply graphics to plastics, metals, fiberglass, wood and...
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 20:20 |
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Want to dip my helmet... need to find someone that does this. e: Oh sweet, found a place to do it for $75 See More Butts fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Want to dip my helmet... need to find someone that does this. smaller helmets
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# ? Dec 6, 2013 22:03 |
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It's winter. Go do donuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzi9B3PR6eo
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# ? Dec 8, 2013 07:38 |