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Imp Boy
Feb 8, 2004
That Jag was amazing. One day I shall make the pilgrimage to Goodwood and see this insanity with my own eyes.

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MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe09i9Vmpk

Kill-9
Aug 2, 2004

You've got the cutest little baby face...

MrChips posted:

I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe09i9Vmpk

Made me want to buy a tractor. As I only have 1/4 acre it'll be hard to justify though.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
James Courtney almost dies in V8 Supercars

That's some terrible intrusion. I have more of a NASCAR background (obviously) and while that's a hard hit, that's small potatoes in the oval racing world. Seems they need to refine that side protection some.

Lucky, lucky dude.

e- NASCAR comparison

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Nov 23, 2013

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


VikingSkull posted:

James Courtney almost dies in V8 Supercars

That's some terrible intrusion. I have more of a NASCAR background (obviously) and while that's a hard hit, that's small potatoes in the oval racing world. Seems they need to refine that side protection some.

Lucky, lucky dude.

e- NASCAR comparison

drat...




That's a bit scary.

Kill-9
Aug 2, 2004

You've got the cutest little baby face...

VikingSkull posted:


That's some terrible intrusion. I have more of a NASCAR background (obviously) and while that's a hard hit, that's small potatoes in the oval racing world. Seems they need to refine that side protection some.

Lucky, lucky dude.

e- NASCAR comparison

I don't know that it's much of a comparison. Take a NASCAR, get all 4 wheels off the ground, and slam just the corner of it into the driver's door of another at that speed. I think it'd buckle also. You can't compare a head on into Armco.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam.

That X-brace is really dumb and they probably need to get rid of doors on those things. There's a much larger area for a car to intrude on.

Regardless of whether the comparison is accurate, that cage failed and didn't do its job.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Kill-9 posted:

I don't know that it's much of a comparison. Take a NASCAR, get all 4 wheels off the ground, and slam just the corner of it into the driver's door of another at that speed. I think it'd buckle also. You can't compare a head on into Armco.

I think the comparison he's making is the second impact on Gordon's car - it looked pretty head-on into the driver's door.

EFB

Kill-9
Aug 2, 2004

You've got the cutest little baby face...

VikingSkull posted:

Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam.

That X-brace is really dumb and they probably need to get rid of doors on those things. There's a much larger area for a car to intrude on.

Regardless of whether the comparison is accurate, that cage failed and didn't do its job.

I agree, the cage failed. Anyone can see that.

In the Gordon crash it looks to me more like a blow to the fender/tire/firewall area which absorbed most of the impact, not the dead middle of the driver's door.

It's a design choice/requirement due to the regs to have cars that look like real road cars with doors that open. They did change the design in the latest revision to move the drivers more inboard. If he'd been in the older design I would have expected Courtney to be dead. It still amazes me he was able to walk away.

I hope they don't go to welded/fake doors. I'm still a romantic about the idea of a body that's essentially the same as one you can drive off a lot on Monday after the races. Well, that's not really true after the intro of the New Generation cars this year I suppose. Also, the winner doing donuts after the race with the door hanging open just looks cooler.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

MrChips posted:

I'll admit I had a bit of a chuckle at this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe09i9Vmpk

This rules real hard.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

VikingSkull posted:

Hornish basically went into Gordon's A-pillar at a higher rate of speed, and if you look at the door designs of both a NASCAR is much, much stronger. More bars, more bracing, energy absorbing foam.

That X-brace is really dumb and they probably need to get rid of doors on those things. There's a much larger area for a car to intrude on.

Regardless of whether the comparison is accurate, that cage failed and didn't do its job.

I'm reading what you wrote and frankly you are misrepresenting the crashes and what V8Supercar door brace actually is and how strong it is. There is in fact more than just the X-Brace for side intrusion AND the X-Brace that is FIA legal is no longer four sections welded together - it is two sections that are joined at the middle, with an additional piece under the join to the third sill bar. Under FIA testing this has been shown to be as strong or stronger than the three parrallel bars that is the alternate approach. There are also other approaches as well like this design that is used, which clearly is not X-Brace.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/12/02/1226211/944134-car-of-the-future.jpg

(Note- what you dont see is the sill brace and floor cross brace)

The NASCAR crash is also clearly NOT a narrow point of impact on the door only. The energy is spread out into other areas and lower down. Under those conditions I would expect the V8Supercar cage to perform similarly or better as the cage is designed to handle such an impact.

The crash clearly exceeded the cage's parameters but looking at it, the problem is the height of the initial point of impact. On a three or four bar parrallel design, this would mean that just like the Courtney crash, the initial absorption of energy is being done by only one or two bars, and given the finite amount of energy a bar can withstand before failure, I can pretty much state that a similar failure would have occured. In the photos of the aftermath, it is clear the lower intrusion bar was not involved in absorbing crash energy, leaving only two bars to take the force.

And also, another view of another design

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H-eHO2OBxY/TtuvgcQpMJI/AAAAAAAABZo/63QBEl_y6iE/s1600/rollcage3.jpg

This one clearly shows the B-Pillar is there to protect the driver, which is the safest route I can think of - the cross bracing is perfect. The limbs are potentially exposed on the case of a centre failure but the torso is not.

Gordon's impact was more forward to a part of the car that on both chassis is much reinforced and crossbraced to the other side of the car, which is the ONLY way you could have stopped a cage failure. There's this problem on both cages that there's a driver there, so thence a narrow impact point BETWEEN A and B pillars is a known problem on any cage design, usually this is seen on rally cars hitting trees.

And to be quite blunt, NASCAR cages can not be made FIA legal, so please dont go on about NASCAR cages or designs being better. It's bullshit but I understand why this is the case. NASCAR cages are designed for certain impacts, FIA cages are designed for certain impacts, get them both outside their design parameters or come up with a very rare hit, they will fail.

Lurch
Mar 5, 2010

by Lowtax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGQkkh_IA_I
Onboard cam of a slight blower malfunction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5iN_MobJio
From the stands.

Corey Plumper
Nov 22, 2008

That's probably the cleanest blow I've ever seen. It barely even touched the pavement.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Senorita Stinkers posted:

That's probably the cleanest blow I've ever seen. It barely even touched the pavement.

Load bearing fuel lines.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Those are some tough rear end fuel lines.

What bizarre Oceanic commuter car did that used to be?

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Jay Leno features one of the most beautiful cars ever made, the Maserati A6G-2000 Allemano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlB1m9GRArI

Just look at it, it's gorgeous :swoon:

tobu
Aug 20, 2004

Bunny-Bee makes me happy!

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Those are some tough rear end fuel lines.

What bizarre Oceanic commuter car did that used to be?

Well, it is a fifth generation Toyota Corolla (e80).

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Uh oh, car rolling off lift, almost caught it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_if7FAzV4

ROFLBOT
Apr 1, 2005

Cat Terrist posted:

<roll cage stuff>

I think all you needed to say was the two classes of motorsport cannot be compared because Supercars are far more production vehicle based and as they have driver changes they are required to be able to enter/exit via functioning doors unlike NASCAR (and conversely, like a billion other touring car and GT categories around the world)

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Seriously, isn't NASCAR pretty rare among the factory-silhouette-based series (though I use that term loosely) in having no doors?

Modus Man
Jun 8, 2004



Soiled Meat

Throatwarbler posted:

Uh oh, car rolling off lift, almost caught it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL_if7FAzV4

Awe snap, almost had it. If he had just gotten his legs planted firmly and not wussed out and stepped backwards he'd have totally "caught it" and saved the day. Probably some paperwork too.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Since this deals with controlled explosions, definitely needs to be in AI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5vVmwsLtCo

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
I feel like I just got put on an NSA watch list for watching that.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Don't worry, everyone is on a NSA watch list :v:

JingleBells
Jan 7, 2007

Oh what fun it is to see the Harriers win away!

The slow speed crashes are always the worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--ub7D38ts

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

JingleBells posted:

The slow speed crashes are always the worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--ub7D38ts

I love how it looks to have just been dry-stack. Probably just brittle with age.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
After the wall that was struck collapses, you can see straight through the building so I am thinking it was pretty dilapidated to begin with....

yyyyyy
Jan 13, 2013

by T. Finninho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GXJuEpGjH8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RomIj7ntb8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UfePbZKSlc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJJeukIWSA

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

JingleBells posted:

The slow speed crashes are always the worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G--ub7D38ts

This guy's channel is pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjPkKD1xrY

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
This is Water Transfer Printing AKA Hydrographics and Im freaking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuXyeAGzEU&t=77s

Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 6, 2013

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Preoptopus posted:

This is Water Transfer Printing AKA Hydrographics and Im freaking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKuXyeAGzEU&t=77s

How the hell is this magic done?!?!

a glorious hole
Nov 21, 2012

Cat Terrist posted:

How the hell is this magic done?!?!

Uses a special type of vinyl alcohol film that you float on the water and it basically dissolves via a spray that's also a bonding agent and you lower whatever is getting the graphics "through" the film and voila.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
Way to ruin the magic :(

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Cat Terrist posted:

How the hell is this magic done?!?!

They have another video that shows the whole process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADq96RGRf00

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
I think that's all an elaborate lie and Harry Potter is hiding off camera.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Preoptopus posted:

Way to ruin the magic :(

Even with the explaination it still may as well be magic or science from Asgard.

bung
Dec 14, 2004

They can apply graphics to plastics, metals, fiberglass, wood and...

See More Butts
Dec 29, 2004



Want to dip my helmet... need to find someone that does this.

e: Oh sweet, found a place to do it for $75

See More Butts fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 6, 2013

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Bumming Your Scene posted:

Want to dip my helmet... need to find someone that does this.

e: Oh sweet, found a place to do it for $75

smaller helmets

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Doccers
Aug 15, 2000


Patron Saint of Chickencheese
It's winter.


Go do donuts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzi9B3PR6eo

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