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Years ago, somebody from this thread photoshopped the D in where the E would be in First Contact, and I don't want anyone to ever find that picture again and post it or I will be saddened by what might have been.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The E looks really cool in movies. It's like, the D was all rounded and smooth, just like the largely vanilla, harmless Starfleet we see there. But the E is angular and aggressive, just like Dune Buggies and Plasma Floods and Forcibly Relocating Native Populations. I think that's a lot of why people hate the E, is that it's so strongly associated with the terrible movies it was in. It would have been nice to see at least one in DS9 during the dominion war, or something, since it would go well with the themes of the Dominion War and would have saved it from being so strongly associated with Action Movie Trek, but I imagine that at the time, they wanted it to be exclusively associated with the movies.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:07
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Kazy posted:I don't see how anyone can like the E. Others, maybe, but Galaxy Class all the way. I like the E. She's long and lean.  Not to say that there were some poor design choices, ribs on the underside of the saucer and weirdness on the top, but overall she's a nice looking ship.  I mean, look at that. Plus, she's the best Federation ship in STO.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:08
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kelvron posted:Plus, she's the best Federation ship in STO. I wish I could have kept my Galaxy-class 
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Nov 25, 2013 02:18
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Farecoal posted:I wish I could have kept my Galaxy-class You can reclaim it.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:19
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kelvron posted:Plus, she's the best Federation ship in STO. The Excelsior would like a word with you.  (Although technically I think the Avenger is really the winner right now but gently caress that)
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Nov 25, 2013 02:19
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MikeJF posted:I like to imagine the design concerns of Starfleet would be similar to the design concerns of the people who made the new Winterover station at the South Pole.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:25
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MikeJF posted:The Excelsior would like a word with you. You're right, I forgot about the noble Fartcelsior. But the Fleet Sovereign is neck and neck with it. As is the faux-Vengence Avenger.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:30
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kelvron posted:You're right, I forgot about the noble Fartcelsior. But the Fleet Sovereign is neck and neck with it. The Excelsior pulls ahead with sheer class.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:34
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MikeJF posted:The Excelsior pulls ahead with sheer class. You have a funny way of spelling suck. Never cared for the Excelsior class. Miranda all the way!
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Nov 25, 2013 02:38
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Trickjaw posted:You can reclaim it. Reclaim it?
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Nov 25, 2013 02:40
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Oberth or bust.
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Nov 25, 2013 02:44
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Oberth or bust. Enjoy your deathtrap!
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Nov 25, 2013 02:48
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Tighclops posted:Years ago, somebody from this thread photoshopped the D in where the E would be in First Contact, and I don't want anyone to ever find that picture again and post it or I will be saddened by what might have been. I'm bits really hailthefish posted:I think that's a lot of why people hate the E, is that it's so strongly associated with the terrible movies it was in. It would have been nice to see at least one in DS9 during the dominion war, or something, since it would go well with the themes of the Dominion War and would have saved it from being so strongly associated with Action Movie Trek, but I imagine that at the time, they wanted it to be exclusively associated with the movies. It reminds me too much of Voyager from the underside, plus it has those random black accents all over the saucer (they might have nixed those in Insurrection)
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Nov 25, 2013 03:04
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Mister Kingdom posted:Enjoy your deathtrap! Says the person shilling for the Miranda, the only class that has long loving camera shots of it's slow and complete destruction at the hands of the Dominion in several different episodes. I think far more Mirandas have been lost in the course of Trek then Oberths.
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Nov 25, 2013 03:04
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Best ship: Nothing better than using an old nuclear missile with a jury-rigged titanium cockpit and a broken second intake valve for the first FTL trip, while rocking out to a 1960s  song :humanity:
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Nov 25, 2013 03:05
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kelvron posted:I like the E. She's long and lean. God, I love that dip at the bottom, right before it tapers up to the nacelles. Also I just noticed the saucer is essentially the D's turned sideways.
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Nov 25, 2013 03:33
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Trickjaw posted:Wrong movie. poo poo, pardon me. I was a bit sleep deprived last night. The Final Frontier, obviously. *slaps forehead*
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Nov 25, 2013 03:34
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Alchenar posted:I think there's something in the point that when you are in a machine that travels by tearing apart the fabric of reality and putting it back together behind you that our current conceptions of utilitarian design might not be important anymore. I don't think I've heard people describe old Trek as claustrophobic before. I mean, you want cramped, there's the Nostromo, or the Millennium Falcon... or a real-life submarine. Star Trek ships are wide open in comparison. I remember people critiquing the TV show Enterprise corridors as being unrealistically big because it's a waste of space/energy. The real reason, of course, was that big corridors make it easy to roll camera dollys around.
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Nov 25, 2013 03:48
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Tighclops posted:Years ago, somebody from this thread photoshopped the D in where the E would be in First Contact, and I don't want anyone to ever find that picture again and post it or I will be saddened by what might have been. I don't think it was someone from this thread. That said, I've done you a solid and spoiler tagged the image: 
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Nov 25, 2013 04:04
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Scale on that one looks wrong. By that standard, the Defiant would almost fit in the -D's shuttlebay! I know the Defiant is a small ship, but she ain't that small!
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Nov 25, 2013 04:18
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jng2058 posted:Scale on that one looks wrong. By that standard, the Defiant would almost fit in the -D's shuttlebay! I know the Defiant is a small ship, but she ain't that small! The scale was just as wrong in the movie proper. They wanted to make the E look impressive so the Defiant was tiny.
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Nov 25, 2013 04:22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3c9wtbQTZ4
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Nov 25, 2013 04:28
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Tony Montana posted:How much do you read your microwave? Every time I use it? Do you just slap the buttons and hope for the best?
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Nov 25, 2013 04:35
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Farecoal posted:Reclaim it? If you bought your Galaxy Retrofit with actual money in the Z-Store, you can just go into the store on your character, get to the ship menu, claim it, and you'll be able to fly it again. However, if you ground emblems for it back before they got rid of emblems...well, hell, it's not like you were going to use that $25 for anything useful, right? (Also, fleet DSSV with Oracle-class hull is the best-worst ship.)
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Nov 25, 2013 05:34
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Marshal Radisic posted:If you bought your Galaxy Retrofit with actual money in the Z-Store, you can just go into the store on your character, get to the ship menu, claim it, and you'll be able to fly it again. Oh, I meant that I wish I could have kept using my tier-4 free Galaxy-class, (by upgrading the stats to to tier-5 or something) instead of being forced to upgrade to the tier-5 Sovereign class.
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Nov 25, 2013 05:46
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I liked my dustbuster/lawnmower in STO.
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Nov 25, 2013 05:52
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Commissar Ken posted:This must be a nerd thing because I do that poo poo too. Well not the Riker lines. Although in certain fitting situations when someone will go 'gimmie a minute' i'll respond with "I give ... TWO MINUTES for you and your gallant crew." poo poo, I didn't even think of that one. I'll have to keep it in mind. Finding the right context for those Riker lines would be a challenge though, yeah. Can't imagine I'll find myself in too many conversations about fake muskets or whatever in my lifetime, but should it happen, by god I'll have the perfect response for it! Tighclops posted:Years ago, somebody from this thread photoshopped the D in where the E would be in First Contact, and I don't want anyone to ever find that picture again and post it or I will be saddened by what might have been. I still kinda wish they saved the D's destruction for First Contact, and rolled in the Sovereign at the end of that movie with an Enterprise-A sort of reveal. Maybe adding a "one year later" hook or something to explain the construction time. Only downside then would be having Insurrection and Nemesis as the only two movies to show off the new ship... but hey, good excuse to make better movies!
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Nov 25, 2013 06:10
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jng2058 posted:Scale on that one looks wrong. By that standard, the Defiant would almost fit in the -D's shuttlebay! I know the Defiant is a small ship, but she ain't that small! As I recall the Defiant's scale got hosed up repeatedly. (When will Trek stop ripping off Babylon 5??  )
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Nov 25, 2013 06:41
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:As I recall the Defiant's scale got hosed up repeatedly. (When will Trek stop ripping off Babylon 5?? She isn't a tough LITTLE ship, she's as big as she (or the vfx people) need her to be,
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Nov 25, 2013 07:18
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Delsaber posted:poo poo, I didn't even think of that one. I'll have to keep it in mind. Actually I think you're on to something. If Generations had simply never happened, and First Contact had happened on the Enterprise D... that would've been a good thing. And then if they just stopped making movies there. All of this sounds good. The Whole Internet fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Nov 25, 2013 |
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Nov 25, 2013 07:20
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I missed a lot of starship talk but I can't let it go when people say nice things about the Galaxy class cuz that ship looks like rear end with its dumb flared cobra hood saucer, cats rear end in a top hat deflector dish, giant red blob impulse engine and stubby warp nacelles. It looks like the dumpy version of the Connie, which isn't that great until they made the Refit.
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Nov 25, 2013 09:06
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The Defiant is the only good Federation ship. That angry turtle pew-pew'd its way right into my heart.
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Nov 25, 2013 09:11
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Bad Moon posted:I missed a lot of starship talk but I can't let it go when people say nice things about the Galaxy class cuz that ship looks like rear end with its dumb flared cobra hood saucer, cats rear end in a top hat deflector dish, giant red blob impulse engine and stubby warp nacelles.  Here's a Youtube channel with a shitton of TNG music: http://www.youtube.com/user/doublestar87/videos Farecoal fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Nov 25, 2013 |
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Nov 25, 2013 09:22
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Man I love this thread, especially when 1st AD gets called an rear end in a top hat when Tighclops is the guys who can't stand people having different opinions about his precious StarTrax. "I don't like new shiny things!  "The D owns, only Connie worth a drat is the refit, E sucks, and JJPrise is ugly on the outside and cute on the inside.
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Nov 25, 2013 09:37
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Farecoal posted:Oh, I meant that I wish I could have kept using my tier-4 free Galaxy-class, (by upgrading the stats to to tier-5 or something) instead of being forced to upgrade to the tier-5 Sovereign class. They added endgame-tier versions of most ships, including the fleet variant of the galaxy, complete with saucer separation. They're purchased from the fleet starbase using an item that normally costs $5 each, but goons get them for free.
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Nov 25, 2013 10:21
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MikeJF posted:The scale was just as wrong in the movie proper. They wanted to make the E look impressive so the Defiant was tiny. loving up starship scales is a time-honored Star Trek tradition starting with Shatner's 100 deck Connie and continuing with the JJprise's gigantic hangar bay shot and regular Connie scale in every other shot.
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Nov 25, 2013 10:21
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Preechr posted:They added endgame-tier versions of most ships, including the fleet variant of the galaxy, complete with saucer separation. They're purchased from the fleet starbase using an item that normally costs $5 each, but goons get them for free. Fair warning, the only Enterprise-ish ship worth using in the endgame is the fleet Excelsior, which is the Enterprise-C. It's fairly pretty though, especially once you stick on all the Borg/Romulan bits and bobs and turn it into a misshapen monster.
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Nov 25, 2013 10:27
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razorrozar posted:Fair warning, the only Enterprise-ish ship worth using in the endgame is the fleet Excelsior, which is the Enterprise-C. It's fairly pretty though, especially once you stick on all the Borg/Romulan bits and bobs and turn it into a misshapen monster. Enterprise B, not C. The C is Ambassador class, which in-game is terrible. And the Fleet Sovereign Class is just as worth using as the Excelsior. Unfortunately, the Galaxy Class sucks balls, because the gamemakers don't really know how to balance their own game.
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Tony Montana posted:This is a big reason I haven't watched DS9, I just couldn't stand that Ferengi bullshit from what I saw and it gave me an 'ew, I'm watching NerdTrek' feeling. Honestly the Ferengi stuff winds up being a lot better in context since it helps carry on the character development of the supporting Ferengi supporting cast. Some of them are still stinkers though but keep an eye on Nog if you go though DS9, he undergoes a hell of a lot of character growth over the series and by the end I was actually quite fond of him despite despising him in season 1.
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