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moths posted:Did you get eight green ones and four grey? I was expecting three sets of four but the green ones are hard to tell apart. Check to see if one set is yellowish and one set is blackish.
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That's amazingly subtle, but mine do look like that upon closer inspection. I wonder if they'd originally planned to have more black and yellow swirled in. There's about 20 minutes left on Journey Wrath of Demons. It's second expansion has unlocked, but honestly I'd prefer to see if I enjoy the base game before throwing in for spider demon ladies or samurai skeletons.
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Received my copy of Battlecon: Devastation of Indines. It had already been shipped to me before I saw the creator's email that said I could hold off until the bonus stuff came in. So many components! Lots of stuff to punch out and it's high quality. I already know the base game is good, but I'm really excited to see how this dungeon crawler mode is. Can't wait for the bonus content to ship out.
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So after a delay, the HeroQuest 25th Anniversary KS is now up. Prices are in Canadian dollars, which is interesting.
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VoodooXT posted:So after a delay, the HeroQuest 25th Anniversary KS is now up. Prices are in Canadian dollars, which is interesting. Wow. I'm curious about it, but not $89 USD curious.
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Nov 26, 2013 00:45
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I haven't seen it brought up in the comments, but has anyone questioned the legality yet?
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berzerkmonkey posted:I haven't seen it brought up in the comments, but has anyone questioned the legality yet? There's definitely a thread on BGG regarding the legal issues surrounding this.
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Nov 26, 2013 01:08
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They mention a change.org petition - which isn't very reassuring in the face of one of the industries most litigious members.
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Nov 26, 2013 01:34
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Quite aside from the legality (which strikes me as extremely questionable), I'm not wild about the design of the project in general. Only the maximum tier gets stretch goals, supposedly (and that's the only thing you're paying for at that level, so the value of that tier will vary dramatically depending on how many goals they hit), but then later they list at least one goal as being for anyone getting the core set, and they say all of these things will be free addons. What? 
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It will probably be taken down in a matter of days - I unfortunately have an obligation to report it to our legal dept (though they probably already know)
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Nov 26, 2013 02:18
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Games & Gears has addressed the issue with the fantasy town battle boards. The new version can be seen in their update here. I think it looks much better, but I'm still not sure I want the fantasy one the way I want the modern one.
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Nov 26, 2013 02:28
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My copy of BattleCON arrived today. I'm pretty intimidated by all the options. Helpfully, the box includes a handout that divides all the characters and play options into six tiers of complexity. In Costume Fairy Adventures news, one of the three core Playsets has the cutest owlbear tea party. 
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Nov 26, 2013 03:16
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berzerkmonkey posted:I haven't seen it brought up in the comments, but has anyone questioned the legality yet? From the Gamezone website: "Are you still in business? (the most repeated FAQ since 2002)"
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Nov 26, 2013 04:10
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I got Devastation of Indines today! Despite being told repeatedly in the instructions, I still feel a little intimidated.  This is a big, heavy box and the components look great, easily on-par with the bigger guys. I'm really looking forward to giving this a go, I think some of my friends will really dig it.
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moths posted:I got Devastation of Indines today! Despite being told repeatedly in the instructions, I still feel a little intimidated. ugh ugh ugh I'm so tired of hearing how excited people are to get their copies in; I think this is the first Kickstarter I can remember I actually regret not backing. v v v 
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Nov 26, 2013 05:29
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edit: ^^^^^ oops. Sorry. Just got finished organizing all my Indines stuff. I was hoping there would be enough room in there to put my older cards, but no such luck. You've really got to fiddle around with the little organizing pouches to get them to fit in right, but they do. They're a bit fragile, though, and I had to tape a bunch of them. They'll get to looking pretty rough pretty quick as much as they've got to cram in there. It's possible that the tokens (which are awesome) are too thick. God this whole thing looks so good. Can't wait! Fix fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Nov 26, 2013 05:32
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What's even more surprising re: heroquest is how much they've raised in spite of the shady legality.
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Right now it's all HELL YEAH HEROQUEST! pledges, which will likely evaporate when there's a C&D or when people realize it's safer to just buy the thing if/when it comes out. I knee-jerk pledged $158 for everything a few hours ago, but I've already gone down to $1 / no reward. I want to stay subscribed to the updates, but this looks like it's going to be a mess.
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In case anyone's curious: the biggest problem is the use of the trademarked name of the game. Game rules are generally not subject to copyright, and the designers can avoid the copyrighted parts of HeroQuest by not re-using any of the artwork or flavor text. Although it looks like they've re-used the box cover artwork, at least in the kickstarter. But they are definitely attempting to sell a game under a trademarked name, and I'm guessing they're under the belief that this game name isn't trademarked in Spain, and/or in the EU, and also that they therefore won't run afoul of a lawsuit. I suspect they're either partially or entirely incorrect on the former count, and for the latter, I suspect they'll get a C&D pretty quickly and then have to weigh whether or not they've got the money to afford to fight a lawsuit. Then of course there's the question of Kickstarter potentially receiving a C&D; if they do, and I'd expect them to, I'd expect them to take down the HeroQuest KS immediately. So there's a lot to potentially go wrong here, and the organizers don't immediately appear to have an ironclad response to the above potential problems. e. Apparently, the company does hold a trademark for the name "HeroQuest" in Spain. I'm not convinced that will keep them safe, though, since they're not just copying the name HeroQuest, but also the logo. Trademark protection is not just about the letters in your product's name, it's about being protected from others "trading on" your mark. That is, selling things that a reasonable person would assume came from you, because the packaging, advertising, etc. looks too much like your own packaging, advertising, etc. Game Zone may have registered "HeroQuest" in spain, but that's not necessarily going to convince a judge, if they appear to be deliberately trying to gain sales by mimicking someone else's trademark. Then again, I don't know what the law specifically is like in Spain, and I don't know if Spain's EU membership alters that (e.g., if a Spanish company infringing on a trademark registered in the UK, Germany, etc. can be sued in Spain, or if some other EU court would have both jurisdiction, and any ability to enforce a penalty.) Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Triple-Kan posted:ugh ugh ugh I'm so tired of hearing how excited people are to get their copies in; I think this is the first Kickstarter I can remember I actually regret not backing. You can show penance by pitching into their current Kickstarter, although I have noticed that their stretch goals have shrunk a bit from their previous efforts.
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GrandpaPants posted:You can show penance by pitching into their current Kickstarter, although I have noticed that their stretch goals have shrunk a bit from their previous efforts. They explicitly stated in a couple updates for Devastation that they took on way too much work in the stretch goals, and won't be doing as many again. If nothing else, Level99 at least seems to learn well from their missteps.
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So, does anyone know what exactly Cubicle 7 is actually doing for Far West? I kind of figured their involvement meant actual fulfillment in a timely manner, but that didn't happen regardless, and the past month has just been another hilarious string of ANY DAY NOWs from Skarka.
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Went back a few pages and didn't see this mentioned yet: War & Empire - The Miniatures Game of Ancient Warfare One of my gaming friends has gotten in on this, looks to be a fairly decent range of historicals in 15mm/18mm and a ruleset (but let's face it, 15mm historicals.. there's a whole host of rules out there you could use them for) I'm tempted but there's so many decent kickstarters demanding my attention and in the run up to Christmas, money is always tighter than usual. I'm hoping heroquest doesn't fall foul of legalities, it's something I'd love to see made (and a perfect game to stash on the shelves for my kids when they're older) but it might be a case of waiting for it to go retail before throwing money at it.
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Leperflesh posted:e. Apparently, the company does hold a trademark for the name "HeroQuest" in Spain. I'm not convinced that will keep them safe, though, since they're not just copying the name HeroQuest, but also the logo. Trademark protection is not just about the letters in your product's name, it's about being protected from others "trading on" your mark. That is, selling things that a reasonable person would assume came from you, because the packaging, advertising, etc. looks too much like your own packaging, advertising, etc. Game Zone may have registered "HeroQuest" in spain, but that's not necessarily going to convince a judge, if they appear to be deliberately trying to gain sales by mimicking someone else's trademark. EDIT: I'm guessing that is probably the reason why the Kickstarter is in Canadian dollars and some of the websites are hinting towards it. MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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My brother and I played through a quick game of Devastation of Indines (arrived yesterday!), one round each with all the Novice characters. When even the most basic of the basic characters get me and my brother pumped about the game, well, it gets me excited to touch the other 90% of the content. The Novice heroes are definitely no slouches. I was initially a little worried the tiered system might mean some of the higher heroes are just up and out stronger, but then King Alexian hit the field and obliterated everything in front of him. Karin and Jager are a blast, the wolf-ally mechanic is fantastic and entirely intuitive and her cards are creative and crazy. All of the Novice heroes seemed pretty on par with each other, except for the dragon princess. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with Marmelee to really stop my opponent - Pendros walked all over her and ended the game with only 3 damage, and I feel like all the other Novices would have similar results against her. It's kinda weird how underwhelming she is when the other 5 fighters are all gloriously effective at what they want to do. I feel like I must be missing something. That said, that's only one character out of 36. I think I'll be entirely fine if she doesn't see much play. If I'm teaching people how to play for the first time and they want a Specialist type character to work with, I'll just throw Runika at them, she seems pretty cool from what I've seen, and her gimmick isn't too complicated. For those of you wondering about storage issues, I've come up with what I think is a pretty great solution. I took pics with my phone, but they're taking ages to upload because Sprint does that sometimes. I'll post pics when they are on my computer.
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I think the storage works as they intended, it's just a little tight. I divided the five flights of characters into five of the six bins and then used the sixth for the common cards, sticking the various boss fights in the same sections as the flights with which they were packaged. They could have probably spared another quarter inch of width on the bins and gotten away with it just fine. Did anyone order the little flick-duel game variant? I relented and am kinda regretting it because this dude put so much soul in here I just want to keep funneling him money.
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enri posted:Went back a few pages and didn't see this mentioned yet: berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Baron Snow posted:Games & Gears has addressed the issue with the fantasy town battle boards. The new version can be seen in their update here. Wow, I didn't pledge at first because only the fantasy boards interested me and I thought they looked butt-ugly. Never thought they'd do a 180 and redesign it. I still don't quite get these, though. From closeups they very clearly look like laser-etched wood, which I hate. But the kickstarter itself says they are hard plastic. Are they just showing prototypes made from etched wood that they will use for molds, or am I missing something here?
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Luebbi posted:I still don't quite get these, though. From closeups they very clearly look like laser-etched wood, which I hate. But the kickstarter itself says they are hard plastic. Are they just showing prototypes made from etched wood that they will use for molds, or am I missing something here? Aside from a rough spot in a sunken bit of an Anime Wars board they all look like painted plastic to me 
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DNA Cowboys posted:My copy of BattleCON arrived today. I'm pretty intimidated by all the options. Helpfully, the box includes a handout that divides all the characters and play options into six tiers of complexity. Got mine yesterday. The little envelopes for each character aren't large enough to also hold their tokens, which is kind of a downer. So I've stuck each one into a 3" by 6" ULine 2mil plastic bag. Gonna go challenge that dungeon with the vampire from the last game. Surely the best character to face huge piles of monsters is the one who has a penalty to damage on every attack!
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malkav11 posted:Quite aside from the legality (which strikes me as extremely questionable), I'm not wild about the design of the project in general. Only the maximum tier gets stretch goals, supposedly (and that's the only thing you're paying for at that level, so the value of that tier will vary dramatically depending on how many goals they hit), but then later they list at least one goal as being for anyone getting the core set, and they say all of these things will be free addons. What?
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I'm generally willing to forgive poor English mastery, even in a rulebook, but in this case it's pretty worrisome since the legal interaction is all in English...
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From the kickstarter:quote:First stretch goal rewards any pledge that includes a core set My interpretation is that all of the pledge levels will get the first stretch goal, and then only the top level will get the following subsequent stretch goals. I'm not 100% sure about that, though, and also that's kind of stupid since it means everyone will wait to see what the stretch goals are and if they get achieved, before they upgrade to the highest level, which means they won't hit as many stretch goals because everyone is holding back. Also they're saying that if you have a tier that receives stretch goals, you won't have to pay extra for them, e.g., they're not costs-you-money add-ons. Which should be obvious since you're paying extra for a tier with stretch goals, but there you go. Most importantly, according to that thread on boardgamegeek, the rules won't be the classic HeroQuest rules! Presumably you could still get ahold of the classic rules and play that game using this game's pieces, but that's kind of a bummer. (The rules are the one part of the classic game that are clearly public domain, since you cannot copyright a set of game rules.) On the other hand they're including a whole bunch of different player cards and figures, whereas the classic game came with only four. Maybe that could be really cool, assuming they're well-designed and reasonably balanced. Personally I'm not pledging because I already have a copy of HeroQuest, but I'll be following this kickstarter just out of curiosity as to how the whole thing plays out. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Nov 27, 2013 |
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Five days left to back the Pirate World Kickstarter! Thanks to you guys RPG sourcebook for Dungeon World/ Fate Core is doing bloody awesome; we're at 400% (over £5000 raised so far!) and a huge chunk of that has come from SA referrals. The Supreme Court posted:Here's my kickstarter: Pirate World! Example art from the artists (both goons, madsketcher and Elderbean):   
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Last seven hours of the AvP kickstarter. I was totally pumped for this when it came out and it seems to have had a good response when it was play tested at the open day but I've been having reservations about it since. I'm pretty sure those will dry up when I graduate again and once again the time/money ratio inverts but we shall see. In the meantime it's time to pick up some marines!
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I'd have been all over AvP ten years, four movies, and sixty videogames ago. It looks ok but goddamn this is one saturated franchise.
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Aaaand Heroquest 25th lasted a whole 3 days, the company doing the whole thing was not communicative enough AND their stretch goals were a complete joke. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2113976860/heroquest-25th-anniversary?ref=live
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moths posted:I'd have been all over AvP ten years, four movies, and sixty videogames ago. It looks ok but goddamn this is one saturated franchise. 
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